[QUOTE=wickeddeath2;69573]Im 26 right now.
I was just capable of rising IDA from the start , first i didnt know what that thing was, then after some search i jumped to conclusion. [/QUOTE]
I’m not implying it is anything else. My question was about your research. If you have never had a teacher, you must have learned to describe as the rising of Ida from somewhere. I’ve never heard of these types of experiences described in this particular way, so it is probably a description related to a specific school of yogic practice or philosophy. If you want to find answers and advice, you will have to look for people who are familiar with exactly what you are describing, and for that, it would be helpful to know where you gained your knowledge of your experience.
I just started searching online, once i got internet for the first time and started using google as a search engine. So i typed in the keywords - (so the things i felt)
Cold feeling, chill bumps.
So i was forwarded to kundalini websites. Few years later somed woman contacted me and told me that she activated kundalini, pierced her chakras, and that she kinda illuminated herself, she told me that she knew everything about me. I asked her what the cold feeling was, she told me thats IDA and that PINGAL should follow shortly after thaT, she told me that i should stop working it on it on my own, ar alse i would only damage myself in psychic way.
So one year later i did the following thing, i was kinda searching online reading some books and i did the following.
This is my old thread from the other website. So this happened 2 years ago.
I took a lying position , for astral projection attempt, i placed a amethist obelisk at location of my 3 eye. (someone told me that it may pull me out).
So i started with relaxation , deep breath in and out , in and out , in and out , after some time i got --bored-- i started concentrating on the middle of forehead (a few centimeters above the middle of eyes).
Focusing my closed eyes at 20-25 degrees above just at the center of the forehead.
(im not sure but i think i also placed ---tip of my tongue--roof of my mouth---.)?
I started taking a deep breath in and out as quickly as possible....together with Trataka...so after few min energy charge started building up trough mu body ... after like 10 min !! i stopped !!
Energy charge started moving towards 3 eye location , i started feeling/ hearing a crackiing going its way up.
( i think amethist started pooling charge up, or maybe tip of the tongue and Trataka where doing its work....) Strange feeling , force started pulling my spirit out of my body.. i got scared and stood up. I felt incredible charge trough my body.. i felt like a chick from the X man movie ( The storm xD) infront my eyes i saw i round white purple circle, just standing there it was like a guns crosshair. just standing there wherever i moved it was stil there (same with eyes clossed).
so after few min , i was abouth to give me a second go, so i did the same thing this time i didnt got
scared , after the cracking finished i started taking a normal breath in and out... after some time
i heard a strange sound ,like some kind of ring like some kind of computer sound, i realized that
human body is some kind of computer robot-biological thing...breath in and out..sssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhttttttt sound started at location of 3 eye ( i knew that there are different exit in human body thyroid gland, pineal gland , solaar plexus....)
Shhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttttttt sound started at 3 eye location... i was thinking this must be it
this is when astral body is living physical i should go with the flow, but nothing i was stil inside physical, i decided to go on , breath in breath out........ again the strange ring computer sound...
again sssshhhhhhhhhhhttttt..... nothing..... I was thinking like... this must be the amethist decharging body from energy buildup....and again 3 attempt ... breath in and out..in and out....
strange computer tone... again sssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhttttttttttttttt..... go with the flow ....
and again nothing....
I stood up .... again guns crosshair infront my eyes....
Again 3 attempt breath in ... breath out (fast ) this time no more cracking ... after some time ..
strange computer sound...shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttttt............ nothing again.... i opened my eyes closed my eyes ... there is no more black .... now its like im watching television.... im at same place with castles im flying but thats only my perseption..i still feel my physical body...
And sgain ....breath in breath out........ strange ringing computer sound ...ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhttttttt. nothing again..... so i got bored after ------12 hours practising-----.)
i give up ....its enough.. this time i was not even more concentrating on/at my breath , i just closed my eyes .....white purple spot stil with my eyes clossed.... just standing there....
and again ssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhtttt sound.... nothing.......shhhhtttttttt sound nothing....
I fell asleep.....zzzzzzzzz.....Enormous headache woke me up ... it was horrible ...whatever position i tried it was the same... ( must be from the delta frequency) after some time it stopped... i woke up in the morning white purple stil infront my eyes.....
Day by day white purple started blurring out , it was stil there but not as brite as before...
after like 3 - 4 months i started working with delta ...slowed my brainwaves ... white purple dot, started like rotaing , it reminded me of
nucleus...
its rotating (fast) , sometimes there are sparks comming out...
when i concentrate on it i feel a pressure at the roof of mouth...
in the evening its more wissible... its like purple cloud .... i think because melatonin is being released in the evening...
