Ancient nuclear war and technology


#21

[QUOTE=Asuri;48842]Let’s assume for the sake of argument, that the writer of this document actually witnessed an aircraft in flight. Why did he describe it in such primitive language? If these people were building and flying aircraft, they would have had a language that was comparable to the technology. I think some of the details of construction are inconsistent with advanced capabilities. It says that the craft was built of light wood, but the engine was iron.[/QUOTE]

This is one of the few things I disagree with SD about. A mercury engine cannot hope to produce enough thrust to ever get of the ground in the first place. Mercury is a pretty odd metal to use in the first place. Not reactive enough. It would be better off to use something that has a high negative enthalpy in a reaction.

And by the way, the Vimanas you speak of SD, are not aerodynamically savvy. I believe an Indian university examined the aircraft designs in these shastras and found that they violated the principles of aerodynamics AND Newton’s laws. And you know what happens when anything violates our Lord God Newton and His laws (in Earth anyway)…you have a very angry teenager yelling in these parts of the forums…

And this is a warning to all…never even THINK of saying our Holy Father Einstein is wrong in any way…or else you will get thrown into a black hole.

While I know there are several things of scientific import in the Hindu scriptures, this is not one of them.


#22

[QUOTE=Asuri;48842]Let’s assume for the sake of argument, that the writer of this document actually witnessed an aircraft in flight. Why did he describe it in such primitive language? If these people were building and flying aircraft, they would have had a language that was comparable to the technology. I think some of the details of construction are inconsistent with advanced capabilities. It says that the craft was built of light wood, but the engine was iron.[/QUOTE]

Well, it’s obvious that the ancient Indians were experiencing Flying Ninja attacks & just lacked the proper terminology to describe the decimation they were suffering. I’m fairly sure that was the beginning of Indian Revisionist History… :smiley:


#23

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;48844]This is one of the few things I disagree with SD about. A mercury engine cannot hope to produce enough thrust to ever get of the ground in the first place. Mercury is a pretty odd metal to use in the first place. Not reactive enough. It would be better off to use something that has a high negative enthalpy in a reaction.

And by the way, the Vimanas you speak of SD, are not aerodynamically savvy. I believe an Indian university examined the aircraft designs in these shastras and found that they violated the principles of aerodynamics AND Newton’s laws. And you know what happens when anything violates our Lord God Newton and His laws (in Earth anyway)…you have a very angry teenager yelling in these parts of the forums…

And this is a warning to all…never even THINK of saying our Holy Father Einstein is wrong in any way…or else you will get thrown into a black hole.

While I know there are several things of scientific import in the Hindu scriptures, this is not one of them.[/QUOTE]

I would like to take this opportunity to correct my grammatical errors.

“Any craft utilizing the mercury engine cannot hope to produce enough thrust to produce flight.”

“One would be better off using something that incites a highly exothermic reaction.”

“…Aerodynamically viable.”

“An additional caveat is to never…”

By the way, I forgot to mention that those shastras containing these mentions of aircraft are fabrications. Some idiot created them around the 19th century. :smiley:


#24

Hey, all I’m saying is that if India didn’t want to get attacked by ninjas then they shouldn’t have announced that they didn’t believe in ninjas… you should never do that btw


#25

[QUOTE=Indra Deva;48856]Well, it’s obvious that the ancient Indians were experiencing Flying Ninja attacks & just lacked the proper terminology to describe the decimation they were suffering. I’m fairly sure that was the beginning of Indian Revisionist History… :D[/QUOTE]

I think it’s possible that these people did see something, like visitors from another planet. The same guys who directed the building of the pyramids and those unexplainable stone structures in South America.


#26

Same story with the Black Plague huh? Europooans lacked the proper terminology to describe the decimation they were suffering (in the millions), so they said “It’s the Jews.” Too bad “Its the Jews” excuse didn’t die off and reappeared in the Holocaust (the destruction of Jews undoubtedly made Christian Westerners happy) and is still present in the white man’s mind even today.


#27

[QUOTE=Asuri;48940]I think it’s possible that these people did see something, like visitors from another planet. The same guys who directed the building of the pyramids and those unexplainable stone structures in South America.[/QUOTE]

Those stone structures you speak of are not “inexplicable.” It is very possible to build those structures. I don’t care how long (within reasonable limits) it takes for the civilization to drag and shape its stones.


#28

Archeologists have already figured out how Stonehenge and the Pyramids were built by ancient societies. Saying ancient aliens did it is fascinating, but it’s also an insult to ancient cultures.


#29

[QUOTE=Star Light;48947]Archeologists have already figured out how Stonehenge and the Pyramids were built by ancient societies. Saying ancient aliens did it is fascinating, but it’s also an [B]insult to ancient cultures.[/B][/QUOTE]

Exactly. As I said before, many Westerners have this superiority complex that prevents their acknowledgement of the actual level to which those civilizations were advanced. Hence all this B.S about aliens and etc.


#30

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;48949]Exactly. As I said before, many Westerners have this superiority complex that prevents their acknowledgement of the actual level to which those civilizations were advanced. Hence all this B.S about aliens and etc.[/QUOTE]

Thankfully I’m not one of those westerners with a superiority complex.


