Do you know why you chose your body?

Spirituality
#21

absolute imperfection

If this were true, you would not even be here. Stephen Hawking is looking at the macro imperfection, not at the mico perfection. Even if the spin ratios of subatomic particles was off by a degree there would be no matter. The emerging worldview in science today is called cybernetics, and that is that the entire universe is a self-organizing, self-correcting system and thus it is regulated in order to maintain a very fine balance.

Perhaps you can also ask yourself, if you could choose, what would you choose for a body/ parents/ society?

Is it perfect? Does the perfect body/ parents/ society even exist?..hummmm, I think not.

The perfect body for me would be a body that is healthy, strong and free of disease(high immunity) The perfect parents would be sages. The perfect society would be an enlightened and free society.

If I had a choice in the matter this is where I would reincarnate.

#22

[QUOTE=Sasha;38398]Surya Deva, High Wolf, this approach - dividing problems into categories and working with them separately seems not very efficient to me (though, it`s just my opinion). While you are dealing with one, other appears, you concentrate on it, third one rises, and so on.
But if we dig deeper to the root of all this problems…[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but the new problems emerging are emerging within the category itself. So you may work on the physical category of your problems, and new problems arise within the physical such as health issues. In general though this is a very efficient approach to deal with the challenges in your life because it gives you a perspective of where you are at in your life and what you need to deal with, and then it simply a case of acting. The aim is holistic development.

Thinking logically with categories, classes and subclasses is simply thinking very clearly about things. So you can approach with a clear mind.

#23

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;38490]The emerging worldview in science today is called cybernetics, and that is that the entire universe is a self-organizing, self-correcting system and thus it is regulated in order to maintain a very fine balance.te.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn’t go as far to say the universe is able to maintain a fine balance by any means. Even on this tiny planet, it’s natural elements are all over the place.

#24

I love being who I am. but I know I am not all I can be and this is my task on this earth. I was aware of this from about 9 months old. I spent many years sat under my living room table that was covered by a tablecloth, blocking out the light. My family thought I was odd, questions were raised why doesnt she join in with things going on around her? Why doesnt she talk except to answer a question like do you want a drink etc I would give minimal responses…while they thought I was :elsewhere in my mind, I was infact highly alert to all around me, never missing a thing but I never sought to correct them until I saw at about 11 that I made people uncomfortable with my odd ways so for their sakes I decided to talk and come out from under the table…thank goodness they didnt bring the men in white coats to carry me away!! However, I know that you have to look within to find out who you really and this should be done in silence with focus and simplicity.
Kind Regards Kareng

#25

[QUOTE=YogiAdam;38493]I wouldn’t go as far to say the universe is able to maintain a fine balance by any means. Even on this tiny planet, it’s natural elements are all over the place.[/QUOTE]

The truth does not depend on whether you say it does maintain a fine balance or does not. The actual proof is showing us it does. There is perfect order in the balance of seeming chaos, even if a single degree is off, matter would not exist. Similarly, the human body obeys a perfect order to maintain balance, anything being off, would be catastrophic. The stomach lining for instance is the correct material to prevent the HCL from burning a hole through out stomach.

Such perfectly evolved functions are not the result of random trial and error, because any error means catastrophe. Such functions are the result of a fine balance and regulating system.

One day you are going to have to leave the Newtonian and Darwinian era behind my friend. It is 100-200 years out of date.

#26

Are you making up your science or do you get it from magichappens.com?

#27

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;38536]One day you are going to have to leave the Newtonian and Darwinian era behind my friend. It is 100-200 years out of date.[/QUOTE]

So convenient that we have to wait 100 years+ for your BS to become science. Why don’t you just admit your full of shit. Darwinian evolution is going nowhere my dumb friend. It’s one of the greatest discoveries of our species.

#28

Yogiadam, like I said we have moved on from Darwin and Newton. When you feel ready to move onto the 21st century do not hestitate to join us.

