Advice needed on sore groin

Hi Guys,
Newbie here again. I’ve been practicing the cobbler pose to help open me up somewhat. Whilst I don’t overdo it, I am finding it hard to walk a little afterwards with sore groin. I just need to keep practicing as I can feel it getting better.

Is there some kind of other stretches I can do afterwards to help alleviate the mild pain. The more I do this pose the more I am feeling comfortable sitting like this. Just hurts a little after I get up is all.

I think inefficient warmup resulted this…just do warmups and pains are gone…

Hi Dave,

Your post here is akin to saying “my car goes kathunk, what’s wrong with it?”.

Without a verbal picture, painted by you, there’s simply no way to know what in the blazes you are doing (or not doing) relative to Baddha Konasana (Cobbler’s) or any other posture.

If you’d care to expound on the doing someone might be able to catch what’s going on. The more comprehensive your sharing - without being verbose, the easier the task here on the other end of the wire.

gordon

Hi Gordon,

Thanks…I struggle to understand some of your words as it is Gordon. I goggled Verbose and now feel as if I waffle on too much. I have learning disability as well. (working on it)

I have sore groin…was after some stretches…Google helped me there as well.

I don’t think I could get any more comprehensive. particularly without being verbose…LOL

Take care
PS…Thx ramkishore…I am honored that I was your fisrt post :wink:

I’ll warm up…good point.

I have a hard time understanding me too Dave:-)
Thus far I’ve not found you to prattle on.

So here’s what I’d like to know.
Are you sitting in the middle of the floor or with your back to a wall?
Are you placing OR pressing the soles of the feet into each other?
If you are, are you appropriately avoiding that pressing with the toes and the big arches, BUT doing it with the toe mounds and the inner and outer heels?
Is your lower back rounding when in the pose (look, feel, ask a bystander)?
How close are your heels to your pubic bone or pelvis AND how far from the floor are your outer knees?

gordon

[QUOTE=InnerAthlete;44904]I have a hard time understanding me too Dave:-)
Thus far I’ve not found you to prattle on.

So here’s what I’d like to know.
Are you sitting in the middle of the floor or with your back to a wall?
Are you placing OR pressing the soles of the feet into each other?
If you are, are you appropriately avoiding that pressing with the toes and the big arches, BUT doing it with the toe mounds and the inner and outer heels?
Is your lower back rounding when in the pose (look, feel, ask a bystander)?
How close are your heels to your pubic bone or pelvis AND how far from the floor are your outer knees?

gordon[/QUOTE]

These are great questions! I would also maybe feel around the sore area with your hand. Notice if there are tender spots or lumps. Often when we over stretch a bit our muscles tends to tighten up and sometimes cause these sort of “knots”. If you do notice, try carefully rubbing them out or getting a massage. It can help a lot!

sounds like good advice Samantha…I’ll check that out later. Gordan…Thank You for your patients…I have to run now is all…but will take time to answer those questions later. Just wanted to say thanks. Back later.

I've just been flat out Guys...So it was tens times easier just to do a quick video response...hope you don't mind.

My apologies for poor sound quality...its just an OLD shoot and go camera...you may have to turn up your volume all the way?

I've kind of been a little slack with my yoga practice. The course I have been following has like 22 poses in it and takes like over an hours, not counting the relaxation cool down which is another 20 minutes. I'm just trying to make this cobbler pose something I do more often with a little meditating on it as I learn it. I'll do the major "Beginners Session" when I get more time & hopefully make it routine like my treadmill and weight sessions.
Here is the link to the Free Online Sessions I have been attempting. I have NO money to invest at this point and have also downloaded the Free DVD with those poses. Seems like a good deal to me.

Thanks for your help thus far...Everyone :wink:

Yes, Your inner thigh area is pretty tight. Your hips need to be higher. Try sitting on a few yoga blankets or a zafu or something. Something high enough (and firm) that your hips are level or almost level with your knees. It will help you get your back straighter in the pose. Also, be patient and relax. If you force it too much, my expereince is that you will tighten more. As you relax, and your hips are higher you can fold forward but, keep in mind that your should be mindful of your lower back.
Sit in the pose and concentrate on relaxing the areas that feel tight with your mind and breath.

