I loved this posting- and yes, I laughed, but I was full of admiration at your resolve and thankful that I could have a vicarious experience of something I’ve never heard of > I love to be educated. Thank you-it was so graphic- I won’t forget not to try it myself. I think the real benefit results in your will power magnified. Apply that resolve to something else and it will surely be yours. namaste
Hi,
Yes I have done mutra neti many times without any feeling of guilt and disgust.
In fact I drink also drink urine so I don’t find anything unusual in trying urine
for neti.
In fact I love yoga , pranayam and shudhhikriyas (vaman, Neti etc). I did Jal
Neti before. But I must say the experience of Mutra (Urine) Neti is surely
unique. From my experience I can recommend urine drops in place of nasal
drops if your nose is choked, I myself got relief of choked nose with few
drops of urine.
So about urine neti. Yes I did it and felt much better than just trying Jal
Neti. In fact I boldly say that urine is the natural choice for Neti. There
is a resaon for this.
For Neti , the yogic texts recommend lukewarm water with little bit of salk in it.
If the water is cold or very hot it will harm you. Also if you add more
salt then also your nose will be choked later. Many of you might have
experienced this. In fact, what the yogic texts are indirectly trying to say is
that because the liquid that we are going to use for Neti is going to enter
inside the nasal passage it must be felt ‘local’ by the body. Its taste and
temperature must be the same as our blood. That’s why lukewarm and little
bit of salt is recommended. You see the point. And no matter how hard you
try you can never achieve optimal amount of salt and ideal temperature by
heating the water and adding salk in it manually. It always an approximation.
But if this is not matched properly sometimes people suffer (e.g. too much
salt or too hot water). I have experienced this myself when once I did
Jal Neti with little bit of extra salt. My nose was choked. And when it comes
to urine, urine has the perfect properties of blood in terms of taste and
temperature. In fact it is naturally local to the body since the body itself
produced it. By means of having the optimal amount of salt and temperature
it is the perfect choice for Neti.
In terms of feeling also I feel very nice with urine neti than jal neti.
I have done many other experiments with urine. But this is the thread
dedicated to Neti.
Hope this helps,
Thanks & Regards
Deepak
[QUOTE=deepak_nath;21859]Hi,
Yes I have done mutra neti many times without any feeling of guilt and disgust.
In fact I drink also drink urine so I don’t find anything unusual in trying urine
for neti.
In fact I love yoga , pranayam and shudhhikriyas (vaman, Neti etc). I did Jal
Neti before. But I must say the experience of Mutra (Urine) Neti is surely
unique. From my experience I can recommend urine drops in place of nasal
drops if your nose is choked, I myself got relief of choked nose with few
drops of urine.
So about urine neti. Yes I did it and felt much better than just trying Jal
Neti. In fact I boldly say that urine is the natural choice for Neti. There
is a resaon for this.
For Neti , the yogic texts recommend lukewarm water with little bit of salk in it.
If the water is cold or very hot it will harm you. Also if you add more
salt then also your nose will be choked later. Many of you might have
experienced this. In fact, what the yogic texts are indirectly trying to say is
that because the liquid that we are going to use for Neti is going to enter
inside the nasal passage it must be felt ‘local’ by the body. Its taste and
temperature must be the same as our blood. That’s why lukewarm and little
bit of salt is recommended. You see the point. And no matter how hard you
try you can never achieve optimal amount of salt and ideal temperature by
heating the water and adding salk in it manually. It always an approximation.
But if this is not matched properly sometimes people suffer (e.g. too much
salt or too hot water). I have experienced this myself when once I did
Jal Neti with little bit of extra salt. My nose was choked. And when it comes
to urine, urine has the perfect properties of blood in terms of taste and
temperature. In fact it is naturally local to the body since the body itself
produced it. By means of having the optimal amount of salt and temperature
it is the perfect choice for Neti.
In terms of feeling also I feel very nice with urine neti than jal neti.
I have done many other experiments with urine. But this is the thread
dedicated to Neti.
Hope this helps,
Thanks & Regards
Deepak[/QUOTE]
Hello Deepak
Thanks for your input on the thread. How often have you been practicing mutra-neti? Do you maintain some kind of special diet to make this more comforting? How was your first experience with it? What are your thoughts on cathing some kind of bacterial infection when doing this?
