[QUOTE=ray_killeen;80659]Perhaps the only truly sacred space one can create is in consciousness; no one can go there but you.[/QUOTE]
LAWL.
And I laugh.
You sure about that? because I’m not and - I know it’s not true.
Your thoughts are NOT sacred.
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HA.
Ha.
Hawl.
Who can invade your space?
He who, and they who, and me who.
Melchizedek, it is nice to see you post here again after some time, but after seeing the deluge of posts you have made all of a sudden in multiple threads I wanted to give you some advice. Post, because you have something to say and contribute to the thread, and not just for the sheer sake of it. All your posts in the span of the last hour have been incoherent ramblings and it makes you sound like you have some kind of mental problem. You have also for some reason best known to you brought up many references to the male genitals in several threads that were unnecessary and in rather bad taste.
I am advising you as a friend and well wisher at this stage, but I will actually start reporting your posts if you continue to behave like this. You have made some good points in the past, and I know you have a lot to contribute, so please don’t waste it in with these incoherent ramblings.
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;81208]Melchizedek, it is nice to see you post here again after some time, but after seeing the deluge of posts you have made all of a sudden in multiple threads I wanted to give you some advice. Post, because you have something to say and contribute to the thread, and not just for the sheer sake of it. All your posts in the span of the last hour have been incoherent ramblings and it makes you sound like you have some kind of mental problem. You have also for some reason best known to you brought up many references to the male genitals in several threads that were unnecessary and in rather bad taste.
I am advising you as a friend and well wisher at this stage, but I will actually start reporting your posts if you continue to behave like this. You have made some good points in the past, and I know you have a lot to contribute, so please don’t waste it in with these incoherent ramblings.[/QUOTE]
Thank you GOD.
and I will say They are only incoherent to the incoherent; poetic to the receptive, and nothing more to those in the Know.
It’s always comedy when the cave dwellers suppose to speak down to me.
Read John 3:19
Can I get a smiley winky?
Read my siggy for a refresher snoop baby.
So…the journey of today leads me right back here.
I just got the answer to your question.
I was trying to find out more about Lord Shiva by observing the Aghori Saddhus of India…yeah, I had only [I]heard[/I] about what they did…thus, I tried to forget about what they did. lulz
It shouldn’t have come as any shock when I actually [B]saw[/B] what they did and just I before it, I was like:
"Don’t tell me you are going to…don’t do that…noooo…please don’t do that…nooooo…EWWWWWW!!! GRRRROOOSSSSS !!!=/
So, it’s not so much the morality of it, but the bad taste it leaves behind.
Cheers.
That which is pure I suspect can be sacred in and of itself.
But I simply say that because I do not know if anything can be sacred without our making it so.
I take a stick. I carve it up. Wash it. Give it scent. I take it everywhere. It is my special stick.
I have a favorite pen. Its my pen. I have written great things with it. It holds power.but the power the pen holds exists within me. The pen itself dosnt have power. BUT the power within me that has been built up is associated with this pen. And so when I write with this pen. That perticular power arises. Power of association. And so. This pen is sacred.
Things can have great power in themselves. That does not make them sacred. Fire.lightning.a bomb. We may respect these things for their force. But we do not hold them sacred. 
Outside of ourselves. Is their anything sacred?
An aghori sees all as sacred for he sees Ma around every corner. An aghori takes the profane and makes it pure and sacred. An aghori is a master of internal energies. A master at taking the internal energy of disgust and repulsion and turning it into sacred and pure. To take enraged anger build it up, then flip it into intoxicating love and joy. But not all aghoris take this path. They also practice mantra. As well as avishkara. Ie mastery of self identification. To truly become another being. How? Its done through power of samadhi. Mantras purpose is to developed samadhi. To truly become a diety. With power of absorption. When only diety exists. All powers of diety exists. If I did it with the personality of a great artist. I would suddenly be able to paint great painting. Or music. If their is no power in your avishkara. No manifestation of abilities. Then your samadhi is weak.
[QUOTE=Melchizedek;81187]You sure about that? because I’m not and - I know it’s not true.
Your thoughts are NOT sacred…
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Silliness, of course the concept sacred only exist as illusion in consciousness, nothing is sacred in the domain of nature. Hence my original statement; “Perhaps the only truly sacred space one can create is in consciousness; no one can go there but you.” i.e. you are the only one who can realize the falsity.
Sacred objects can make a cool temporary tool imho.
And then, when the tool doesnt work, one can make some other object sacred.
A book, a philosophy, a statue, a woman, a meditation, a guru, a music instrument.
And then, one will ask oneself the question of this thread “Is there anything that is sacred (at all) ?”.
What to protect? Maybe indeed your consciousness, as you stated.
The answer is in the question. Sacred things are those who bear sentimental value.
You know something is sacred for you when it hurts you when that thing is hurt.
One must realize that sentiments are subjective by nature. If they blame your Teacher, and it hurts you, you have developed an attachment to your image of Her. If you really know your teacher’s worth, you don’t have to defend Her, and the bad things they bring about Her can’t ever penetrate your soul.
So yes, there are sacred things, not necessarily by their own worth but by our attachment. The clue is feeling hurt., if you feel that, be sure that your knowledge of that thing you hold sacred is still lacking.
This, if we dwell on mine versus others’ sacred thing. But there can arise situations when you really discover something sacred, not by your sentimental clinging relation to it, but by another feeling, that of being grateful. When you have found something higher, deeper, more alive, more beautiful, and you realize how much you receive from It, when you have a real epiphany of something really great, than you will not bother with naysayers. So indeed, one must carefully analyze if That Sacred Thing is sacred to me as my posession, as an attachment to an image of god, ultimately something of my creation, or it is an experienced gift of God.
So let’s settle with this: there are many sacred things, one’s we often would kill for. But the really sacred things we’d never kill for, but rather, die for, and here lies the difference.