It is not about money

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#21

Thank you for all your posts. Here is the development of the conversation:

[I]Students must decide which path they choose to travel, and then follow it. We will be here for you should you choose to be on , [B][U][U]our path with us[/U][/U][/B]
Just as students seek out the best instructors, so too do teachers seek out the most [B]loyal students[/B]. Students who wish to train usually find creative ways to make it happen.[/I]

As I stated in the original thread - [U]IT IS NOT ABOUT MONEY[/U]

It look like it is about my loyalty to the school + something else… from what I see : teachers/instructors are jealous bout me training at different place with other instructors at the same time… And this is something that is happening to me all the times…

Can anyone please explain me on the loyalty thing? Why learning from different places can harm someone?

I’m seriously not getting why it should be a problem.

#22

Well if you find a path you like, is there a need to travel many other paths?

#23

[QUOTE=justwannabe;31692]Well if you find a path you like, is there a need to travel many other paths?[/QUOTE]

well, bare wisdom is always good! Lets take an example. On YOUR YOGA path, do you want to stick to ONLY one book or/ and ONLY ONE teacher?

#24

That is tough to have a definitive answer. After years of spiritual searching or whatever, I see the value in one path followed firmly and the value in a blend of many paths. For scatterbrains, it may be best for one path, for people who are ridgid it may be best for many paths. since I am a bit of both of those, now it turns into a riddle. :slight_smile: I do have favorites in a sense, for learning straight from a book, I would take the teachings that Yogani, from AYPsite.org, has laid out. Aonther favorite book is ayurvedic home remidies for dealing with colds and such, and I like to incoperate some of the teachings of Yhogi bhagan in regards to asanas and breathing. As far as advaita I like mooji, as well as tolle, gangaji, etc…

I still could use much improvement on incorperating the teachings as I have spent much more time reading then doing, but ho well, I am here.
If I had to choose one path only, it would be the AYP approach. But I would still want to mix in a different type of asana

#25

[quote=CityMonk;31689]Can anyone please explain me on the loyalty thing? Why learning from different places can harm someone?

I’m seriously not getting why it should be a problem.[/quote]

Hi CM,

If you go to a bar and start to drink a tot of every drink on the shelf, we all know that you will have a pretty good and nasty hangover :o the next morning. Many spiritual teachers feel the same about their teachings.

Variety is good initially, it teaches discernment. But, I also think it is good to at some point select a teacher/teaching and immerse yourself in his/her teachings as it can advance you on your path. :slight_smile:

Personally I think loyalty is built by the respect people will have for my teachings and wether they need it or not. What I do expect from people studying with me is commitment to their path and to their yoga and that is something different from loyalty.

What I think needs to be discerned is wether these teachers expect loyalty or commitment from you.

#26

Thank you, Pandara,

Not quite understand your comparison of teaching to hangover, though:)

As I stated in the original post - IT IS NOT about money. I felt that I can not be so disturbed just by $$ question itself. I has to be more deeper…

And here it goes:
I trusted the person and wanted to follow, but now

DO I WANT TO LEARN FROM:

  • the one who ask people for more contribution than they [B]can give[/B]?
  • the one who claims on the website that no student will be kicked out
    because of financial reason, and at the[B] same time [/B]is telling me that if
    you do not pay - you do not come here?
  • the one who can not accept, that I’m leaning something else (totally
    different from his teaching) at different place?
  • the one who’s ego can not accept that others do things better than he
    does?

[B]Maybe I expect too much from others? World is not perfect and even wise people have pitfalls? Should I just accept it and keep going with it, learning from it…???[/B]

#27

I was thinking of that before, if it’s possible it would feel better to avoid persons that you don’t like :slight_smile:

#28

[QUOTE=Danny;31728]I was thinking of that before, if it’s possible it would feel better to avoid persons that you don’t like :)[/QUOTE]

Danny, it is impossible to avoid people who give you troubles.:slight_smile: Well, I still do not view it as trouble, since it is a great experience and have learned a lot about the world and myself.

Anyways, I got officially kicked out of the school today! Congrats, CityMOnk now it is easier to chose your path!

#29

[QUOTE=CityMonk;31727]Thank you, Pandara,

Not quite understand your comparison of teaching to hangover, though:)

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What I get from what he is saying, too many teachings can make your head spin and possibly leave you more confused then when you started. Also, you can spend much time comparing one guru to another guru, instead of learning the teachings.

#30

When I went to learn yoga, I didn’t have job or money. All I had was burning desire for self realization. I told them directly that I do not have any money but only have a desire for yoga. They replied “its the interest that is important”.
Hence I managed to pay nothing in the first level of yoga. It also proved their sincerity to yoga.
If they had said “You cannot learn without paying” I wouldn’t have learned yoga from them even If I manage to arrange some money.
But for the second level I had to pay because the teaching was done in a retreat center which they took for lease.I borrowed some money from my father.
Then also I didn’t to pay the complete amount.
That was my story.
Now I wanted to learn Holistic therapies. There are many people who teach for money. I am looking for someone who teach for the sake of teaching.

#31

[QUOTE=Brother Neil;31750] Also, you can spend much time comparing one guru to another guru, instead of learning the teachings.[/QUOTE]

Have I ever pointed that this was about guru?

#32

Yes, Amen to this!

This is my own experience in the world, and when my teachers speak of their own teachers, they also speak of their teachers’ successes, the near-misses and even sometimes shockingly violent behaviors. All of this and still there is much to learn from these “wise people” who are really just others on the path. And what is being on the path anyway, other than taking personal risks so that we may be liberated and being also willing to take a header into the nastiest of pitfalls for that same gain?

The only thing I would add is that you may–or may not–also want to stay in more consistent practice around softening your exceptions of yourself too. With practice, this helps each of us to cultivate a stable state of Yoga, as Patanjali shares with us in Sutra II:46 [I]Yoga pose is a steady and comfortable position.[/I] As this state becomes stable, each of us will be less pulled or pushed by the doings of others, allowing us to be be in the world with[U] even more compassion and open-heartedness[/U] towards others than we could without this personal stability. You and I will share a friendship in this practice :slight_smile:

Nichole