Surya,
As you have already decided to cling to your conclusions, there is no purpose in discussing this deeper.
“By applying yogic techniques my mind can control my body temperature, heart beat, body temperature, which were previously outside of my control”
I am certain one day with your mind you are also going to change the speed of light, the temperature at which water boils, and whether men are born from the womb of women.
Amir:
Evidently we hold different cosmologies:
You think consciousness is in universe.
I think universe is in consciousness.
Amir:
What do you think about the “collapse of the wave function” of quantum mechanics?
[QUOTE=panoramix;60004]Amir:
What do you think about the “collapse of the wave function” of quantum mechanics?[/QUOTE]
He doesn’t think about it. He only believes in a physical universe with physical laws. Although I have demonstrated to him several times that in modern physics the universe is not believed to be physical, space and time have been falsified and it has also been confirmed that reality is observer-dependent.
In quantum physics teleportation, levitation, walking through solid walls, generating free energy or consciousness interacting with matter are not only not impossible, but possible and expected.
He continues to ignore this and assert his ignorant statements over and over again in different threads.
By the way I think we might be off-topic here!
Wasn’t there someone called Heisenberg who found an electron with several siddhis?
parnoramix,
"Evidently we hold different cosmologies:
You think consciousness is in universe.
I think universe is in consciousness."
I do not think anything whatsoever, the original nature of existence is not to be thought about.
Amaroli is primarily useful for it’s melatonin content, which is unnecessary and urine does contain toxins. It is basically, for someone who enjoys this idea, rather than for scientific purposes. If one cannot remain meditative without the use of additional melatonin, I would question the relevance of their meditative state, since it is temporary and dependent upon external forces.
“I do not think anything whatsoever.”
I would question this. Especially in light of the fact, that you have just recorded your thoughts in history.
If a person must remain celibate and drink urine, their meditation is unstable and they ought not to be considered capable of teaching anyone.
[QUOTE=JenniLeigh;60035]If a person must remain celibate and drink urine, their meditation is unstable and they ought not to be considered capable of teaching anyone.[/QUOTE]
Yes.
Similarly, if one is an atheist, then they have no conscience, morality, intelligence, or humanity.
Please refrain from using deductive logic when attempting to characterize people.
If meditativeness and clarity is dependent upon a temporary external source, do you consider this stability, or does such as state remain in a flux without assistance ?
It is logical.
Besides, your opinion does not particularly interest me.
If meditativeness and clarity is dependent upon a temporary external source, do you consider this stability, or does such as state remain in a flux without assistance ?
>Assuming Amaroli, by definition, is tied to achieving a meditative state, which it isn’t.
It is logical.
It really isn’t.
Besides, your opinion does not particularly interest me.
>Implying your opinions (or should I say misconceptions) carry any import.
[QUOTE=JenniLeigh;60032]Amaroli is primarily useful for it’s melatonin content, which is unnecessary and urine does contain toxins. It is basically, for someone who enjoys this idea, rather than for scientific purposes. If one cannot remain meditative without the use of additional melatonin, I would question the relevance of their meditative state, since it is temporary and dependent upon external forces.[/QUOTE]
Well, anyone is dependant upon externalities to a certain extent. If we follow this logic eating shouldn’t be allowed too, why eat when you can hold prana with siddhic power?
But not anyone is fully developed, and if they were fully developed they wouldn’t be practicing yoga, I guess.
So I see no problem with someone utilizing something external for a deeper internal purpose.
“Assuming Amaroli, by definition, is tied to achieving a meditative state, which it isn’t.”
The presence of melatonin creates a certain state of relaxation, which is conducive to meditation. Specific awareness is needed as to precisely how it’s function affects the mind, which requires individual experimentation. It can be particularly useful, but is limited to the temporary. Gurus have as much tendency as the average individual for dependency on external circumstances, in order to remain balanced.
Your posts Nietsche, indicate that you are merely seeking attention, through the use of controversy.
Pietro, the above post may clarify your concerns as well.
“…if they were fully developed they wouldn’t be practicing yoga, I guess.”
Precisely.
Teaching is limited.
To come across one who is capable may be of use, but this fact remains.
A more significant approach is early morning meditation, while melatonin circulates within the system in greater quantity and does not need to be reabsorbed by the body, which has once again returned to a stimulated and wakeful state upon arising.
[QUOTE=panoramix;59975]It is frequent to develop immuno-intolerance to wheat as we have daily consumed/abused it. Our digestive organs deplete the enzymes needed for digesting the foods we’ve abused, and our immunoglobulins consider them strange bodies. That’s the origin of some ailments.
Have you ever heard about imupro-300 blood test? One can override several pathologies setting an strict, personalized diet.[/QUOTE]
I have heard about it and considered it but opted for an elimination diet and slowly added things back enabling me to reduce symptoms and yes past blood work for immunoglobulin?s shows I?m highly allergic.