I’m afraid you are confusing quite a lot of things talking about physical image of the world. E.g. claiming that according to quantum mechanics world is not composed from electrons, protons etc. – if you will peek into quantum mechanics books you will find such terms as wave function OF ELECTRON, or wave function OF PROTON. World is not just a soup of wave functions. It is at one level a collection of particles which can be described by wave functions.
Second is the image you present in which e.g. Newtonian physics and General Theory of Relativity are contradictory and somehow fighting with each other.
I am afraid you have a romantic and emotional view of science as everybody getting on and there being a universal concensus and a uniform development. Unfortunately, it is unrealistic. Einstein hated quantum mechanics and he put a lot of energy into showing it was illogical. I have read the works by renowned academics of philosophy of science such as Karl Popper and Thomas Kuhn and even they agree there are several schisms in science today. It not a happy little world where everybody agrees with each other.
The quantum mechnical description of the world and classical physical description of the world are not commensurable no matter how much you assert they are. Einstein showed this himself with the EPR problem that quantum mechanics violates the laws of classical physics. There is no duality at the quantum level everything is modelled as a wavefunction and is superpositioned. This has to first collapse before we have particles. It has now been experimentally proven that this collapse only takes place on observation(I provided a reference earlier)
The reason a quantum mechanics book talks about the wavefunction of an electron or a proton is because the electron and proton is at the quantum level a wavefunction. You do not seemt to understand this EITHER OR business. Something is EITHER a wave OR a particle. It is not both at the same time. This is why when we measure for a particle we find a particle and when we measure for a wave we find a wave. These are mutually opposing properties. It’s just like saying water is either solid or liquid but not solid and liquid at the same time. These are mutually opposes states of matter. To say they are both solid and liquid is saying that something can have contradictory properties and that is completely illogical.
How do you know it is prana then? I still fail to understand your confidence that your method is scientific while making such great jumps – from a physical sensation to a concept of entity from another plane.
Also, how can you reconcile categorical statement that prana is not in space and time while talking about precise prana FLOW (which is by definition a phenomena in space and time) and ability of seeing its distribution in body. How can you see prana flowing if it doesn’t exist in space-time?
I know it is prana because intentional impulses originating from mind cannot be measured but without that intentional impulse nothing would function. The body could not be held together without the intelligent functioning of the prana. Hence why when the prana withdraws from the body it decomposes immediately.
Can we measure the quantum virtual particles? No, because they are not physical. We can only measure them when they become manifest and then we only measure the effects of them. We cannot measure non-physical things. Now, experiencing something does not mean it is physical. I can experience thoughts as well does that mean thoughts are taking place in space-time? If that is that case measure my thoughts
It is clear logically that mind is in another plane of reality. It is non-local. If it was local you would be able to measure minds.
The pranic flows are not taking place within space time because they nothing more than a dynamic underlying physical reality which is mutually in relation with everything else at once at the same time in the universe. Again just as quantum physics shows. Quantum and prana are the same things.
You are really trying very hard to interpret the quantum world with physical descriptions like space-time but do not realise the quantum physics completely opposes space-time. It denies it exists and shows nothing exists separely but is composed of a web of mutual set of relationships.
Here is a quote from a renowned quantum physicist:
An elementary particle is not an independently existing analyzable entity. It is, in essence, a set of relationships that reach outward to other things.(H.P.Stapp)
Similarly prana does not work in isolation but it works in relation with the entire dynamics of the univese and is entangled with everything at once in the universe, such that an event happening in another galaxy will cause the prana to resolve in our own system.
I don’t agree at all. It’s not just about magnitude of this response. It’s mainly about properties of those responses. There is no smooth transition there. In dream world you can’t do consistent physical measurements. Content of the dream world fails consistency check – one of the ways to recognize if you are awake or dreaming/hallucinating.
You can’t do consistent physical measurements with quantum objects either. Come on I know you about the uncertainty principle. In fact the dream world then is a much more accurate description of reality because it matches the characteristics of the quantum world which is chaotic.
In any case you are commiting a fallacy here of naive realism. So the senses show us the world is consistent, physical and solid. The senses also show us the sun is going around the earth, the earth is flat and unmoving, the sky is blue, objects bend in water and motion is continious. We know all of this is wrong. So the sensory representation is unreliable. If we look at the scientific representation than we know it is not consistent, solid and physical at all. So clearly the sensory view of reality is not real.
In dream we see reality for what it really is: not consistent, physical and solid. More like a liquid: liquid reality.
If I read a book and give it to someone else, this person will read the same letters and words., see the same drawings. Even without interpretation a raw description of the lines in drawings will be consistent. It doesn’t happen in dream world (not mentioning that people who we meet in dream world somehow do not remember such encounter).
True, but again you are appealing to arguments of naive realism. Yes the senses show us a book with consistent letters, words and drawings, but that is not what it really is.
We know this categorically from modern science. The sensory view of reality is fundamentally at odds with the scientific view of reality. It still seems very clear to my senses the sun is going around the earth and the earth is not moving. Do you accept this? If not, then why do you accept it is physical?
Thanks for a link. Interesting idea. I checked the progress and it seems it doesn’t work at all (such as all previous attempts to find source of infinite energy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion) but I wish inventors best of luck. If they succeed, it will be end of the world as we know it! With infinite energy we could even use the whole Earth as a spaceship and explore universe. That would be cool.
There is no doubt at all the vacuum is teeming with energy. All that need to do is find ways of extracting it. So theoretically it is very much possible, it is just a matter of developing a technology that can do that. We already can work with quantum forces as we have demonstrated with quantum teleportation, quantum levitation, quantum computers and quantum cryptology. So I have no doubt we will be able to create quantum receivers for catching vacuum energy. If the yogis can utilize quantum forces then why can’t scientists?
Some of the methods used in Hindu science to attract quantum energy is using certain crystals and gem stones, certain geometries(like pyramids) and certain metals like mecury, gold and copper which are good pranic receivers.
I have some questions for you now:
Why does a tesla coil generate more higher frequency and higher voltage electricity than a normal coil?
How do you explain the phenomena of sonoluminesence where sound energy turns into light enegy when it vibrates a bubble?