So what are you stating Surya…why dont you just state Kareng is full of shit and cant do it! You just dont get it do you and your trying to turn it into something humiliating for me so I thank you for that Surya…I happen to be an honest person in everything I say!! …HONEST so dont you try to suggest I’m not sonny Jim Bob prawnyama chappattis mukchat
It is impossible to guess the contents in the envelope held by Yogiadam. You either have the ESP power to do it or you don’t. There is no need even attempting this experiment if you don’t have this power.
What does the new-age have to do with this? A lot. It is new-age people that go around claiming they are psychic and giving spirituality a bad name. They use exactly the same excuses as you are using here, “it’s just a guess” They justify their “psychic powers” with nonsense like whatever is occurrring within the mind is coming from the intuition.
It is serious because these charlatans then go out there and charge people huge amounts of money to tell them essentially nonsense, and in some cases psychologically damage people. They also make is much harder for serious researchers in this field such as parapsychologists, who get grouped in with these people. This is why new-agers need to take responsibility for the statements they are making.
This began as an open challenge to Yogiadam that Kareng could project in his room and prove to him her powers. So either Kareng has these powers or she doesn’t. If she doesn’t this is going to be very embarrasing for her, and in the future she is going to have to think twice before she makes such claims again.
And WHO IS ‘GUESSING?’
You are just way too serious and way to comfortable making people feel badly. I already know your response, as you are predictable, you will say truth is truth. And I will say, predictably, with truth comes responsibility. YOU are not being responsible. And that, my friend, is truth.
You see no, its not going to be embarrassing for me…it would for someone with your level of arrogance and ego…it was aimed as a game for yogi and I and anyone else to join in on…I have tried it and have got amazing results…that is my personal proof…whether I can do it like this is the test…its just so typical of you to step in and apply the crap!!
crapcrapclappatticrap lighten up Surya from Charlatan Kareng
Kareng has claimed on many occasions that she has psychic powers, that she can clairvoyantly see things, project into peoples rooms and see them etc. As much as I love Kareng, and she has been one of my few supporters on this forum, I am not going to excuse her from the seriousness of her claims. She should not make these statements if she does not have these powers. Period.
Here is a more simpler test to test Kareng’s powers. I would like her to project into my room and describe in detail what she sees. I will confirm and disconfirm accordingly.
SURYA SAYS Kareng has claimed on many occasions that she has psychic powers
No, I havnt, let me correct you… said [B][B]everyone[/B][/B] has Psychic powers and that the Ajna Chakra in particular enhances/provides it, and presents you with Astral phenomena beyond your wildest thoughts!!!
Firstly, if you got through all my posts you will see that I have only used Ajna as it should be used, in meditation…and whatever I have been presented with in the paranormal sense has not been wanted or expected or sought after by me…everything I have seen has been a presentation of what can happen when the third eye is open Surya!!! OR do you doubt that the Ajna Chakra provdes that? Where do you think you can find Ishvara? Can you describe in detail how you can find Ishvara?..I can. I have meditated with the Ajna Chakra, solely FOR 41 years of my life…do you think I have done it and discovered nothing for my practice? Do you think I have echoed lies on this site for the sake of being a liar!! or to impress people that I will never even meet!! and don’t suggest you haven’t implied it or are lessening the impact with sentences like…I love Kareng…BULLSHIT as Americans say
The thread has a joke element in its Title, my opening statement says Kareng will attempt…the whole thing is an attempt to prove to Yogiadam that these things are not a joke but real…as to whether I or anyone else who wants to try, can do it, is an unknown at this point. BUT even if I fail I know for sure that it can be done YES YES YES…
SURYA SAYS TO KARENG Here is a more simpler test to test Kareng’s powers. I would like her to project into my room and describe in detail what she sees. I will confirm and disconfirm accordingly.
see your just out to spoil what was meant to be a gentle bit of humour with a trial in remote viewing that wasn’t for just for ME to show my powers but for everyone to have a go and by doing so and hopefully prove to yogi that these things are real…I dont want to have anymore debates with you over anything. I am deeply insulted by your nasty little accusatory piss take…goodbye to you Surya and thanks for spoiling the fun for me
oh well…
Well I;m not giving up and will continue despite every comment.
will try to do x
It appears you are backtracking now on your ability to do this feat. This is good, because at least you are now being honest with yourself. I am sorry if my comments were harsh, but ultimately they helped you temper your tone a little.
To be honest I am not holding my breath that you have this ability and can pull it off. I am not saying that your experience with the Ajana chakra and your visions of your ishta deva are not true, I am simply saying I have no reason to believe you have this ability to remote view and/or project into others rooms. This has been made clear by your very violent reaction to your abilities being questioned, and your backtracking, hestitation and general excuse making in doing a demonstration of your abilities.
It was nothing personal against you. I have nothing personal against you, because I really like you. I do take claims in spirituality very seriously though. I can be lighthearted in many areas, but not when it comes to spirituality. Spirituality is serious stuff. You need to realise many researchers into spiritual sciences(parapsychology etc) have their careers riding on it, and they face scorn, ridicule and generally an uphill struggle in proving these things. This is only compounded by the huge amount of charlatans and deluded people we have in the spiritual community.
This is why I implore people who belong to this community to take spirituality more seriously and show responsiblity for the statements they are making. You are representatives for spirituality in this world, even if you do not elect to this position. You need to set good examples, not bad examples.