Regards
Yalgaar
My first experience was very normal. I was used to the
neti process. It’s just that I did it with urine. I don’t
have any disgust associated with urine.
I don’t do it very often. Maybe once in a month. My nose doesnt get blocked lately due to pranayam etc. There is
no special diet tailored for Mutra Neti. Whatever diet is
part of my lifestyle is fine for this. I am purely vegetarian.
I don’t ever consume beer or any form of alcohol. I don’t
consume soft drinks. Tea and coffee very very rarely. I
never smoke.
Well it’s not the case that I am following these guidelines etc. This is my lifestyle.
Apart from this I am just like any other normal person. I eat typical indian food.
So the food guidelines are. Be pure vegetarian and non drinker. Also it’s better to avoid very spicy and junk food (I never eat such stuff). Biscuits very rarely and pizza never.
Actually if you cant follow it all then just follow 2 rules.
- pure vegetarian food
- no drinks
This is enough!
Then even if you eat junk food at times and spicy food also, your urine will still have medicinal value. It’s just
that if you want to achieve the most out of it then it’s
better to give up junk food as well.
And yes one very important thing is that you shouldnt
be taking any alopathic medicines (as it will come in
urine as well). Nutritional suppliments are fine. If you
manage the timing in such a way that urine won’t have
the medicine content then it’s fine.
Urine (Shivambu) is a great antibacterial. I have tried it
to heal wounds as well. A friend of mine had a severe
tooth pain. He used to take many painkillers but still
somehow he wouldnt get rid of it. On my suggession he
gargled his own urine for 15 mins and he was surprised
that his pain was gone. He felt much better.
Don’t worry about it. I have done all sorts of experiments
with urine and it’s great healer. You won’t catch any
bacterial infection with this.
Regards,
Deepak
Forgot to mention one more rule. Don’t ever use the urine
after any kind of physical exertion. That will have toxic
substances that body throws out during the exertion.
The most preferred urine is the urine after a sound sleep. That is even better because during the sleep certain harmones are added in urine which are beneficial for health. The night time sleep is even better for this purpose as the body produces and adds melatonin in urine during the sleep in dark. That’s why for drinking also fresh
morning urine is recommended. And it should be midstream urine.
[QUOTE=deepak_nath;21873]Forgot to mention one more rule. Don’t ever use the urine
after any kind of physical exertion. That will have toxic
substances that body throws out during the exertion.
The most preferred urine is the urine after a sound sleep. That is even better because during the sleep certain harmones are added in urine which are beneficial for health. The night time sleep is even better for this purpose as the body produces and adds melatonin in urine during the sleep in dark. That’s why for drinking also fresh
morning urine is recommended. And it should be midstream urine.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Deepak for this as well. As a matter of fact when I did urine neti, I did it after my yoga asana practice. So it is very much possible that all the exertion caused when doing the asanas might have added all the toxins in my urine to make it unpleasant experience.
My reasons for not using the urine first thing in the morning was that my nostrils are kinda blocked in the morning and they open only after some physical excercise. Any ideas how I can overcome this?
[QUOTE=yalgaar;21877]Thanks Deepak for this as well. As a matter of fact when I did urine neti, I did it after my yoga asana practice. So it is very much possible that all the exertion caused when doing the asanas might have added all the toxins in my urine to make it unpleasant experience.
My reasons for not using the urine first thing in the morning was that my nostrils are kinda blocked in the morning and they open only after some physical excercise. Any ideas how I can overcome this?[/QUOTE]
I don’t thnk exertion is a problem because in yoga we don’t exert ourselves.
The problem would happen due to heavy exercise (not yoga) just as
push ups, sit ups, or running, walking for long time, or most typically
the gym excercise. Buy not with yoga because in yogic postures there
is no exertion. And also it is wrong to do yoga with lot of exertion. Yoga
should be a relaxing activity.
One advice regarding opening your nostrils. And it will work for sure.
It is mother of neti. :-). And no need to use urine for this. When
you get up in the morning drink lot of water (lukewarm… don’t add
any salt in it if you intend to do it often). At least 5-6 glasses.
And when you reach the point when your stomach is full and you
can not drink any more then stop. Then go to bathroom and vomit
it out. It needs little practice in the beginning. It is called vaman.
