@Scales,
If the goal of yoga is Samadhi, and all things being equal, would the person sitting in padmasana reach that goal faster than the one who is lying down?
[QUOTE=lotusgirl;58532]@Scales,
If the goal of yoga is Samadhi, and all things being equal, would the person sitting in padmasana reach that goal faster than the one who is lying down?[/QUOTE]
yes Lotus wins.
Also why do many of the shastras say
Lotus is a remover of disease?
Also Why does lotus win?
Padmasana has many benefits Scales. It is the ultimate pose for pranayam work as the spine is straight and stable. But because it is the ultimate or preferred doesn’t mean it is absolute. For most, it will never be a natural feeling pose. My thoughts are it is more important as to what is going on inside the mind, or not going on.
It is however, a pose I sit in while teaching/meditating. We continue to practice and make small strides. If it ends in padmasana, great. If not, that’s just fine too.
[QUOTE=lotusgirl;58549]Padmasana has many benefits Scales.
It is the ultimate pose for pranayam work as the spine is straight and stable.
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what does pranayama have to do with spine straight?
I’m trying to lead you on. Give me more. [B]Let it tumble around in your head.[/B] I haven’t seen the answer I’m looking for in any book. But it is available to you if you ponder it.
You list spine straight. What else? Why is spine straight important? Is spine straight what makes lotus chief?
If you don’t want to play with me. Then tell me so.
[QUOTE=The Scales;58562] Why is spine straight important? Is spine straight what makes lotus chief? [/QUOTE]
Scales, bigger brains on this forum may know why this is, but I believe that sitting in full lotus contributes to straight spine. Elongated spine leads to better energy flow(?)
[QUOTE=FlexPenguin;58571]Scales, bigger brains on this forum may know why this is, but I believe that sitting in full lotus contributes to straight spine. Elongated spine leads to better energy flow(?)[/QUOTE]
Flex it’s not really an intellectual thing - as in it would take a bigger brain to know why it (along with siddha) is chief - it’s more of an insight/understanding kind of thing.
The AHA!
A test. Tests seem popular around here recently. So it’s a little test.
If no one gets it I will explain my understanding. Which I ‘think’ will explain why it’s chief. But lets let it play out a while.
[QUOTE=The Scales;58574]If no one gets it I will explain my understanding. Which I ‘think’ will explain why it’s chief. But lets let it play out a while.[/QUOTE]
I will wait and see what develops. My toss into the ring is straight spine unkinks the knots (like a garden hose) and allows the energy to flow. The nice thing about full lotus (a posture I have been blessed with achieving easily) is that it promotes elongation and releases the tension in the muscles around the spine - in my case.
Straight spine is a misnomer as the spine is never straight, but, as you hinted above, it is the ‘feeling’ of a straight spine.
Sitting in padmasana will naturally (for the most part) keep your spine erect and stable. There is no effort once you are comfortable in the pose. Pranic energy is then able to move more freely. With the spine erect, the chest is open and the lungs are able to fully expand and take in the life force. When there is no effort from the physical body, it is easier to still the mind and be moved with the wave of no thought.
But again, it is not a necessary means.
Flex,
Notice how I slyly threw in the “erect” spine vs. “straight” spine. Good catch BTW!
Wheres buddha at?
buddha would know
“why is padmasana special?”
I thought I was buddha?
[QUOTE=FlexPenguin;58634]I thought I was buddha?[/QUOTE]
See he Appears!
I know you know the answer you sly dog.
Your just using skilfull means! Admit it.
You clicked on this thread again because you thought I was going to elaborate on the mystery of padmasana. Admit it!
In good time. Perhaps I will. AHAHA!
I’m wondering if buddha came in here to get schooled?
I say yes.
What do you think?
126 clicks and rising . . .
Pardon me while I go sniff my fragrance.
mirage,
One aspect of sitting in padmasana for longer stretches of time is to make certain that you do not sit directly with the body touching the floor. If you do this, within on average fifteen to twenty minutes, you will start to feel certain parts of the body becoming numb because the direct contact will cut off the blood circulation from flowing efficiently through one’s system. To solve this problem, one should sit on a cushion or something that can offer a protective padding. This will help the blood to circulate without obstruction, as well as assist prana to flow through one’s system.
