Kareng, you either can remote view or you cannot.
You started out by claiming you can demonstrate this, and now you either have to confirm and disconfirm that you can do this.
Nobody should ever claim to have an ability they do not have. It is not fair to those who do genuinely have these abilities.
okay Joanna I see your point…you see I am waiting for the full moon as it increases the ability so I haven’t tried it yet…full moon 21st November at 17.30…However just because of your point I will have a go tonight and put my findings on here . I got a 5 out of 6 accuracy with the full moon. So because I didnt want to get it wrong I thought i’d wait.
(I can see I didn’t think this out time wise:D)
And yes yogiadam can confirm whether right or wrong and we can have another go if wrong. (could have done with your views at beginning to help)xx
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;41452]Kareng, you either can remote view or you cannot.
You started out by claiming you can demonstrate this, and now you either have to confirm and disconfirm that you can do this.
Nobody should ever claim to have an ability they do not have. It is not fair to those who do genuinely have these abilities.[/QUOTE]
Okay Surya…relax I will have a go…I did express, if you read earlier that there wasn’t a rush, and expressed the full moon details, but I see the point.
Dont worry Surya I do have the ability or else I wouldn’t be foolish enough to set it up. I didn’t want to get it wrong and you of all people should know the relevance of the full moon in this.
I am quite prepared to get it wrong an announce it. My ego is not that important Surya. xx But Yogiadam must be proved wrong 
[B]In LOWER CASE its gzpf[/B]
lol Kareng, I completely understand now. If you like we could try again near the full moon, or just wait until after then (but I will be on vacation at Disneyworld so can’t promise anything!) if Yogiadam is game. Whatever you want to do! Now I see your purpose, so lets see if you can prove your point to him! And thanks for including us. 
hi joanna thats very gracious of you…actually I’m having a go tonight and tomorrow…see if I can beam in on target…doesn’t matter if wrong…,iyogiadam will just say no and I can try again…simple hey…so I will try …you do same if you have time to …ok
I keep getting same shapes…don’t want to influence you …will put my findings on here tomorrow. xxx
@Sd,
Don’t be such a party pooper. While this is Kaneng and YogiAdam’s experiment, it is meant to also be fun. Don’t be a spoiler please.
Thanks.
Yogiadam and Kareng have agreed on an experiment to attempt to prove the validity of Remote Viewing.
It’s serious business, not a party 
There are so many bad psychics today who give good psychics a bad name. It is pretty reasonable to state that only say you have psychic powers if you have them, and not just because you believe you have them.
I am afraid people in the new-age communtiy are going to have to take some responsibility if they want spirituality to be taken seriously in the world.
Are they having a party?
And pray tell, what does the new age community have to do with all this?
Yes, this can be a serious experiment, but it can also be fun for those to try and to participate. Are you always so very serious SD?
So what are you stating Surya…why dont you just state Kareng is full of shit and cant do it! You just dont get it do you and your trying to turn it into something humiliating for me so I thank you for that Surya…I happen to be an honest person in everything I say!! …HONEST so dont you try to suggest I’m not sonny Jim Bob prawnyama chappattis mukchat
It is impossible to guess the contents in the envelope held by Yogiadam. You either have the ESP power to do it or you don’t. There is no need even attempting this experiment if you don’t have this power.
What does the new-age have to do with this? A lot. It is new-age people that go around claiming they are psychic and giving spirituality a bad name. They use exactly the same excuses as you are using here, “it’s just a guess” They justify their “psychic powers” with nonsense like whatever is occurrring within the mind is coming from the intuition.
It is serious because these charlatans then go out there and charge people huge amounts of money to tell them essentially nonsense, and in some cases psychologically damage people. They also make is much harder for serious researchers in this field such as parapsychologists, who get grouped in with these people. This is why new-agers need to take responsibility for the statements they are making.
This began as an open challenge to Yogiadam that Kareng could project in his room and prove to him her powers. So either Kareng has these powers or she doesn’t. If she doesn’t this is going to be very embarrasing for her, and in the future she is going to have to think twice before she makes such claims again.
And WHO IS ‘GUESSING?’
You are just way too serious and way to comfortable making people feel badly. I already know your response, as you are predictable, you will say truth is truth. And I will say, predictably, with truth comes responsibility. YOU are not being responsible. And that, my friend, is truth.
You see no, its not going to be embarrassing for me…it would for someone with your level of arrogance and ego…it was aimed as a game for yogi and I and anyone else to join in on…I have tried it and have got amazing results…that is my personal proof…whether I can do it like this is the test…its just so typical of you to step in and apply the crap!!
crapcrapclappatticrap lighten up Surya from Charlatan Kareng
Kareng has claimed on many occasions that she has psychic powers, that she can clairvoyantly see things, project into peoples rooms and see them etc. As much as I love Kareng, and she has been one of my few supporters on this forum, I am not going to excuse her from the seriousness of her claims. She should not make these statements if she does not have these powers. Period.