With all that you have been doing, are there any teachers of kundalini yoga philosophy or practice near you? There may be some who visit this board on occasion that will respond (I can’t estimate how often or when), but like that woman told you before, a live teacher would be the best source of guidance in these practices. I don’t study kundalini, so I cannot be of help. Best wishes!
[QUOTE=suryadaya;69824]With all that you have been doing, are there any teachers of kundalini yoga philosophy or practice near you? There may be some who visit this board on occasion that will respond (I can’t estimate how often or when), but like that woman told you before, a live teacher would be the best source of guidance in these practices. I don’t study kundalini, so I cannot be of help. Best wishes![/QUOTE]
And there are no kundalini teachers at place where i live. So im doing everything on my own. Im working om my chakras using some mantras from nada yoga. Working with minerals…etc. Who knows maybe intuition guides me.
My Tantra guru told me that to switch from IDA to PINGALA or PINGALA to IDA you need to lie down on the ground, head supported with your elbow on the opposite side to the one you want to switch to for about 10 min. Then the switch takes place, and you will be able to tell by which nostril you are breathing through predominantly.
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;69870]My Tantra guru told me that to switch from IDA to PINGALA or PINGALA to IDA you need to lie down on the ground, head supported with your elbow on the opposite side to the one you want to switch to for about 10 min. Then the switch takes place, and you will be able to tell by which nostril you are breathing through predominantly.[/QUOTE]
Yeah i know about things like that.
For example if you check this book .KUNDALINI YOGA
By
SRI SWAMI SIVANANDA
Your post makes me belief that you are after only ida/pingla , even a baby?s emotions lingers to that. It seems you are scared to be in The Sushmana? .
[QUOTE=bjoy;69924]Your post makes me belief that you are after only ida/pingla , even a baby’s emotions lingers to that. It seems you are scared to be in The Sushmana? .[/QUOTE]
Can you exlplain it a bit more. I dont understand what you mean.
[QUOTE=bjoy;69929]everything’s mentioned in the book you mentioned, above. #17.
I guess I ’ ’ you. No worry. Time tells us.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Nah i was thinking of rising PINGALA the same way i do with IDA.
When i rise IDA i do not think of it at all. it just happens if i want it to happen. It gets cold gets stronger.
By PINGALA nothing happens. I dont feel my body burning, getting warm, nothing. But there must be some way to meke it happen . to make it rise just by thinking of it like i do by PINGALA. Or doing some way of exercise
Maybe i should close my left nostril for longer time and see what happens. Maybe ill start feeling some warmth … because i feel that my right nostril is always closed, so IDA is constantly active and thats a big problem right ?
ida and pingala cycle energy, they technically don’t raise it.
the natural flow of energy of pingala is up, ida is down, cycling. you can, however, reverse their flow or force them both to raise energy slightly, then force it into the central channel via the chin lock or other methods, which are too numerous to list here.
anyway, it’s going to require work. you seem to be asking for the easy path: it doesn’t exist. maybe travel back in time to year 13 and ask that guy.
[QUOTE=FutureHumanDestiny;69949]ida and pingala cycle energy, they technically don’t raise it.
the natural flow of energy of pingala is up, ida is down, cycling. you can, however, reverse their flow or force them both to raise energy slightly, then force it into the central channel via the chin lock or other methods, which are too numerous to list here.
anyway, it’s going to require work. you seem to be asking for the easy path: it doesn’t exist. maybe travel back in time to year 13 and ask that guy.
-dale[/QUOTE]
The strange thing is that nobody ever mentioned the IDA symptoms… only thing i as able to find was - cold- and thats all. If you search for PINGALA you get, burning, blockage, explode, fire, heat… LOL why so ?
[QUOTE=wickeddeath2;70071]The strange thing is that nobody ever mentioned the IDA symptoms… only thing i as able to find was - cold- and thats all. If you search for PINGALA you get, burning, blockage, explode, fire, heat… LOL why so ?[/QUOTE]
those are hermetic axioms but they’re not entirely ubiquitous. in other words, different strokes for different folks especially at different levels of personal energetic development, and other stuff.
google: “the human body as clairvoyant witnessed” and you’ll find more than you asked for. if you’re into that sort of thing. i’m not.
[QUOTE=FutureHumanDestiny;70076]those are hermetic axioms but they’re not entirely ubiquitous. in other words, different strokes for different folks especially at different levels of personal energetic development, and other stuff.
google: “the human body as clairvoyant witnessed” and you’ll find more than you asked for. if you’re into that sort of thing. i’m not.
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