#29

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;38550]Yogiadam, like I said we have moved on from Darwin and Newton. When you feel ready to move onto the 21st century do not hestitate to join us.[/QUOTE]

Ironically, you are using science to justify one of the oldest religions in the world. Obviously your behind the times. Two of my favorite book are The Greatest Show On Earth by Richard Dawkins and The Grand Design by Stephen Hawking. They are BRAND NEW and are the newest publications in modern science. You have NO idea of modern science. For f#ck sake, you are an advocate for the oldest religion in our history. YOU are behind the times. YOUR views are dated and irrelevant.

#30

Surya Deva maintain your calm to this.
This is a very unhealthy debate and will unsettle all that you are striving for. This is not normal.

Kind Regards Kareng

#31

[QUOTE=kareng;38555]Surya Deva maintain your calm to this.
This is a very unhealthy debate and will unsettle all that you are striving for. This is not normal.

Kind Regards Kareng[/QUOTE]

The thing I don’t understand is that your profile says you are from England. Yet you don’t seem to have a basic grasp of the english language. I struggle to understand a single point you are attempting to make.

#32

using your language is not what I am familiar with…it is abusive …I dont abuse people in writing, verbally or in thought. Go through your posts/replys and maybe you will understand

Kind Regards still adam Kareng

#33

I’ll admit that I am abusive if you illustrate where I have been abusive. Otherwise you are just accusing me for nothing.

#34

see levitation post adam

#35

Could you be specific or are you just ultra-sensitive?

#36

no it happened because someone is out of order

Kind Regards Kareng

#37

Surya Deva I have stooped to what I suggested you don’t, this makes me a hypocrite…my apologies

Kind Regards Kareng

#38

I was really interested in this thread title and I wanted to add to it too. I’ve been thinking about these things regularly as my first child is anticipated to be born in December.

But after reading yet another thread that again has little to do with the original topic, and so much to do with cursing and anger and “right fighting” and baiting and last-wording and all the rest. Goodness! And I should add my own frustration to this list, because YogiAdam and Surya Deva, you two have only been members here since July 2010 and your contributions continue to dominate thread after thread on this forum. Even with David’s efforts to help keep threads on topic, by adding a separate forum to act as a buffer for all this rough and tumble, still thread after thread is dilute and polluted in my experience and opinion.

Perhaps we could just leave it all well-assumed that at least for now, that you two do not agree on a single solitary point? And we can just leave it at that, with no more manas-flexing and baiting and coarse language on our shared forum? It is wearisome and I for one, would like to be here too, but find it more and more challenging to do so with all this biting back-and-forth, which I cannot even credit as debate or discussion, as it shares little as in common as much as I can see.

I truly do not intend any disrespect to either of you, as individuals or members here, [U]and[/U] I would like to have room to speak for myself, as an individual and a member here. And right now, that is to speak to my frustrations with regards to the repeated interactions between the two of you, and with what I see as continued thread highjacking.

I would like to make a request to each of you to please do what you can to help keep things on topic and if you would, take your back-and-forth exchanges into new threads where you can go at it as vigorously and long as you’d two like, while leaving some space for the rest of us to add to the original thread and to share with each other.

#39

Surya Deva and Yogi Adam have been confined to the religion forum for one month. They can argue there.

#40

[QUOTE=Nichole;38580]I was really interested in this thread title and I wanted to add to it too. I’ve been thinking about these things regularly as my first child is anticipated to be born in December.[/QUOTE]

Congratulations Nichole. I hope it will be as amazing an experience for you as it was for my wife and I.

Many years ago I attended a lecture on ‘painless birth’. What struck me most strongly in all three of my children’s births was the purely orgasmic experience producing apparent and broad smiles on my newborns, as if emanating from the transcending soul. In that instant they revealed the last remnants of the world that preceded them ? marvels such that the chief end of human intellect was unable to tackle. It was as if they knew a thousand thousand times more than we do (or knew something altogether different) and squirmed in the pleasure of that thought.

Maybe it was all my imagination running away with me as I were overcome with emotion. Did they choose the bodies they came in? Is it coincidence that they ‘resemble’ the names we gave them ahead of their birth?