I also think your hips might be tight as well. trying doing a modified version of pigeon. Lay on your back and put the right ankle on the the left knee (both knees are bent). Press the right knee away from you. Hold the pose for a bit. Switch and do the other side.

Lastly, if you are having any sort of pain, feel around the groin area and notice tender spots and rub them. Take it easy, I know from expereince not to ignore pain. It is your teacher.

Much appreciated Samantha…I’ll update you to my progress as I start trying what you say.

Hi Dave,

Fantastic video. Thank you for posting it. I love the bravery reflected in the action.

Since you are wearing black (socks), and black is so effective at concealing, I cannot see the action in the feet and this is one of three reasons we advocate students avoid black clothing for their practice. So I can’t speak to that part of the pose.

Otherwise…

This looks “okay” to me. Nothing alarms me and to me it looks like you’ve got more opening than many men have in the beginning of their practice. Please do remain at the wall (for now) OR take a folded blanket and sit on the very front edge of it (to tip the pelvis forward). Also please move the shoulder blades down toward the floor (behind you) AND lift the space between the navel and the pubic bone up toward the heart center but not in toward the spine.

The feeling in the groins is likely to be expected working this pose. Eat well, rest well, and make certain you are addressing any lingering “issues” that might be making their home in the muscle fibers of the pelvis.

gordon

Hi Guys,
I don’t mean to keep bumping this post as I understand the importance of everyone else’s.
Thank you for your kind words Gordon. I have taken on board much of what you and Samantha has said & I have to say…MILES of improvement felt already!

I got off my treadmill after a good solid half hour of interval training…I seated my sitting bones on some small square boards with a towel folded into a square…My ankles came in much closer to my pelvis and I felt it much easier to breath whilst sitting up straight against my make shift bench pictured in Vid. I really enjoyed being able to breath and sit in this position without hurting. I tried a little leaning forward, but just relished sitting so and enjoying my recovery off the treadmill.

I’ll leave things for a couple of days or so & will update my progress then. Thanks again guys…I can see how this forum is going to be very helpful to me now.

Peace to you all;)

Is there any Beginners routine or a small number of poses you could recommend that I try. I ask this as I have been unable to find an hour + “at this point” in my time shedual to meet the program I downloaded previously.

As you know I am currently practicing cobble pose at various intervals here and there. Could you recommend something around this that maybe I could spend 30minutes on 4 times a week. I thought it best to at half the time than not do any at all.

I guess at this point I only want to “balance” out my running and weight routines, not to mention eventually work my way into the lotus position…if I can stick at it for a few years. Either way…for now I need to find something that is more realistic to practice for around 30 minutes a day and see where that leads.

Perhaps you could just name a few poses to get me started…1-5 kind of thing…remembering my hips and thighs need work?

Thanks guys.

I can’t meet your goals as running works flexion and extension of the hips at the expense of the other movements thereby creating a fertile ground for imbalance in the joint.

However I can give you 1-7, bearing in mind of course that Baddha Konasana (cobbler’s) is a pose for preparing the body for asana.

Classical Surya Namaskar
Trikonasana
Supta Padangusthasana
Parsva Supta Padangusthasana
Parivrrta Supta Padangusthasana
Ardha Matseyendrasana
Savasana

Thanks for the encouragement there Gordon. The benefits of running most definitely outweigh any imbalance you refer to. I’ll take that bit of information and do a search on Running & Yoga to find out exactly what I should expect from the practice.

Thanks for the direction.
Time for me to pick some carrots, Beets and spinach from the garden outside and put them in the cold press so I can work on my flexion issues :stuck_out_tongue:

Now you can teach me. Elaborate on this please:

The benefits of running most definitely outweigh any imbalance you refer to

Hi Gordon…my internet is down therefore have not been on for some time…just using my phone now…sorry for the irrelevant information…LOL…just kidding.

I don’t think I could ever teach you anything. I get to confused as it is. I simply meant I wont be stopping my running in order to find a better sitting position in yoga.

I hope that makes better sense, because there really is nothing further to it?

Hi Dave,
Check this out for ashtanga primary.