[QUOTE=Nietzsche;50384]Humility isn’t a Christian virtue anyways. It is the product of being a HUMAN BEING. Besides, most Christians don’t exhibit this virtue at all. Even you Thomas, perhaps the most open minded Christian I have ever met, do not since you have reservations about the superiority of your religion (as do all Christians).[/QUOTE]
and what of your superiority Billy?
Where have you put poor Thomas’s body? What have you done with him?
[QUOTE=kareng;50703]and what of your superiority Billy?
Where have you put poor Thomas’s body? What have you done with him?[/QUOTE]
What of it? I believe any religion is better than Christianity or Islam, not just Hinduism, only because of its numerous faults. I know these religions have the potential for reform, however small it may be. Once these religions are fixed, then I can happily go back to the much touted “all paths are equal” stuff. But we all know that won’t happen without considerable effort and awareness.
He is usually on business trips. Thomas is a busy man and has no time to deal with young whippersnappers like us.
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;50719]What of it? I believe any religion is better than Christianity or Islam, not just Hinduism, only because of its numerous faults. I know these religions have the potential for reform, however small it may be. Once these religions are fixed, then I can happily go back to the much touted “all paths are equal” stuff. But we all know that won’t happen without considerable effort and awareness.
He is usually on business trips. Thomas is a busy man and has no time to deal with young whippersnappers like us.[/QUOTE]
Billy wants a war…
Poor Thomas is missing, no doubt trying to regain his spiritual composure a long the way …it’s your fault…leave the Christians alone big bully billy!
[QUOTE=kareng;50753]Billy wants a war…
Poor Thomas is missing, no doubt trying to regain his spiritual composure a long the way …it’s your fault…leave the Christians alone big bully billy![/QUOTE]
Nope, I will not leave the Christians alone. They deserve to pay for what they have done, pay by reforming their religions lest the suffer much backlash in the future. All this criticism is for their own benefit. You all say that what I do is evil, but in reality it is you all who are evil because you are postponing the impending doom by placing it upon the shoulders of the younger generations. Y’all are like the rest of America back in the pre-Civil war days who hated and scorned the abolitionists. Guess what eventually happened? The bloodiest war the U.S ever got their hands into. Evil should be promptly stamped out wherever it appears.
By the way, let me tell you something. Today in school, my whole table (full of Christians) started yelling at me. How did it happen? Well I was talking about “Lord” Isaac Newton (I was joking about the lord part and they knew it) and how I admired him for his math/physics contributions. Then one of my friends (ironic no?) started spewing crap about how Buddha was inferior to Jesus because he was human (and thus, Buddhism being a baseless religion). You can pretty much guess what happened from there.
Yes the greatest holy scriptures are found within one’s own nervous system and their authority is the highest and authentic & trumps any book out there be it the bible, the upanishads or the Gita.
This is true, but it is also true that the truths of ones own nervous system correspond to the truths of the Gita. But they do not correspond to the truths of the bible. This is why Hinduism is a true religion, because its truths correspond to actual truths of reality. Like the truths of science correspond to the actual truths of reality.
The difference between Hinduism and Christianity/Islam is Christianity and Islam are myths and Hinduism is true. This is why Hinduism is the true religion. And it is inevitable when one spiritually develops they will become more and more Hindu in their outlook.
[quote=Surya Deva;50870]This is true, but it is also true that the truths of ones own nervous system correspond to the truths of the Gita. But they do not correspond to the truths of the bible. This is why Hinduism is a true religion, because its truths correspond to actual truths of reality. Like the truths of science correspond to the actual truths of reality.
The difference between Hinduism and Christianity/Islam is Christianity and Islam are myths and Hinduism is true. This is why Hinduism is the true religion. And it is inevitable when one spiritually develops they will become more and more Hindu in their outlook.[/quote]
Well said SD.
You definitely get a prize…:roll:
All those other false religions are imposters posing as the truth;)
Now i can [I]see [/I]why Lotus girl is a closet-hindu; it all makes complete & utter sense now
…lol
I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic, but the question of whether other religions are true or not does not even have to be asked, because we know for a fact they are wrong and tell us wrong things. The earth is not flat for example.
These same religions tell us many other porkies. It is then right to say they are false religions. Hinduism, on the other hand, has been validated over and over again by science. Hinduism tells us right things, so therefore it is right to call it a true religion.
Since, when did you become politically correct?
[quote=Surya Deva;50884]I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic, but the question of whether other religions are true or not does not even have to be asked, because we know for a fact they are wrong and tell us wrong things. The earth is not flat for example.
