Reincarnation and Eternal Life

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#5

I remember clearly as a little child that I was unfamiliar with the family and new life I was presented with.

Ive mentioned before that I used tp have an odd habit of sitting under a large living room table draped with a big table cloth, in the dark. Here I would sit quietly, meditating, until I was distracted out by luncheon or dinner etc. I was very happy doing this as I was familiar with it.

I only realised much much later that I was meditating. I also preferred silence, which was not a family trait. Sometimes I would look at my family and miss my previous existance. I should add I had/have a good family but I knew I was somewhere new.

I was born Cesarean, emergency op, the umbilical chord wrapped tightly round my neck (1950’s) and sometimes wonder now that it was a bit of a mistake that I am here! Probably a Buddhist error in the death journey!!

#6

There so much gobbldigook and non-science (non-sense) here is this religious forum, I don’t know where to start. We obviously struggle to understand things we have evidence for, like evolution, let alone things we don’t, like reincarnation. There’s so much speculation, assertion, and guess work here, it’s draining my energy.

#7

[QUOTE=kareng;39591]
I was born Cesarean, emergency op, the umbilical chord wrapped tightly round my neck (1950’s) and sometimes wonder now that it was a bit of a mistake that I am here! Probably a Buddhist error in the death journey!![/QUOTE]

Wow. Do me a favor and don’t tell me why I came out backwards (1950). :roll:
Oh well, anyway, we’re here now. :smiley:
Best regards, Gil.

#8

Ha…gilyoga…I do come out with stuff at times!!!..just slapping myself

Yogiadam…im laughing out loud…trust you to come back on this one!!! You could have at least picked something, someone else…ha…I have no defense on this one!!!

#9

[QUOTE=kareng;39776]Ha…gilyoga…I do come out with stuff at times!!!..just slapping myself

Yogiadam…im laughing out loud…trust you to come back on this one!!! You could have at least picked something, someone else…ha…I have no defense on this one!!![/QUOTE]

I wish I could pick something else, but I’m an atheist trapped in the religious forum for a month lol

#10

I don’t know. Reincarnation and eternal life doesn’t seem like much fun really if I can’t remember a damn thing about my past lives.

I guess technically we all live forever when all mass is conserved and whatever atoms and elements we are made from gets redistributed and reused.

#11

Do you really want to remember how you have raped a woman in a past incarnation? Not pleasant I can assure you!

#12

I dont remember anything of my previous life now thst I am grown up…just as sense Ive been here before and a remembrance it all looked very different to now…but nothing specific

There was/is a subtle thing, I think, of not liking to sit cross legged, I have always resented doing this…?
I remember when I was in school assembly, sitting cross legged with everyone in front of me doing the same and me not enjoying it?? I also disliked wearing socks, shoes, elasticated clothes and itchy wool or cloth…I wonder if this is any reference to a previous life somewhere.?

#13

[QUOTE=Pandara;39881]Do you really want to remember how you have raped a woman in a past incarnation? Not pleasant I can assure you![/QUOTE]

So, is it normal to be reincarnated with a completely different personality?

Now, if it were robbing banks and getting away with it…

#14

[QUOTE=Pandara;39881]Do you really want to remember how you have raped a woman in a past incarnation? Not pleasant I can assure you![/QUOTE]

Is rape a sin God won’t forgive?

At any rate, I find the idea of reincarnation to be most depressing. What good is it to have another incarnation if there is no continuity or memory? It’s the same as being an entirely new person.

Regardless, I don’t believe in it, and believe we have ONE incarnation, and one lifetime in which to choose Heaven or Hell.

#15

Thomas do you think that hell will be permanent for say a rapist?

#16

I believe there is a permanent Hell for those who die hating God.

But I also believe any sin can be forgiven, and could not claim to know who did or did not repent in their last moments of life, so could not say for certain that Hitler or anyone is in Hell.

#17

Buddhists with abilities to do this have been known to see/visit some of the different hells that exist in other dimensions…there is one account where a person is rescued from a hell by Buddhist intervention in numbers…Using specific actions

#18

[quote=FlexPenguin;39885]So, is it normal to be reincarnated with a completely different personality?

Now, if it were robbing banks and getting away with it…[/quote]

Have robbed many people in past incarnations, sorry poverty is not as pleasant in the next!

