OM Namashivaya
does any one come out from drug adiction and psychiatric medcation?
Om shanti shanti shanti hi.
any else knew abt these kind of information, please give some advice , atleast where I can get more information on this.
thanks a lot
!!!OM SHANTI SHANTI SHANTI HI!!!
Obviously you are very anxious for an answer to this eh?
Are you asking about Yoga for help with mental illness and addictions?
[QUOTE=InnerAthlete;17175]Obviously you are very anxious for an answer to this eh?
Are you asking about Yoga for help with mental illness and addictions?[/QUOTE]
Yes please, does any one had experianced or heard it? coming out of usages by doing yoga? does YOGA helps for mental illnes and addictions of drugs and psychiatrics medications?
please pass the information,
many many thanks.
Yes a Yoga practice can support one who is sincerely interested in dealing with drug addictions and mental illness. Though obviously those two things are in different categories.
These qualify as therapeutic issues and have very specific protocols in terms of asana, pranayama, meditation, and lifestyle/nutrition.
For some reason, I have the feeling that you live in India. Perhaps these ailments are best treated in an ashram environment. Some well-known adresses are: in Pune (www.kabirbaug.com , www.bksiyengar.com , www.kdham.com) and in Chennai (www.kym.org) and in Bangalore (www.vyasa.org) and in Mumbai (www.yogainstitute.org). These references are given in Timothy McCalls’s book on Yoga as Medicine. Hopefully there is someone near you or someone who can help you further amongst these references. Blessings.
Hi Willem!!!
thanks you very much, the information you have provided is greatefull and its will let me to know more information.
am really happy to say this that am an Indian but living in Madrid, Spain. for 1month vocation am going to India so at the same time wants to visit ASHRAMS so that i learn good yoga(aprt from what am going trough now, its PATHANGALI YOGA) and even treatement of AYURVEDA.
My city is HYDERABAD, if you know more please, I really apreciate your help,
thanks a lot
!!! Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Hi!!!
Hi IneerAtlet,
Can please suggest me for some ashrams in India, I have abituated to psychiatric medcation So wanna come out(take treatement) with NATURAL way(effort).
thanks you very much for your concern on this issue,
really greate information and greate advice of yours,
!!! Om Shanti Shanti Shanti Hi!!!
Hello my friend.
I am not a good source for ashrams in India. Others may have more to offer you in this regard.
I would likely wind up in Pondicherry at the Aurobindo Ashram. But that is what suits me and it would be arrogant to presume it also suits others.
Yoganandham,
I have a query into a friend who recently spent time in HDB regarding a good place to study. I will reply when I hear back from her.
All happiness,
Nichole
Yoganandham,
I have heard good things about agamayoga.com. They teach a kind of tantra yoga or what they also describe as true integral yoga drawing on both tibetan and buddhist traditions, and ancient teaching.
they say their teaching are undiluted and authentic. You can go to their website and read more.
I believe they offer a kind of buffet of diverse teachings where you can take or leave,nibble or devour what they have to offer.
If i was in Rishkesh myself, where they have a centre, i would possibly drop by and sample what they have to offer.
they have a fairly charismatic swami head teacher, as head of the organisation in their thaliand headqarters. I believe he orginated agamyoga in rishikesh around 2000-01(i think ?) or so with a handful of students say ,then moved HQ to thailand because of expansion
They've got a one month intensive.I've sampled one of their teachers
The teacher i encountered had an emphasis on working with the energy centres/i.e cakras of the body and the focus was more on a kind of mental yoga, as well as relaxation.It struck me as more "hard-core", if i can put it that way, and complete yoga than other yoga classes i had gone to before( with more than just asana, as tools to work with), and i could clearly see the benefits this yoga had had on the teacher.
Their school and teachings do look rather tempting and tantalising. If i was in rishikesh i would be tempted to try them out here in the first instance.They are also surprsiingly inexpensive.
Hyderabad is a big city and population, so you may find somthing also suitable there.
All yoga's i believe probably lead to the same or simlar place-samadhi or whatever.
i don't think it matters which tradtion or school you follow. You want a yoga that incorporates your life and living. Integrates all experience.Otherwise you are just doing some yoga, (or indeed just asana)some of the time.Yoga in thought and deed.Complete Rather than compromise and half-measure.I'm not that familiar with sri-aurobindo's work, philosophy/yoga but the impression i'm geting is he (maybe) relates a yoga that incorporates all experience,existence which i do find quite profound as well as compelling.It sounds more in tune with how the 4 paths of yoga, related to in say the bhagavad gita- karma,jnana etc can be related to on a practical level ,and most importantly lived.
Once you dig under the surface of yoga and plumb it's depths you realise you don't really have to go travel anywhere, in some sense.That Himalayan ashram is really in your head.
Of course Willem's suggestions are really good including the krishnamacharya Yoga Mandiram & BksIyengar's place.
here'a quote from the great Krishnmacharya-
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He said something like -if you can breath, you can do yoga.
Think about it.