Insert 2-3 middle fingers in your throat… and trying to create
strong vomitting feeling. It will easily happen because stomach is
full with water. Then all the water will suddenly come out in a
surge. You may have to do it 2-3 times at least to vomit out
all the water. For the first vomitting 80% water will come out.
The water that comes out of body during vomitting process will
bring with it all the mucus along its path. At times some hard
mucus (it could have been there for years) also may come out
if you have never done vaman before. And also mucus in skull
(sinus etc) will also come out. If there is any acid in stomach
(due to acidity in the morning) that will also come out. You
will feel very light and relaxed. Also any acidity will instantly
go away.
Vaman is much more effctive than jal neti. But people usually
get scared of this. Also the texts prohibit vaman for high
blood pressure patients. So better stick to this advice.
No matter how choked your nose is, it is guaranteed to open
it fully with vaman in couple of minutes.
If you can not follow vaman then do kapalbhati. At least
one of your nostrils may be open. So somehow do kapalbhati.
do few cycles within your capacity. With this both the
nostrils with open up. It is also very effective method.
Vaman is like holy grail of nasal blockages. And it is the only
way to cleanse your internal passage.
Regards,
Deepak
Wonderful Post deepak_nath:
I’m too into urine drinking, and have no problems drinking just about everything that I pass. I’m also doing sutra neti that I learned at Kaivalyadhama during one of my visits to Bombay, I’m sure you know where it is. I have recently been diagnosed as having Glaucoma and I’m sure sutra neti should bring more blood flow to my optic nerves. After reading your posts I’m going to start using urine for sutra neti, but I’m not a vegetarian.
All the best, keep in touchHi Pancho,
Glad to see you getting so much interested in yog. This kind of spirit is
what is keeping Yog alive today. I have heard of Kaivalyadham here
in Mumbai but never visited.
If you intend to drink urine in the morning then make sure at least you
had pure vegetarian food for the dinner a day before. So that way
at least avoid nonveg food for dinner. Maybe you can eat that for
lunch still. This way you need not give up nonveg food and still get the
benefit of urine. It is not the perfect scenario but at least it will be
better.
Best of luck,
Deepak
I have used Neti Pot, and have had great results with it. I suffer from PND (Post Nasal Drip), Which results in bad morning breath and is not very pleasant. Neti has relieved me from my symptoms. I can manage stage 3 neti, which requires you to intake water from mouth and bring it out from the nostril.
Urine is a wonderful source of nutrients, hormones, enzymes and anti-bodies. We are taught it is toxic waste so understandably people can be disgusted by it, but, more accurately it is a by product of blood filtration not waste filtration. It is like “leftovers” that are excreted, not due to toxicity but due to there being an excess.
I have used urine rubbing on my skin several times and it feels so powerful although it is a very potent cleanser! I havent tried urine neti yet but would like to, not sure im very sattvic at the moment with my diet. Usually the urine will be kept for 3-7 days before applying to skin. 
[QUOTE=anula;24841]Urine is a wonderful source of nutrients, hormones, enzymes and anti-bodies. We are taught it is toxic waste so understandably people can be disgusted by it, but, more accurately it is a by product of blood filtration not waste filtration. It is like “leftovers” that are excreted, not due to toxicity but due to there being an excess.
I have used urine rubbing on my skin several times and it feels so powerful although it is a very potent cleanser! I havent tried urine neti yet but would like to, not sure im very sattvic at the moment with my diet. Usually the urine will be kept for 3-7 days before applying to skin. [/QUOTE]
If you decide to try out urine neti, please do share your experience. I did, didn’t I? :)
By the way I am not super sattvic either. Nothing wrong in trying once.
for years, i’ve used urine for drinking, gargle, neti, skin rubbing, and fasting. mine usually smells extremely mild and, to me not the least bit unpleasant, except after eating certain foods, or when dehydrated. since it is basically a mild saline solution with an array of other nutrients using it for neti seems to me like a slightly improved version of the salt water neti.
a. the water contained in the urine has been filtered by your very own kidneys so it is guaranteed to be clean and friendly for your body - unlike tap water, and many forms of bottled water.
b. the urine emerges at the exact right temperature for internal use.
admittedly, my diet is not perfect so occasionally the urine is very strong. i drink alcohol, occasionally smoke, occasionally eat meat, garlic, etc. in my opinion, these things are not ultimately beneficial but do not in any way render the urine itself unusable.
feel free to ask any more specific questions.
sincerely,
guest