Besides this, the more you practice sitting in padmasana is the most your body will gradually adapt to the posture. The muscles of the pelvic region as well as the heels will start to become more flexible. Since you are practicing already for 20 minutes in padmasana, start practicing in the posture for 30 minutes. Once you have practiced for enough time and you can sit in the posture more or less effortlessly without too much discomfort, increase the time to 40 minutes and do the same. Like this - gradually, you will be able to sit for hours upon hours in padmasana without too many problems.
Another factor to consider is strengthening of the spinal cord. This will happen naturally as you continue sitting in an erect posture. Otherwise, what is also of tremendous help is to practice asanas which involve bending of the spinal cord, such as dhanurasana, chakrasana, or matsyendrasana.
Ok kids here it is.
Padmasana.
Lets go over the obvious. If you can get into the pose then this is great - i would say.
Next.
[B]You are locked in rock solid - and once comfortable in it - it is sukkha.[/B]
Why is this handy? I’ll leave that blank. Can’t tell all now! But what I’m leaving out is one reason why it’s chief. and no it’s not the obvious stuff. Back straight etc…
The others?
Padma is essential in that the pranic level of the subtle body can be rapidly raised and maintained at above normal levels required for REAL YOGA!
Heres why.
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The Leg nadis! Thats right kids. Sitting on your tushy like you do in the Lotus puts the CLAMPS on the two main nadis that run through the butt cheeks and down the legs which loop around the feet and come up the inside of the leg towards the inner thigh. It’s a circuit of course! Your feet placed on your inner thighs and the weight on your tushy and back legs applies pressure on that loop - severely reducing or altogether eliminating the flow of ‘vital energy’ to the lower extremities. I.E. your legs. and If your trying to do REAL YOGA. Well thats VERY HELPFUL.
Thats why . . . (BLANK)
[B]sorry thats all I can say kids. [/B]
Remember now. Don’t use this Info to sound cool to your friends.
And no - You can not be my disciple!
Does that explanation come with a decoder ring?
Only The Scales knows the answer. He is the Decoder Ring.
The secret Nugget was in reason # 2. The Leg Nadis! Hellow. Thats good juicy info right there.
The pranic level / “or volume” is rapidly raised by the cutting off of pranic flow to the lower extremities. The Lotus pose does just that. Thats a big reason - along with being LOCKED IN - that the lotus is chief.
wut?
(my apologies to the original OP for the sideways hi-jacking of the thread).
So, choking off the leg nadi keeps the main body nadis (3 of them) working to get the kundalini off its ass and up to the crown chakra?
[QUOTE=FlexPenguin;58897](my apologies to the original OP for the sideways hi-jacking of the thread).
So, choking off the leg nadi keeps the main body nadis (3 of them) working to get the kundalini off its ass and up to the crown chakra?[/QUOTE]
no.
the key words are:
“Pranic Volume.”
Beyond what I’ve said thus far . . . i shall remain on this topic - quiet like the sphinx.
[QUOTE=The Scales;58854]
- The Leg nadis! Thats right kids. Sitting on your tushy like you do in the [B]Lotus puts the CLAMPS on the two main nadis that run through the butt cheeks[/B] and down the legs which loop around the feet and come up the inside of the leg towards the inner thigh. It’s a circuit of course! Your feet placed on your inner thighs and the weight on your tushy and back legs applies pressure on that loop - severely reducing or altogether eliminating the flow of ‘vital energy’ to the lower extremities. I.E. your legs. and If your trying to do REAL YOGA. Well thats VERY HELPFUL.
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Kind of a typo there. let me clarify . . .
Heading Down from the KINDEYS and Running through Each (OUTER) glute / butt cheek - there is one main supply nadi that traverses along the outer / under side of the leg and loops around the feet up the calf to the inner thigh and Groin. This is for each leg of course.
It is this “mainline” - lower extremity nadi (one per leg) that is effectivley “clamped” in two spots by the lotus. By sitting as you do on the tush and the feet applying pressure to the inner thigh.
Comming off the “Mainline” lower extremity nadis are other nadis that branch off and connect to STUFF.
Muscles? They got nadis to them. Every last muscle has a nadi? Eh I don’t know for sure . . . I don’t ‘think’ so…
major joints, minor joints, other places . . . Nadis everywhere!
SO one of the BIG reasons PADMASANA is so awesome is that it effectively and or SEVERELY cuts off pranic flow to the lower extremities.
Sorry if that last post there flex came off a little rude . . .