Flex, i can’t say if it is normal to reincarnate with a completely different personality everytime, what I can say is based on my experience in seeing and reliving many of my past incarnations in order to balance karmas with people I am in this life with. It seems to me that I had a different personality in each incarnation, depending on what I had to do and learn. However, I do recognise my essence as very distinct when I see myself in a vision, the same with other people, each person has a distinct essence and that stays with them from one incarnation to the next it seems. I had visions about people with me in this life where they would look completely different in another life, will be a different sex as well, but I would recognise them by their essence. Best I can describe this.

My mom always tells me that they were very worried about me when i was younger, I only started to talk at age 3 and a half and when I started one of the first things I told them apparently was that I was a train driver with my cousin between De Aar and Pretoria (a town and a city in SA) and I live now in Pretoria. I also apparently told them what I looked like etc. the more my parents told me that I wasn’t a train driver and that I don’t have a cousin old enough at that stage to be a train driver, the more I insisted that it was true. Eventually my dad told me one day to keep this to myself and to never talk about it. Since then I would keep all my visons I had about lifes to myself. Now here is the interesting fact: When I moved to Pretoria in 1991 to study here, I went to the State department that runs our train service and I asked permission to search their records and archives and I have found the records of the person I belief I was as well as his cousin’s records. It was most interesting.

For me reincarnation is a fact and very real.

#19

[quote=thomas;39887]Is rape a sin God won’t forgive?

At any rate, I find the idea of reincarnation to be most depressing. What good is it to have another incarnation if there is no continuity or memory? It’s the same as being an entirely new person.

Regardless, I don’t believe in it, and believe we have ONE incarnation, and one lifetime in which to choose Heaven or Hell.[/quote]

Thomas,

I do not belief in the fact that anything has to be forgiven by God, he would be to busy just to forgive Christians and would have no time for the rest of the world. So I belief God has created reincarnation with karma to help us and himself along the whole evolutionary process.

There is continuity of memory, it just isn’t that obvious to us. We all have glimpses of past lifes, but most people choose not to recognise those moments and glimpses.

I am not here to convince you otherwise and I merely offer this as an alternative that there are others out there with different experiences and truths.

#20

Fine, but I don’t see how you can reconcile reincarnation with your beliefs in Jesus and the Gospels. There’s nothing there to support reincarnation, and everything points to life, death, and then heaven or hell.

#21

Thomas,

I respect your view and I understand it, may I ask that you respect mine as well. To explain why I can reconcile reincarnation with my christain beliefs will take more than just this forum and I really don’t have the time to go into 20 years of experience, psychic visions, readings, books and revelations I believe to be from God about reincarnation. For me it is my TRUTH and I will account for it one day in the afterlife, I therefore have no problem to reconcile other teachings with my christian faith.

#22

Not necessarily Thomas. If you read some of the Gospels, such as the Gnostic Gospels, you do find justification for reincarnation in Christianity. It is known today that the early Christians believed in reincarnation.

#23

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;39925]Not necessarily Thomas. If you read some of the Gospels, such as the Gnostic Gospels, you do find justification for reincarnation in Christianity. It is known today that the early Christians believed in reincarnation.[/QUOTE]

The Gnositics were a heretical sect and not Christians.

Reincarnation was denounced by the early Church Fathers.

There is ZERO support for reincarnation in the New Testament.

There is overwhelming support, and is in fact an essential part of our faith, that we have one life and one body, and that our body will die, our soul will depart for Heaven or Hell, depending upon the disposition of our soul, and that at the Resurrection, we will be given new indestructable bodies.

We will be the same people we were in our earthly lives, but somehow “glorified.”

You will search in vain for anything in Catholicism or any of the Protestant Churces which demonstrate a belief in reincarnation.

A few tiny sects might believe in it and claim some association with Christianity, but they aren’t Christian.

#24

Yep, they were declared heretical by Constantine at the council of Nicea. Prior to that they were not heretical.

There is ZERO support for reincarnation in the New Testament.

This is debatable, however, depending on how you interpret it. I have seen scholars interpret reincarnation in the NT before. Moreover, the NT only includes a selection of the gospels, not all of them.

A few tiny sects might believe in it and claim some association with Christianity, but they aren’t Christian.

They would disagree.