From a Christian perspective, it is possible that evil entities could provide special information to give people the idea they have special powers, with the purpose of leading them astray.
Haha, from a rational person’s perspective, absolute nonsense 
Well Surya, I beg you to hold your breath for as long as possible…on the matter
I require an answer to each point Surya.
1 [B]see post #1[/B]… It is your impatience in the matter that has for starters, irritated me. I have made it clear that I wanted no rush, is this true Surya?
2.[B]see post # 20 [/B]I have made it clear that I am waiting for the next full moon, hence my reason for no rush. Is that true Surya?
3.[B] See post #20[/B] I have made it clear I attempted my test on this remote viewing on the last full moon and got 5 out of 6 right. Is that true Surya?
- [B]See virtually all the posts.[/B] I have injected humour into this, everyone else has that has answered, everyone but you and this is my second irritation with you. Is it tru there is humour throughout this thread Surya?
5 [B]See post #36[/B] Joanna make it clear she understands what you fail to. Is this true Surya?
- At what points have I backtracked? And to save you typing make sure your answer isnt tripped up by 1, 2, and 3 .
I intend to take as long as I require to complete this.
If I fail, this does not make me a charlatan, it means I failed this test as have many others who are not charlatans either, I think I am brave to try this actually, considering I have only tried it on one other occasion Surya!
My ‘violence’ (in writing) as you put it, is nothing in comparison to what I would have done to you in person, which is to put you over my knee and give you a good thrashing for turning my light hearted experiment into a Surya Deva battle ground. And no use skulking there Thomas, you would get the same. I suggest you both take your hinies back to the Religion section of the forum, where you both belong.
I will not be intimidated by either of you tweenies in the world of debate…now shew shew go away you proverbial ‘pain in the buttresses’.
Thomas is right and they are telling me he is now a HINDU for practising YOGA
Foots tapping, finding it hard to get a good argument together boys!
Kareng, I don’t believe you can remote view or project into peoples homes, sorry. Your reaction has given it all away. I am going to take my leave of this thread now.
By the way the full moon stuff is simply nonsense. I have never seen a remote viewer claim they needed a full moon to remote view.
This is the first post you made on this matter:
So you would have no objection to me visiting you via the Ajna chakra?
Only with your permission, you have to trust me on that!!
I will give you my findings, Scientific experiment of course…Trousers required at all times…ha
Time needed as ill at present, contracted Glandular fever but ok
You make it sound like you have this ability. But you also make many excuses. You are ill and have glandular fever. Now, it is you require a full moon. Later it will be something else. You carry the burden of proof now to to prove you have this ability, until then I am going to just assume you don’t have it. I won’t be posting in this thread until you either confirm or disconfirm this “test”
I will get back to you for sure
For Kane and Abel i.e. Surya and Thomas:
[B]Surya says[/B]…“I am in the top 1% of the world in spiritual knowledge and that I have a far superior knowledge than the average so-called spiritual person”
[B]Kareng Says.[/B]…I bow to you oh pompous person who permeates posts with perpetual pedantic puritanical philosophical points , persecuting powerless people with paranormal propensities they pretend to posses.
Can a poor wrethched soull like me hope to have a chance?..Nay I say Nay…Evasion with illness and the full moon is the only way out.
…That the Ajna Chakra’s Yantra has a luminous full moon cradled in it’s petals is pointless to pursue and in turn, that the Kundalini ascension process of balancing the lunar/solar aspects of our nature, is but a chuckle in the chakras
…That the Ajna chakra promotes perception, ESP, remote viewing and demons with anti Roman Catholic tendencies, is a spec in the void.
…and Thomas, doubting Thomas, when the Roman Catholic sect of Christians genuflect before the cross, making the sign of the cross with their fingers; the top of the cross is always at the Ajna Chakra.
I spank you
Kareng, let’s go get a malted, leave these to ponder their seriousness.
Then we can return and ignore their silly overblown accusations as they are grounded in a complete misunderstanding of your initial reason for creating this thread and have chosen to make it a personal attack.
Turn your back on this, it deserves no attention, it is a No-thing, as a dear teacher of mine used to say.
This weekend I plan to try again, but I fear that with my way of doing this with dreams, it depended before upon one person focusing and “sending” the images or ideas out, where I’m sure Yogiadam barely thinks about what might be in that envelope! lol.
So this is more of a challenge for me, and I’m going to continue to have fun with it, not trying to prove a thing, and since it sounds like a friendly bet between you and Yogiadam, others should take it as such and leave it if they think it’s silly. 
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;41563]Kareng, I don’t believe you can remote view or project into peoples homes, sorry. Your reaction has given it all away. I am going to take my leave of this thread now.
By the way the full moon stuff is simply nonsense. I have never seen a remote viewer claim they needed a full moon to remote view.
This is the first post you made on this matter:
You make it sound like you have this ability. But you also make many excuses. You are ill and have glandular fever. Now, it is you require a full moon. Later it will be something else. You carry the burden of proof now to to prove you have this ability, until then I am going to just assume you don’t have it. I won’t be posting in this thread until you either confirm or disconfirm this “test”[/QUOTE]
Maybe she doesn’t have this ability. And maybe if she ever did, it was because she was fooled by evil entities. I don’t know why a rational person would think that’s not possible, but that all the woo woo stuff you preach is.
At any rate, you don’t have to be so mean about it.
I’d rather keep thinking about Fairies and Unicorns. Shall we?