Amrita, coffee and male ejaculation

Hello there,

Just to tell you about a long “data-mining” I’ve conducted myself for a year or so, taking note on a calendar when some “events” happened. That’s what I’ve discovered:

  1. Ejaculating “cuts” the amrita production and experience. The more one ejaculates, the longer one takes to experience it again. One ejaculation per month is all right. It does not alter much the amrita cycle. Two ejaculations the same day delay the process up to ten days or two weeks. Three ejaculations to three weeks. And so on.

  2. Coffee is destructive to amrita. I don’t know why. My sensation is that coffee “burns” it somehow. It may take up to a week to re-experience amrita after having had one single cup.

Of course, this happens in my body-mind system. It’s not intended to be a general rule for everybody. But well, your advised. Should you be looking after the wonderful ambrosial nectar, you know now what to experiment with.

That’s all folks!

Hello, Panoramix! Thank you for the information.
I would just like to ask a few questions.
Can you give us a more thorough definition of amrita? As far as my reading goes, amrita is produced when the flow of kundalini becomes strong. But what else other than that? Is it a sign of awakening? Is there any use for amrita that we should avoid ejaculating and coffee?
Can you please also give us references where it stated that coffee and ejaculation cut the amrita production? I am quite worried because these two have been consistently a part of my life. :slight_smile:
To be honest, this is the first time I heard of amrita and it made me very interested, I want to experience it. :slight_smile:

Hello chad-sama,

The information about amrita is sadly scarce. The deepest by far I’ve found on the web is this site: Biology of Kundalini. Amrita is a cerebro-spinal fluid, laden with neurotransmitters and ions. It’s wonderfully intoxicating. Some say it’s rejuvenating (I’ll report back in two hundred years now). It may drip down your throat and tastes sweet like pear juice. No concern, no anxiety, falls upon one when he is experiencing it. Shastras state it is linked to the ascending shakti. Kriya Yoga provides techniques to stimulate or rescue it (from destruction at manipur chakra) as well: viparita karani mudra, amrit pan.

The relation between ejaculation, coffee and amrita is something I’ve discovered happening to me, at least to me. I’ve read and heard many times masters warning about not wasting our seed. The majority of them encourage to ejaculate once per month as much. Something I find plausible, it’s approximately that time on when one begins to feel discomfort or pain. It’s also linked to the lunar phase, as the female menses (recall Lord Shiva’s crescent moon on his forehead). I’ve heard also about favouring tea instead of coffee. I think coffee is not clean.

The best is to auto-experience.

[B]Hi Guys,[/B]

I just joined yesterday and this is my very first post, within this Yogic forum. The mention of Amrita immediately drew my attention and naturally, initiated my response. I agree to some extent with [B]panoramix[/B], about the cause and effect of the sexual release of vital fluids and/or the intake of caffeinated stimulants (like coffee and tea), negating or temporarily postponing the experience of Amrita’s sacred flow.

As we all know from our own unique experiences, through an unwavering concentration, deep meditation and highly-inspired contemplation… our essential pranic energy seems to naturally travel vertically, from the husk of gross physicality to the sphere of subtle spirituality. Such is the enigmatic nature of the ascending path of a human beings Kundalini, in it’s expansive rise and it’s energetic expression. Onwards and upwards, eh? :cool:

So, if stimulating drinks create a restless dynamic in the mind, concentration is hampered and when hampered, direct attunement is temporarily negated, by said restlessness. Likewise, when our vital fluids are spent/released, the pressure to ascend from the spinal base to the higher centers of the brain, is temporarily nullified. Brahmacharya has been advised by countless sages, due to this depleting phenomenon.

That being said, it’s important to hold firm to the reality that intent and attention are not bound by the time-space-continuum. We each will experience such loss of Amrita flow, each in our own unique cycle and dynamic. In my own case, caffeine rarely causes such a state of agitation, that it knocks my center off of it’s honed, transfixed focus… but it’s been over 40 years of meditation practice and it has gradually come of it’s own accord.

The ancient Rishis of the Rig Vedas imbibed Soma for ritualistic, ecstatic purposes and the exploration of their own consciousness; unification with the Supreme Being. Modern discoveries reveal that the legendary elixir was composed of primarily hashish and ephedra (and no doubt, several other Ayurvedic herbs). Whether Gordon Wasson is correct about Amanita Muscaria mushrooms is still debatable and who can really say for sure? My point is this, sometimes we can utilize the power of stimulants to activate our deepening concentration, fueling it as it were, for an entrancing degree of transfixation. In other words, the rules are guidelines and we do have the ability to transcend the effects, to perhaps re-direct their effects?

In my experiences, Amrita most tastes like honeydew melon and indeed, triggers states of multidimensional shifts in attention and heightened conscious-awareness. Such induced euphoria, exponentially expands the fulcrum of one’s own state of being and tangible definition of oneself. I wont go as far as proclaiming that Amrita is a psychedelic entheogen, like psilocybin or DMT… but others might. Regardless of it’s actual chemical composition, it is a naturally occurring, endogenously released nectar. It is accompanied by intense blissfulness and an ecstasy which defies proper description. I personally liken it to a precursor to the level of Savikalpa Samadhi. When this humble seeker is truly worthy enough, Amrita trickles like sweet dewdrops, from the inner region of the brains material core.

In my own case, it is directly and symbiotically related to the activation of the Ajna and in it’s wake, the bloom of the Sahasrara is always resultant. From this divine point, shifting from the Bindu to the realm above the mortal shell is often within reach. It sure seems to facilitate the shift from the Sahasrara, to the transcendental vortex floating above it. From this point, seated approximately 28-30 inches above the crown, most of my work is centered. The exalted Padaka-Pancaka or Vyapini hovers above the physical shell (whihc has been called the eighth chakra).

Well honestly, it’s difficult to say the “work” is even mine… for who am I? Rather, the process unfolds to reveal union with Brahman and that rare symbiosis of self and the Godhead, in the most resplendent of ways. Sorry if I digress from the topic of Amrita and influences which interfere with it’s spontaneous flow or quite the opposite, freely engender it’s flow.

I just feel it is wisest to [I]keep our eye on the prize[/I], so to speak. If we seemingly falter in our spiritual efforts, we need only “pick ourselves up and dust ourselves off… and start all over again” (as the popular old song cleverly states). :wink:

In this way, everything becomes sadhana, even our ascent into the higher regions. In synopsis, it would be wise for each sadhaka to approach their journey of awakening with earnest, accepting any seeming setbacks and moving upwards with renewed determination. My, my… how I ramble on and on. Must be the coffee? Forgive me for being so verbose. Thank you so much for having me on this Yoga forum. Your humble servant, Govinda.
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ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय[/B]

[B]BTW Folks,[/B]

I do not advocate the use of psychedelics or any exogenous stimuli to activate the higher centers, neither do I condemn their use. But we have all of the tools we need within our own neurology, right? Ours is a journey of endless discovery! :smiley:

[B]Namaste, Govinda[/B]

Hi Govinda,

Welcome to forum! and thank you for your wonderful reply.
It was a pleasure to read it. I will re-read it soon.

Namaste