[QUOTE=Hubert;29271]The question is not who is right.
The question is: would we have a better world if yoga did not exist ? Would we have a better world if christianity did not exist ?
Whenever we question the right to exist of something, we actually question the purpose behind it, and usually we fail to realize that purpose.
Basicly, that means that we put our human judgement above a higher judgement, our human reason above a higher reason. Of course, we have the right to do that, but than we instantly lost the right to call ourself spiritual, because we betray our inability to imagine anything higher, better than we are. Those who judge (anything !) can’t call themselves religious, or spiritual disciples. Wheter we are are vegan and have a yogamat, or we pray at the Sunday church, until we judge, we are hypocrits.[/QUOTE]
There is no doubt what-so-ever that the world would be better without Christianity. More evil has been justified in the name of Christianity than pretty much all other religions and wars combined.
Jesus was an interesting character for sure, but the church he left on this planet is an abomination. Perhaps it does have it’s place for the hard core materialist that needs some way into the spirituality even if it is edge wise.
Most christians have not read the bible and have no idea what sorts of things their god commands. Here are a few examples of God condoning murder.
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12)
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17)
“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 )
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27)
A priest’s daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9)
here’s a few verses from the new testament justifying slavery.
Luke 12:45-48: “The lord [owner] of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers. And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.”
Matthew 18:25: “But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.”
Colossians 4:1: “Masters, give unto your servants that which is just and equal; knowing that ye also have a Master in heaven.”
Timothy 6:1-3 “Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed. And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort. If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;”
My problem with all abrahamic religions is they have replaced true spiritual seeking with dogma. Sure hindu texts also have quite a bit of violence in them, but then most hindu’s haven’t forgotten the importance of direct experience and not just dogam. Christians need to do what ever it takes to get real spritual practices back into their religion or it will continue to loose favor with people as time goes on.
I have nothing against peaceful cristians at all, but their Holy book is witten such that any act of violence may be justified with those who have a different view of the world than them. So I accept Christians but completely reject their Holy Bible.
-I was raised southern Baptists and it was a very hard, long process for me to break free. But I found God despite that upbrining…however, it was a long haul for me. I went through a lot of very dark years as I ‘defied’ God and started questioning.
My sincere wish is that all Christians find away to restore the real teachings of Jesus.
