Is the OT the most barbaric and savage scripture in the world?

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#172

[QUOTE=Indra Deva;46163]I love how none of these people who want to complain about being such victims, pointing their finger at the “Evil West” or whomever they like, never stop to think that all their troubles may be due to… [B][I]their[/I][/B] karma? :lol:[/QUOTE]

I’m hoping that they know all this and are just doing it to aggravate, a deliberate decision to appear to hate the West and Abrahamic religions when really they dont.

SD is an intelligent guy and I find it hard to believe he actually believes fully what he writes. Nietsczhe appearing to follow, word for word SD, High Wolf steps in to support them too as if they need supporting seeing as they are the instigators…and who hates the East, Hindus…not me, not you, not Flexpenguin, not Yulaw…who exactly are the East haters?

Seeing as they wont be able to answer this I am assuming its all just for effect in which case I will keep defending the West and peoples choice of religions, wherever I can.

How did the exams go SD, Nietszche? good I hope?

#173

[QUOTE=kareng;47674]Lol…P13 what are you trying to say?[/QUOTE]

no no no

PG-13

:smiley:

#174

lol…I don’t understand what all this means x

#175

[QUOTE=kareng;47741]lol…I don’t understand what all this means x[/QUOTE]

It means they think you and I are having an e-affair.

(Are we?!)

#176

[QUOTE=thomas;47743]It means they think you and I are having an e-affair.

(Are we?!)[/QUOTE

Well Thomas I’m blushing ha…What has SD done to you…lol I’ve been away, come back and I’m in an OLD TESTAMENT thread on the brink of a PG13 film with a Catholic Hindu …ha …we will have to lay low…remember its PG13 so SNietsche isn’t allowed a peek…

#177

If this were film roles Thomas…who would you pick to star as you?

#178

I smell LUST in the air! Impending PROMISCUITY! DEVIATION from the path of spirituality! DESIST now! You are falling down the WRONG PATH!

What is it with the references to Pg-13 ratings? I AM OLDER THAN 13 MEANIES!

#179

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;47750]I smell LUST in the air! Impending PROMISCUITY! DEVIATION from the path of spirituality! DESIST now! You are falling down the WRONG PATH!

What is with the references to Pg-13 ratings? I AM OLDER THAN 13 MEANIES![/QUOTE]

What you smell is the sweet musky aroma of pure unadulterated Kundalini Tantra! & yes, you aren’t old enough as your samosas haven’t dropped yet :wink:

#180

[QUOTE=kareng;47749]If this were film roles Thomas…who would you pick to star as you?[/QUOTE]

Clean him up a little, and Tom Cruise could do me justice, somewhat. Who would play your part?

#181

[QUOTE=thomas;47757]Clean him up a little, and Tom Cruise could do me justice, somewhat. Who would play your part?[/QUOTE]

Perhaps Katrina Kaif? Shes a half Indian/British Bollywood actress like Kareng. Not so great of a personality however…

Omg, I TOO AM FALLING DOWN THE WRONG PATH! Must…REsiSt…muSt…

#182

oh god save us…

#183

Well seeing as we are in the Old Testament, I’ll be Jezebel…

#184

Hey…I just wanna bring back the discussion on topic (if that’s OK with y’all…).

I recently came across some interesting sociological statistics from Australia which might be an interesting contribution to this debate. It does not deal with “Christianity being barbaric”, but rather with Christians as being, statistically significantly less cosmopolitan (here ‘tolerant towards other cultures’) than non-religious people.

In a 2008 publication two sociologists examined what determines a “cosmopolitan outlook” (they measured this as tolerance towards different ethnic groups) within an Australian population.

They sum up their results (derived from statistically significant data) as follows:

“In sum, respondents who were high on cosmopolitan practice, [B]non-religous [Christianity was the only religion they measured][/B], held a university degree and belonged to the ‘boomer’ or ‘x’ generations, were significantly more likely to hold a strong cosmopolitan outlook than respondents who recorded zero cosmopolitan practices, [B]were Christians[/B], had not achieved secondary school education, and belonged to 'the great generation”. (Phillips & Smith, 2008, p. 398, in [I]Journal of Sociology[/I] 44(4))

Comments?

#185

Hardly surprising that study indicated this. Prior to the rise of political correctness in society Christians were the most racist people on the planet and hated non-Christians. Read the views of Winston Churchill on India for example. Here is a quote, “I hate Indians, they are a beastly people with a beastly religion” If you removed the political correctness, they would be back to their old ways. Academic institutionalized racism still goes on against India. There was recently a huge controversy in California by Hindus against academic textbook representations of India and Hinduism which were high racist.

Even I encountered academic racism against Indian philosophy when studying philosophy at uni with my professor. I recently talked to a professor of Indian philosophy(who is white-Western) at Kingston college who relayed to me the massive prejudice he faces in his department against Indian philosophy and who related to and sympathized with my experience.

The way I see it is there is going to be a clash of civilisations in not too distant future. Indian vs West; Abrahamic vs Dharmic. It is the Mahabharata all over again - dark against light. This will happen because modern science itself is becoming dharmic and the remergence of Hindus on the world stage.

#186

[QUOTE=theseeker;47833]Hey…I just wanna bring back the discussion on topic (if that’s OK with y’all…).

I recently came across some interesting sociological statistics from Australia which might be an interesting contribution to this debate. It does not deal with “Christianity being barbaric”, but rather with Christians as being, statistically significantly less cosmopolitan (here ‘tolerant towards other cultures’) than non-religious people.