#31

[QUOTE=Star Light;48950]Thankfully I’m not one of those westerners with a superiority complex.[/QUOTE]

Thankfully, you aren’t. If only more were like you…


#32

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;48951]Thankfully, you aren’t. If only more were like you…[/QUOTE]

I spent too much time getting a degree in Anthropology with a concentration in Ancient Near Eastern Cultures to have my mind clouded with white christian bias.


#33

[QUOTE=Star Light;48952]I spent too much time getting a degree in Anthropology with a concentration in Ancient Near Eastern Cultures to have my mind clouded with white christian bias.[/QUOTE]

Excellent! Another apostle of reason joins these parts of the forums! Let us convert these heathens to see the light of our Lord Reason!


#34

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;48945]Those stone structures you speak of are not “inexplicable.” It is very possible to build those structures. I don’t care how long (within reasonable limits) it takes for the civilization to drag and shape its stones.[/QUOTE]

According to the experts who examined a particular site in South America (I don’t remember exactly where), the cuts that were made in the stone would be difficult for us to duplicate even today. Same thing with the pyramids. We cannot really explain how these things were built, and they’re all over the world. Explain that, your nastiness.


#35

[QUOTE=Asuri;48958]According to the experts who examined a particular site in South America (I don’t remember exactly where), the cuts that were made in the stone would be difficult for us to duplicate even today. Same thing with the pyramids. We cannot really explain how these things were built, and they’re all over the world. Explain that, your nastiness.[/QUOTE]

The cuts have been recreated in Egypt by many professionals. They even built a pyramid using the same tools that the ancients used. It really isn’t that difficult to explain. The ancients were masters of their crafts. Their stone carving techniques were very advanced. Thankfully there are many examples of stones that were left in the ground because they cracked during carving or lifting. One amazing example is the abandoned obelisk in a quarry. Like I said, not difficult at all.


#36

[QUOTE=Star Light;48959]The cuts have been recreated in Egypt by many professionals. They even built a pyramid using the same tools that the ancients used. It really isn’t that difficult to explain. The ancients were masters of their crafts. Their stone carving techniques were very advanced. Thankfully there are many examples of stones that were left in the ground because they cracked during carving or lifting. One amazing example is the abandoned obelisk in a quarry. Like I said, not difficult at all.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for saying what I was about to waste my time saying.

The “experts” you quote, Asuri, have no real knowledge on the techniques ancient cultures used to build their structures (don’t we all get tired of hearing the same hammer and chisel bull every time an idiot archeologist finds a structure he/she can’t explain?). On top of that, they have no real knowledge of Engineering so they go around saying “aliens did it” when they reach the limits of their imagination and the heights of their ignorance.

I think you are watching the History Channel too much. The shows nowadays are interesting but complete garbage in terms of their content and factual basis. It is kind of like saying “Alexander the Great < Atilla the Hun” since “Deadliest Warrior” proved so.


#37

That’s right, nobody really knows how they were built, or by whom. This is really the first time I’ve heard the theory of a lost human civilization, and I’ve heard the theory of extra-terrestrial visitors. Both are plausible, but the bottom line is, we don’t know.

I recall reading some Indian document that described interplanetary travel, and thinking, wow, that could literally be true. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find that document again.


#38

[QUOTE=Asuri;48962]That’s right, nobody really knows how they were built, or by whom. This is really the first time I’ve heard the theory of a lost human civilization, and I’ve heard the theory of extra-terrestrial visitors. Both are plausible, but the bottom line is, we don’t know.

I recall reading some Indian document that described interplanetary travel, and thinking, wow, that could literally be true. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find that document again.[/QUOTE]

Precisely. So these “experts” shouldn’t jump to ridiculous assumptions.

Interesting. I find many references to advanced concepts in Indian scriptures. For example, in the Mahabharata, there were a couple of lines that were talking about the transitory nature of the human body. It clearly stated that every “cell” in the body replaces itself every 6 or 7 years. And the last time I did research on this matter, I found it to be true (when one includes the skeleton and other factors apparently). Of course, I am not sure whether my sources were trustworthy, but it is something I will look into further.


#39

[QUOTE=Asuri;48962]That’s right, nobody really knows how they were built, or by whom. This is really the first time I’ve heard the theory of a lost human civilization, and I’ve heard the theory of extra-terrestrial visitors. Both are plausible, but the bottom line is, we don’t know.

I recall reading some Indian document that described interplanetary travel, and thinking, wow, that could literally be true. Unfortunately I haven’t been able to find that document again.[/QUOTE]

We do know how they were built and by whom. As I said earlier it has been recreated. it would have been difficult at that time to do so but it was done in the name of worship. Just because “experts” say that they are not sure how it was done just their ignorance and unwillingness to accept how advanced ancient cultures were. There have been many articles wrote documentaries made, and experiments done to show how this was accomplished. The people who built the monuments of Egypt were buried in the shadows of them. It was to show their continued allegiance to the Pharaoh and to thank them for their hard work. Slaves or aliens would not have been buried so close to the Pharaoh. Forensic anthropologists have completed studies on these workers and came to that conclusion. I don’t know why it’s so difficult to understand.


#40

Thank you for your reasonable and logical statements (I myself already knew this though :smiley: ).