Pawel,
I think the main reason for our differences is because we are operating from different linguistic and cultural maps. For example when you use the word “modern” you mean it in the sense of a linear growth in knowledge and material science from ancient times to modern. When I say “modern” I mean it in terms of a certain extent of knowledge and material development.
What I am presenting to you here is that when you use the word “modern” you are only referring to Western history. It begins at the Greeks around 500BCE, then from 1AD to 10AD it continues with the Romans and arabs and then around the 17th century there is an age of science and reason and the modern age begins. Then Europe develops industry and spreads around the world and establishes colonies.
The Eastern timeline is different. It begins 10,000 years ago in the Indian subcontinent. The Vedas appear at the latest around 6000BCE and this is roughly when the Eastern age of science and reason begins(I personally think it vastly older, but I am going to stick with conservative dates) By 3000-2000BCE a very modern civilisation is already in place called the Indus valley civilisation. It is at a level comparable to 19-20th century civilisation in many areas. At this point there are well established systems of philosophy, medicine, spirituality and industry. There is also clear evidence of the rapid expansion of this civilisation around the world setting up many colonies around the world.
There is not just some fantay of Hindus it is clearly evident if we compare history of the East with the history of the West. The East has sanitation, planned cities and plumbing in 3000BCE; in the West it appears in 18th century. The East have scientific systems of medicine and have already have a vast database of diseases and medicine listing 1200 diseases, 300 surgical procedures, 125 surgical instruments in 2000BCE there is nothing comparable in the West till the 19th century and onwards.
The East have developed formal language, binary numbers and hashing systems and error checking systems in 2000BCE, there is nothing comparable in the West till the 20th century.
Note: I am revising some of these dates by 1000 years due to Aryan invasion theory giving too late dates.
So you cannot just clump Eastern history and Western history together. It is very clear Eastern civilisation is many times more older and had reached key developmental stages much earlier than the West did. Now as I said, the extent to what level of development they reached in positive sciences is very controversial, because we cannot overlook the fact that Eastern texts mention very advanced technlogy existing in those times.
The fact of the matter is we cannot deny these references. There are ancient Sanskrit texts talking about aeronautics. The Charaka Samhita gives extensive descriptions of microbes and says they are seen with instruments. There is an ancient and very much real text stored at the Oriental library in India that gives explicit instructions on how to build a spectrometer, which has been built and documented in a peer-reviewed journal. I gave you a link to the artice and you did not even give it a fair hearing.
The Mahabharata gives descriptions of weapons of mass destruction, missiles, fighter planes. A Sanskrit text which mentions an ancient analog computer to calculate orbits of planets(which also mentions ancient aeroplanes, their propulsion systems and gives flight navigation guidelines) has recenty been discovered in a fluke accident in Greece. The level of engineering technology is comparable to 18th century engineering.
The sum of the archeological evidence and the scientific knowledge we find in the East is pointing to ancient modernity. They had reached modern levels of development thousands of years earlier. In other words words the linear model of development is wrong. The evidence is showing cyclic development. The rise and fall of very advanced civilisations that reach certain levels of development and then die out.
Suffice it to say East and West diverge on everything. They are incommensurabe. But one thing is very clear. The West is a young civilisation compared to the East. We are your elders in terms of civilisation and to a very large extent your teachers as well. We pretty much started you up via the Greeks and since that time you have constantly looked back at us for further development. Look at how steel was developed in the West in the 18the century, it was revere-engineered by examining Hindu steel. Look at how linguistics was developed in the 20th century; it was reverse engineered by studying Sanskrit. Look at the deveopment of psychology and modern philosophy it does not take off until Sanskrit texts starting pouring into Europe.
As I said before, and I say this with the utmost humility, you have a lot to learn from us. We are your grandfather in terms of wisdom, knowledge and experience accumulated. Study our Vedanta, Yoga, Ayurveda, Ragas and Sanskrit and advanced yourself further, but don’t pretend you are more developed, because you are not.