In a 2008 publication two sociologists examined what determines a “cosmopolitan outlook” (they measured this as tolerance towards different ethnic groups) within an Australian population.

They sum up their results (derived from statistically significant data) as follows:

“In sum, respondents who were high on cosmopolitan practice, [B]non-religous [Christianity was the only religion they measured][/B], held a university degree and belonged to the ‘boomer’ or ‘x’ generations, were significantly more likely to hold a strong cosmopolitan outlook than respondents who recorded zero cosmopolitan practices, [B]were Christians[/B], had not achieved secondary school education, and belonged to 'the great generation”. (Phillips & Smith, 2008, p. 398, in [I]Journal of Sociology[/I] 44(4))

Comments?[/QUOTE]

Well its no surprise that religion divides people…just look at SD and Nietszche posts to see that…so which category do they fall into?

#187

[QUOTE=theseeker;47833]Hey…I just wanna bring back the discussion on topic (if that’s OK with y’all…).

I recently came across some interesting sociological statistics from Australia which might be an interesting contribution to this debate. It does not deal with “Christianity being barbaric”, but rather with Christians as being, statistically significantly less cosmopolitan (here ‘tolerant towards other cultures’) than non-religious people.

In a 2008 publication two sociologists examined what determines a “cosmopolitan outlook” (they measured this as tolerance towards different ethnic groups) within an Australian population.

They sum up their results (derived from statistically significant data) as follows:

“In sum, respondents who were high on cosmopolitan practice, [B]non-religous [Christianity was the only religion they measured][/B], held a university degree and belonged to the ‘boomer’ or ‘x’ generations, were significantly more likely to hold a strong cosmopolitan outlook than respondents who recorded zero cosmopolitan practices, [B]were Christians[/B], had not achieved secondary school education, and belonged to 'the great generation”. (Phillips & Smith, 2008, p. 398, in [I]Journal of Sociology[/I] 44(4))

Comments?[/QUOTE]

considering the other factors being measured, I think that a lack of “Christianity” was a minor influence when compared to education, etc.

#188

[QUOTE=Indra Deva;47876]considering the other factors being measured, I think that a lack of “Christianity” was a minor influence when compared to education, etc.[/QUOTE]Yep, you are correct. The effect of being well educated is about 40% stronger compared to being non-religious on “cosmopolitan outlook”

It would be interesting if they had included other religions, too bad they didn’t.

#189

[QUOTE=theseeker;47833]Hey…I just wanna bring back the discussion on topic (if that’s OK with y’all…).

I recently came across some interesting sociological statistics from Australia which might be an interesting contribution to this debate. It does not deal with “Christianity being barbaric”, but rather with Christians as being, statistically significantly less cosmopolitan (here ‘tolerant towards other cultures’) than non-religious people.

In a 2008 publication two sociologists examined what determines a “cosmopolitan outlook” (they measured this as tolerance towards different ethnic groups) within an Australian population.

They sum up their results (derived from statistically significant data) as follows:

“In sum, respondents who were high on cosmopolitan practice, [B]non-religous [Christianity was the only religion they measured][/B], held a university degree and belonged to the ‘boomer’ or ‘x’ generations, were significantly more likely to hold a strong cosmopolitan outlook than respondents who recorded zero cosmopolitan practices, [B]were Christians[/B], had not achieved secondary school education, and belonged to 'the great generation”. (Phillips & Smith, 2008, p. 398, in [I]Journal of Sociology[/I] 44(4))

Comments?[/QUOTE]

Ha! This is no surprise to me.

I had a cousin who went to Australia to further his education. He told my family that he repeatedly encountered anti-Indian and Hindu sentiment from Australians. One time, he was beat up by a gang when all he was doing was just looking at some shirt he wanted to by in a mall. He said he would report such incidents to the police and they laughed, actually LAUGHED, at his “dirty brown face.”

I even heard that one politician in Australia said to Muslims that “This is a nation founded on Christian ideals. Those who don’t like it need to leave.” Even in Germany, the Chancellor said much the same thing against Muslims (yeah, Holocaust, nice Christian heritage). Anti-[insert religion other than Christianity] is everywhere in the West. Idiots like the ones on these forums think it is nice and easy everywhere. But what they really mean is that it WOULD be nice and easy if we were to grovel under the feet of the West for eternity.

#190

I can only imagine what the questions were that were asked for the Christians to come up less cosmopolitan than the rest. I know for sure that the results would have been the same if all the religions had been tested. …Were the questions morally based ones? Were they exercising a conscience orientated ?

#191

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;47882]Ha! This is no surprise to me.

I had a cousin who went to Australia to further his education. He told my family that he repeatedly encountered anti-Indian and Hindu sentiment from Australians. One time, he was beat up by a gang when all he was doing was just looking at some shirt he wanted to by in a mall. He said he would report such incidents to the police and they laugh, actually LAUGH, at his "dirty brown face."

I even heard that one politician in Australia said to Muslims that "This is a nation founded on Christian ideals. Those who don't like it need to leave." Even in Germany, the Chancellor said much the same thing against Muslims (yeah, Holocaust, nice Christian heritage). Anti-[insert religion other than Christianity] is everywhere in the West. Idiots like the ones on these forums think it is nice and easy everywhere. But what they really mean is that it WOULD be nice and easy if we were to grovel under the feet of the West for eternity.[/QUOTE]

& that's the exact same thing that you're supporting but instead in favor of Hindutva domination. You're no different.

Why can't everyone just be like me? AGNOSTIC!!!