These same religions tell us many other porkies. It is then right to say they are false religions. Hinduism, on the other hand, has been validated over and over again by science. Hinduism tells us right things, so therefore it is right to call it a true religion.[/quote]
Yes, the best reflected & validated by science… it would appear that way based on previous posts of yours… which do make a compelling & convincing case and rational arguments for this kind of assertion
Since, when did you become politically correct?
How do you mean?
Now,you’re not being sarcastic are you? :roll:
Hi Surya
I don’t believe in religion. Religion is man-made. Yoga is a divine gift …from God if you like…if you believe in that. You can believe though whatever you want to believe…
I’m not dishing what you say…i am inclined to agree with the bulk of it as you use reason and sound bases for what you’re saying…in fact i have’nt seen anythingi think is faulty with anything you’ve written or at least that i can think of on this forum other than an odd recent post on tantra i did’nt or would’nt necessarily buy but your thing is jnana yoga…
Oh…and regards Lotusgirl…i know she’s probably caught up in some cyclone right now but yes i was not being sarcastic. YOU nailed it on the head for me.
She’ll come out her closet soon enough , I know she will…
I can feel a twister brewing…lol
Yous two should get it on though…:roll:
Lotusgirrrlllllll…Helllloooaooooaooooooooooo…
Tigeressss…lol
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;50884]I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic, but the question of whether other religions are true or not does not even have to be asked, because we know for a fact they are wrong and tell us wrong things. The earth is not flat for example.
These same religions tell us many other porkies. It is then right to say they are false religions. Hinduism, on the other hand, has been validated over and over again by science. Hinduism tells us right things, so therefore it is right to call it a true religion.
Since, when did you become politically correct?[/QUOTE]
The earth isn’t flat!!!??? You mean I’ve been needlessly worrying all these years about getting too close to the edge and falling off?
OH NO!!! :eek:
My Church has been lying to me then. What a liar Jesus is!
Now where is that church teaching that tells me the earth is flat? I’m going to write to the pope about it.
I’m sure SD can come up with the source. It’s probably in the next paragraph after the one that says we are taught to practice beastiality…
[QUOTE=thomas;50908]The earth isn’t flat!!!??? You mean I’ve been needlessly worrying all these years about getting too close to the edge and falling off?
OH NO!!! :eek:
My Church has been lying to me then. What a liar Jesus is!
Now where is that church teaching that tells me the earth is flat? I’m going to write to the pope about it.
I’m sure SD can come up with the source. It’s probably in the next paragraph after the one that says we are taught to practice beastiality…[/QUOTE]
It no longer exists and only because the Church had no choice but to conform to the world around it, lest they risk making fools of themselves. Their grudging acceptance is part of the reason Galileo was pardoned in the 20th century…yes, the TWENTIETH CENTURY!
Yeah, well tell me when the Church delcared the earth is flat. Cite the documents please.
And the Galileo incident had nothing to do with the shape of the earth, and the dispute was not about science but doctrine.
[QUOTE=thomas;50965]Yeah, well tell me when the Church delcared the earth is flat. Cite the documents please.
And the Galileo incident had nothing to do with the shape of the earth, and the dispute was not about science but doctrine.[/QUOTE]
No the Church didn’t invent this doctrine and neither was it the first to accept it. But it was the first to persecute people based on it. Relatively though, the doctrinal backlash wasn’t that serious compared to the backlash one could receive for objections against heliocentricism and was indeed largely variable.
Anyway, the flat Earth beliefs somewhat died out in Europe after the introduction of Islamic astronomy, to the point where no one cared and where Heliocentrism became the greater issue.
I know that. I was making a comparison about the grudging acceptance of changes not in line with Christian doctrine.
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;50870]This is true, but it is also true that the truths of ones own nervous system correspond to the truths of the Gita. But they do not correspond to the truths of the bible. This is why Hinduism is a true religion, because its truths correspond to actual truths of reality. Like the truths of science correspond to the actual truths of reality.
The difference between Hinduism and Christianity/Islam is Christianity and Islam are myths and Hinduism is true. This is why Hinduism is the true religion. And it is inevitable when one spiritually develops they will become more and more Hindu in their outlook.[/QUOTE]
SD…where did you get the quote from?
Trouble is SD, when someone practices, e.g. meditation and they get to a point where they might see things, the format belongs to their lineage, yes?
The process is explained in Hinduism and not say, in the bible, yes?
The Bible offers self realisation by holding the same important elements of the process expressed in Hinduism, so the individual can become self realised following some of their Christian rules. just as they can in Hinduism and all the others, yes?
