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@Yaram
It would be very helpful to hear whether you were doing Sarvangasana flat on the floor/mat or on raised props (foam or folded blankets et al) ?[/QUOTE]
I was doing it on a mat without any props. May be it is a wrong practice to do without proper support.
@hrit-padma-1:
I don’t think i was doing too much. I think a 25 year young man can do that much.
I have stopped doing yoga, Gym and heavy diet from the very first day i had the pain. How can you expect to slipped disk patient to do gym and yoga when he can barely sit, walk and bend.
On that topic I’m curious in what way or ways you’ve followed up with the ISHA? You are their “student” and therefore they are your “teacher” and there is at least some obligation to assist here. Have you consulted them?
Yes i have contacted them after the injury. I got the single reply that was “Please come to next practice correction session so that we can watch and make correction in your practice.” How can they say this to a slipped disk patient who is suffering from immense pain and can barely sit.
Thank for your suggestion, Yes i am staying away from anything that might agitate the nervous system. Is it advisable to me to do simple yoga or breathing practice to calm nervous system If yes can you please suggest me few nervous system calming yoga practice?
Step 8 of your sequence should be beneficial.
- Then sit and concentrate on breath
A mala of the Mahamrityunjaya Mantra will also help. Search the internet for pronunciation.
[QUOTE=msankhala;85996]Hello All,
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After doing yoga practice 4-5 days at home i started to have negative thought and less focused on my work. So i contacted one of Isha yoga teacher and told him the situation. He suggested to continue the practice and said in starting our body may resist so continue the practice.
… After doing this 3-4 days i started to have little pain in my lower back and my negative thoughts and less focus on work persisted. I started to feel more stressed, anxiety and fear So i contacted again the isha yoga teacher and told him the whole situation and asked him… he suggested me to continue practice and consult a doctor if i have more pain. As pain was not so much so i didn’t go to the doctor, This was my bad.
…As i continued this practice my condition started to become more worse. I was so stressed. I started to have fear about my future and started to think too much about my past. I was dying within myself, i was so less focused anything i do, I was never such. I forget to mention that i was having little gastric problem before starting the yoga practice but this was not so serious but after doing this yoga practice my gastric problem increased dramatically.
… I have random vibration in small portion of my legs several times a days in calf and thigh, sometime i feel those vibration in my shoulders, back and hands.
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I tried Bhramari Pranayama (Humming Bee Breath) for several days and it reduced the random vibration in my legs.
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Hello,
It’s been a while I’ve been on this forum. So let’s see…
What you say about those negative effects and fears coming up, is not uncommono but I have [I]never[/I] heard any yoga teachers explain this at courses. It should be explained to the students at courses that one will inevitably sooner or later experience more or less of negative emotions and extremelu turbulent mind at times. These challenging periods alternate with calm, blissful and wonderful* periods all the way until one becomes liberated (jivanmukta). People are only told about how wonderful things they get from pranayama and whatever practices but when they hit the dark period they are totally at loss, at the teeth of the fear and it can have very bad effects. People can become very distraught because of this. All this is normal but it is quite misleading from the various organisations to tell people that all they will have is peace and bliss and as people are not prepared to experience these impulses springning from their subconscious mind, they think something is very wrong.
In such a situation I would never encourage the student just to continue practice without explaining what is going on. I tell of both the wonderful periods and challenging periods right at the first course to new students.
I do not know about this particular system of yoga but whenever pranayama and shambhavi are put together, without mantras and without proper initiation, it is quite likely that some percentage of people will have prana energy problems such as these. Oh yes, my analysis based on many similar cases is that this is a pranic disharmony (note: There is actually no such thing as “kundalini syndrome”, it is all prana problems). It can only be fixed with proper mindfulness/meditation paractice in a tutelage of a competent teacher or by receiving energetic help from a specialist healer or receiving energteic help from a valid spiritual (tantra-mantra) teacher/master.
What do you mean by the vibration in legs? Describe it in more detail, please.