Here is a more simpler test to test Kareng’s powers. I would like her to project into my room and describe in detail what she sees. I will confirm and disconfirm accordingly.
SURYA SAYS Kareng has claimed on many occasions that she has psychic powers
No, I havnt, let me correct you… said [B][B]everyone[/B][/B] has Psychic powers and that the Ajna Chakra in particular enhances/provides it, and presents you with Astral phenomena beyond your wildest thoughts!!!
Firstly, if you got through all my posts you will see that I have only used Ajna as it should be used, in meditation…and whatever I have been presented with in the paranormal sense has not been wanted or expected or sought after by me…everything I have seen has been a presentation of what can happen when the third eye is open Surya!!! OR do you doubt that the Ajna Chakra provdes that? Where do you think you can find Ishvara? Can you describe in detail how you can find Ishvara?..I can. I have meditated with the Ajna Chakra, solely FOR 41 years of my life…do you think I have done it and discovered nothing for my practice? Do you think I have echoed lies on this site for the sake of being a liar!! or to impress people that I will never even meet!! and don’t suggest you haven’t implied it or are lessening the impact with sentences like…I love Kareng…BULLSHIT as Americans say
The thread has a joke element in its Title, my opening statement says Kareng will attempt…the whole thing is an attempt to prove to Yogiadam that these things are not a joke but real…as to whether I or anyone else who wants to try, can do it, is an unknown at this point. BUT even if I fail I know for sure that it can be done YES YES YES…
SURYA SAYS TO KARENG Here is a more simpler test to test Kareng’s powers. I would like her to project into my room and describe in detail what she sees. I will confirm and disconfirm accordingly.
see your just out to spoil what was meant to be a gentle bit of humour with a trial in remote viewing that wasn’t for just for ME to show my powers but for everyone to have a go and by doing so and hopefully prove to yogi that these things are real…I dont want to have anymore debates with you over anything. I am deeply insulted by your nasty little accusatory piss take…goodbye to you Surya and thanks for spoiling the fun for me
oh well…
Well I;m not giving up and will continue despite every comment.
will try to do x
It appears you are backtracking now on your ability to do this feat. This is good, because at least you are now being honest with yourself. I am sorry if my comments were harsh, but ultimately they helped you temper your tone a little.
To be honest I am not holding my breath that you have this ability and can pull it off. I am not saying that your experience with the Ajana chakra and your visions of your ishta deva are not true, I am simply saying I have no reason to believe you have this ability to remote view and/or project into others rooms. This has been made clear by your very violent reaction to your abilities being questioned, and your backtracking, hestitation and general excuse making in doing a demonstration of your abilities.
It was nothing personal against you. I have nothing personal against you, because I really like you. I do take claims in spirituality very seriously though. I can be lighthearted in many areas, but not when it comes to spirituality. Spirituality is serious stuff. You need to realise many researchers into spiritual sciences(parapsychology etc) have their careers riding on it, and they face scorn, ridicule and generally an uphill struggle in proving these things. This is only compounded by the huge amount of charlatans and deluded people we have in the spiritual community.
This is why I implore people who belong to this community to take spirituality more seriously and show responsiblity for the statements they are making. You are representatives for spirituality in this world, even if you do not elect to this position. You need to set good examples, not bad examples.
From a Christian perspective, it is possible that evil entities could provide special information to give people the idea they have special powers, with the purpose of leading them astray.
Haha, from a rational person’s perspective, absolute nonsense
Well Surya, I beg you to hold your breath for as long as possible…on the matter
I require an answer to each point Surya.
1 [B]see post #1[/B]… It is your impatience in the matter that has for starters, irritated me. I have made it clear that I wanted no rush, is this true Surya?
2.[B]see post # 20 [/B]I have made it clear that I am waiting for the next full moon, hence my reason for no rush. Is that true Surya?
3.[B] See post #20[/B] I have made it clear I attempted my test on this remote viewing on the last full moon and got 5 out of 6 right. Is that true Surya?
5 [B]See post #36[/B] Joanna make it clear she understands what you fail to. Is this true Surya?
I intend to take as long as I require to complete this.
If I fail, this does not make me a charlatan, it means I failed this test as have many others who are not charlatans either, I think I am brave to try this actually, considering I have only tried it on one other occasion Surya!
My ‘violence’ (in writing) as you put it, is nothing in comparison to what I would have done to you in person, which is to put you over my knee and give you a good thrashing for turning my light hearted experiment into a Surya Deva battle ground. And no use skulking there Thomas, you would get the same. I suggest you both take your hinies back to the Religion section of the forum, where you both belong.
I will not be intimidated by either of you tweenies in the world of debate…now shew shew go away you proverbial ‘pain in the buttresses’.