When someone tells you they have had a vision of the Mother Mary and another person of a different holy figure, they are following their spiritual lineage, for that moment, yes?
So its the fact that the process is explained realistically in Hinduism and not in say Christianity, that bothers you? - I get it…
So you want Hinduism to gain the recognition for understanding and expressing the processes
Other religions and practices that have formed, and work, for the individual,…assuming of course, they are practising the important elements necessary for self realisation and many reincarnated back into their particular religion or practice, do get as far in their spiritual progress as a Hindu might.
This is what the so-called New Ager understands.
There are many practices that produce self -realisation.
You appear to be suggesting to remove all the unnecessary parts, as you see it, in all other practices…but we already know that self realisation can come about in the weirdest and/or extreme forms of practices…
So yes, the processes, (Hindu) are there but they can be practised, (Christian, Sikh etc) in many ways and this will always be the same for some time to come because a person will be reminded of their lineage in private spiritual practices. and/or their distance geographically produces variations…the individuals personal tweeking etc…
[QUOTE=thomas;50908]The earth isn’t flat!!!??? You mean I’ve been needlessly worrying all these years about getting too close to the edge and falling off?
OH NO!!! :eek:
My Church has been lying to me then. What a liar Jesus is!
Now where is that church teaching that tells me the earth is flat? I’m going to write to the pope about it.
I’m sure SD can come up with the source. It’s probably in the next paragraph after the one that says we are taught to practice beastiality…[/QUOTE]
hahahaha very funny Thomas!
[QUOTE=kareng;50987]SD…where did you get the quote from?
Trouble is SD, when someone practices, e.g. meditation and they get to a point where they might see things, the format belongs to their lineage, yes?
The process is explained in Hinduism and not say, in the bible, yes?
The Bible offers self realisation by holding the same important elements of the process expressed in Hinduism, so the individual can become self realised following some of their Christian rules. just as they can in Hinduism and all the others, yes?
When someone tells you they have had a vision of the Mother Mary and another person of a different holy figure, they are following their spiritual lineage, for that moment, yes?
So its the fact that the process is explained realistically in Hinduism and not in say Christianity, that bothers you? - I get it…
So you want Hinduism to gain the recognition for understanding and expressing the processes
Other religions and practices that have formed, and work, for the individual,…assuming of course, they are practising the important elements necessary for self realisation and many reincarnated back into their particular religion or practice, do get as far in their spiritual progress as a Hindu might.
This is what the so-called New Ager understands.
There are many practices that produce self -realisation.
You appear to be suggesting to remove all the unnecessary parts, as you see it, in all other practices…but we already know that self realisation can come about in the weirdest and/or extreme forms of practices…
So yes, the processes, (Hindu) are there but they can be practised, (Christian, Sikh etc) in many ways and this will always be the same for some time to come because a person will be reminded of their lineage in private spiritual practices. and/or their distance geographically produces variations…the individuals personal tweeking etc…[/QUOTE]
Oh yes, what about the individuals who will practice parts of Hinduism badly and send themselves mad?..?
Ha did my own quote somehow, I must have left it too late to edit…
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;50819]Nope, I will not leave the Christians alone. They deserve to pay for what they have done, pay by reforming their religions lest the suffer much backlash in the future. All this criticism is for their own benefit. You all say that what I do is evil, but in reality it is you all who are evil because you are postponing the impending doom by placing it upon the shoulders of the younger generations. Y’all are like the rest of America back in the pre-Civil war days who hated and scorned the abolitionists. Guess what eventually happened? The bloodiest war the U.S ever got their hands into. Evil should be promptly stamped out wherever it appears.
By the way, let me tell you something. Today in school, my whole table (full of Christians) started yelling at me. How did it happen? Well I was talking about “Lord” Isaac Newton (I was joking about the lord part and they knew it) and how I admired him for his math/physics contributions. Then one of my friends (ironic no?) started spewing crap about how Buddha was inferior to Jesus because he was human (and thus, Buddhism being a baseless religion). You can pretty much guess what happened from there.[/QUOTE]
Billy, you will have to hold your ground…its the Jesus/resurrection debate…
It’s the Christian ace up the sleeve row…
wARNING not suitable for hindus to watch
[QUOTE=kareng;50992]Billy, you will have to hold your ground…its the Jesus/resurrection debate…
It’s the Christian ace up the sleeve row…[/QUOTE]
You mean the stuff about everyone becoming as zombie as Jesus became? Those silly Christians and their necromancy…