I do not know about this particular system of yoga but whenever pranayama and shambhavi are put together, without mantras and without proper initiation, it is quite likely that some percentage of people will have prana energy problems such as these. Oh yes, my analysis based on many similar cases is that this is a pranic disharmony (note: There is actually no such thing as “kundalini syndrome”, it is all prana problems). It can only be fixed with proper mindfulness/meditation paractice in a tutelage of a competent teacher or by receiving energetic help from a specialist healer or receiving energteic help from a valid spiritual (tantra-mantra) teacher/master.
What do you mean by the vibration in legs? Describe it in more detail, please.
Thanks @Babananda for your thought on this. Yes i came to know about the prana energy problem from some source at internet when i was searching after this problem but now i don’t remember that source. As you said it can be fixed with proper mindfulness/meditation practice. Can you please guide me on this? Can you please suggest me some meditation practice and energy healing technique or source? Currently i don’t have access to any competent teacher or specialist healer.
My mean by Vibration in legs is that after some days of injury in back i started to feel random nerve moment in my legs. My whole legs doesn’t shack but i can feel small portion of my legs have random nerve movement right under my skin. I feel that movement of nerve if i look at that portion of movement i can see something vibrating under the skin. This sensation last for 2-3 seconds. These kind of movements are very random and i can feel those in several part of my body like back, shoulder and hands. This could be Dyskinesia or any other Movement disorder.
[QUOTE=msankhala;86032]Thanks @Babananda for your thought on this. Yes i came to know about the prana energy problem from some source at internet when i was searching after this problem but now i don’t remember that source. As you said it can be fixed with proper mindfulness/meditation practice. Can you please guide me on this? Can you please suggest me some meditation practice and energy healing technique or source? Currently i don’t have access to any competent teacher or specialist healer.
My mean by Vibration in legs is that after some days of injury in back i started to feel random nerve moment in my legs. My whole legs doesn’t shack but i can feel small portion of my legs have random nerve movement right under my skin. I feel that movement of nerve if i look at that portion of movement i can see something vibrating under the skin. This sensation last for 2-3 seconds. These kind of movements are very random and i can feel those in several part of my body like back, shoulder and hands. This could be Dyskinesia or any other Movement disorder.[/QUOTE]
Hi again. Sorry I didn’t remember to check back earlier.
Where are you located? I used to do healings, also from distance myself but don’t do it anymore. I do however give some basic instructions through emailing and Skypeing. I might (or not) be able to recommend some other professionals to you who you could meet in person but it all depends where you live.
[I]If [/I]you are looking for a new teacher and teaching to follow, this is one of the many possibilites. Whether you feel attracted to it and at home with it or not, I cannot say. You can give it a try and leave it altogether if you don’t feel good about it: http://en.samadhipath.com/111
I teach mostly in person (throughtout Finland, where I live) but at this period of time I have some distance students whom I have initiated and keep meeting through Skype because otherwise they have no access to further instruction. However, I do not give initiations and pass teachings too lightly just because someone wants to without giving it proper consideration.
Based on what you say about your legs doesn’t seem to me like something too problematic.
Thanks Babananda for your interest to help and Sorry i was not able to check and respond.
Currently i am located at Bikaner, Rajasthan India. Earlier i was at Delhi and doing job and thats where i did the IE course. I don’t have access to any trained teacher it would be very helpful if you can guide me.
Yes now the problem with my legs is not much serious after doing physiotherapy and acupressure since last couple of months now its almost gone.
My pleasure.
Please reach me as I have overcome my own slipped disc issue and have helped many others come out of neck and back pain.
Hi msankhala,
Did your problem get solved? I may have a possible solution.
I did Isha and Sambhavi few years back and Ive been facing some mental problems. I don’t know exactly if the problem has been caused by this yoga.
Hi sshubh,
Thanks for your interest in helping me. Yes i have overcome from this problem. With the help of acupressure, simple yoga posture and meditation. But sometime it causes me problem. small stiffness in lowerback i still feel sometime. I have small gastric problem. It would be great if you can guide me to completely heal this.
Let me know how it goes!
Best wishes,
sshubh
Hello,
I am too suffering from exactly same issue L5-S1 herinated disc and numbeness in left foot,frequent vibration in left leg.
It is being 5 months I have taken GabaNuron, MRs, My B12 and Vit D was low so have been taking medication for that ( 1 month).
I do following excersises at home:
Bhujangasan (30 sec)
Bridge (30-40 sec)
Other exercises.
But I still can not walk without sever lower back pain and infrequent numbeness and pain in left leg.
Infact I started doing isha kriya online when I was first discovered with slip disc.
And my mental turbulence/ agitation came down.
So I was even thinking of attending full course.
And now I came across your article.I am confused whether to do it or not
Please suggest.
Hello Sphurti,
I’ll suggest don’t get into this cult of mass enlightenment. We goes for these kind of program when we believe that these kind of program will provide us some distance reward. You can learn whatever you need to learn from books and your personal experience. These kind of program create a sense of lack.
I’ll suggest do simple calming meditation. Just sit straight and focus on your breath. Your mind will wander but don’t be judgemental about that. Bring your attention back gently. Feel your inner body and stay with your awareness. Feel love for you inner child.
Do these pranayam for few days:
Bhramari (Bee breath)
Alternative nostril breathing
MAHASIR MUDRA https://mellowstorm.wordpress.com/2016/08/11/mahasir-mudra/
SAMAN MUDRA https://mellowstorm.wordpress.com/2016/06/30/mukul-mudra-samana-mudra/
Make a routine: Sleep on time and get up on time. Connect with nature. Looks at sunrise. Watch birds.
Once you start feeling improvement. start doing stretching exercise. You can watch few back pain related videos on youtube and start exercise. Have a patience, do not try to rush. You can try small exercise with Gym ball. Gym ball will help you to strengthen you core.
Read few books:
Power of Now
Four agreements
Thank you for your reply.
How is your spine now?
And as you said yes I am feeling empty these days.
Before putting faith in Isha Kriya I watched as many videos of Sadguru as possible. And found he talks much more logical than other gurus.
I being a science student and a skeptic myself have been trying to find a path or a school of thought in which I can keep my complete faith ( Afterall faith plays important role in anything you do in life).
I also started believing that Isha Kriya is The Way of Life. And I want to witness the Life Energy ( Provided it doesn’t make me abandon my family)
I thought may be this slip disc is a much needed break to contemplate on life and re arrange my priorities.
@Sphurti My spine is perfectly fine. It is now strong and flexible as it was never before. Now i can do different kind of yoga pose including headstand and complete leg split. My body is quite flexible now. All this i made by practice and by not believing in any guru.
Yes he makes lots of sense when he speaks and gain faith of all the followers then he direct that faith to some unseen god and unspoken promise of enlightenment. Once you start following him you start to look every area of your life by his eyes.
Don’t worry these bad days will pass. Don’t believe that isha kriya or isha foundation is only path. Main thing is feeling complete within self. You can get that sense of completeness by training your mind to look for good in every situation. Life is all about choices we make.
We all have lots of unconscious believes which controls our live. If you want to be aware about those believes and want to be aware about how your mind makes decision i’ll suggest read a book called “Psycho Cybernatics” by Dr. Maxwell Maltz.
Your suffering has nothing to do with eggs. I personal don’t eat egg but just telling you that it is not cause.
I get many students like you with issues developed when they try to do something new.
Normally this happens when teachers of gym or yoga are those who don’t assess their students before teaching anything or mostly they don’t know how to assess also. Students on the other side also don’t have patience to wait and watch and they want to achieve everything in short span without knowing limitation of the body.
you have got sciatica pain and you need to fix it before you try anything including your regular practice.
please refer my reply for another similar thread here:
I recently underwent the “Shambavi Mahamudra” course. I have developed a severe left lower back pain almost like stabbing and impacting the sciatic nerve. I feel very week in my left leg and severe pain while I sit or sleep. I went to several doctors to rule out any possible disease and finally ended up going to the orthopedic specialist after spending almost 2 months in chronic pain. I strongly feel that the pathangaasana is the one which puts more pressure on the lower spine which could cause the potential symptoms of as simple as a simple nerve pinch to as severe as slip disc. Seriously if I ever get diagnosed to be this, then I would surely take this up to the Isha Institute so that they don’t go around causing health issues to several other people.