If you maybe struggling with your pranayama , samaredyss, may i suggest there should be enough i think in simple breath awareness, as simple as it might sound, to keep one occupied.Mindful and gentle asana and breath/prana awareness is something that need time to nurture and cultivate, and be receptive to couple with apporpripate lifestyle&diet( that is why i am not in favour of drugs) changes. And i regard medication as just another drug. It does not offer natural healing.And i think is artifical.This is just my opinion however.It may have temporary application but not long-term solution ;they merely hide the symptoms or bury them under the mattress.Sooner or later you want to get off them, off any dependency or need that may arise through taking them.
Your problems may be handled better under apporpiate guidance & yoga in an ashram or with experiencd teacher familiar and confident in dealing with these kinds of issues.The fact that you're here demonstrates yo'uve made enormous progress. You say so yourself,that the yoga has helped and is helping …......
ie. move away from medication towards natural methods of healing.
I'm slightly with David here, as I fiind it slightly at odds with aims and principles of yoga to hear yoga teachers even here recommend medication as a solution, efen if it's a part solution..Some claim the drugs work( for example anti-psychotics or anti-depressants); i'm just not so sure about that myself. Yes temporarily until you sop taking them... ...perhaps. It's plucking at straws I feel.This particular debate can ofcourse obviously rage on though that is not my intention.
I'd drop by this place
try their style out.
http://www.agamayoga.com/centers/india/rishikesh/
I really don't t think it matters where you go-it's all good- ,as long as you get the help you need and obviously deserve.
I'm just curious but Can i just ask you a question, or 2-
1)Have you tried asana?
2)And how long have you been exploring yoga, whether hatha or in it's broader sense?
thanks
[quote=core789;17258]Yoganandham,
I have heard good things about agamayoga.com. They teach a kind of tantra yoga or what they also describe as true integral yoga drawing on both tibetan and buddhist traditions, and ancient teaching.[/quote]
Correction-substitute word 'buddhist', my mistake, for the word 'indian'.
not sure why i said that but i guess they seem to teach a broad ranging kind of yoga, and study of the ancient texts is part of that.A wikipediia entry on a definition of 'tantra' distinguishes this from say a purely vedic tradtion. The 'agamas' are revered texts. I could never do it justice trying to explain it here so you're better looking up yourself, what this indeed allmight mean.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%80gama_(Hinduism)
Also,Tibetan yoga tends to have more cultural anchors,roots within buddhism. Like wise indian yoga with hinduism, loosely speaking.
So agamayoga i meant to say taught at this ashram/centre draws on both indian and tibetan traditions.I daresay they might teach buddhist raja yoga stuff in there too as they probably teach a medley of different things, so without confining themselves to any one dogma or exclusive school. i.e so integral yoga is probably a like a form of tantra yoga, or really perhpas more like a modern incarnation or guise .
[quote=Nichole;17252]Yoganandham,
I will reply when I hear back from her.
All happiness,
Nichole[/quote]
thanks a lot Nichole!
let me explain about my YOGA efforts and practices for clear vision,
am a Patanjali yoga fallower, doing it from 6 months, now am doing good, So I can practise this kind of YOGA only, others(like Hatha yoga can be, but not my current practise),
the time that am going to spend is 1 month, if needed I can extend it, So now I have to plan on it.
thanks once again, wait for your reply
Have a nice time,
!!!Om shanti Shanti Shanti HI!!!
[QUOTE=core789;17258]Samareddys,
gita- karma,jnana etc can be related to on a practical level ,and most importantly lived.
Once you dig under the surface of yoga and plumb it’s depths you realise you don’t really have to go travel anywhere, in some sense.
If you maybe struggling with your pranayama , samaredyss, may i suggest there should be enough i think in simple breath awareness, as simple as it might sound, to keep one occupied.
The fact that you’re here demonstrates yo’uve made enormous progress. You say so yourself,that the yoga has helped and is helping ?..
ie. move away from medication towards natural methods of healing.
1)Have you tried asana?
2)And how long have you been exploring yoga, whether hatha or in it’s broader sense?
thanks[/QUOTE]
Dear core789!!!
Today am here with happy to share more information,
YOGA:- might be 4paths as said in GEETHA, it will be more effective once go under it completly, as these might be there, as well as my effort should be more than present So the effort I want them in the correct way.
1, in 2006 I have tried some asanas, Hatha YOGA but am not going through them, reason is didnt worked on it perfectly, Just did it coz teachers told me to do so… But now what am doing is becouse I LOVE to do as I saw the greatenes of it.
2, not just Hatha, its Pathanjali Yoga(PRANAYAMA) along with some YOGA excersizes from last 6 months.
Even I do SAHAJA yoga, its just KUNDALINI yoga which realated to spirituality and mainly concerns about CHAKRAS.
keep u more updated by next scrab.
thanks for all
I do nadi shodhana, from time to time.
Breath slowly and deeply.
Regulates prana, the energetic body ,balancing ida and pingala* reputedly.,
relieves tensions, mind & body
and stress ,and calms the mind.
Occassional asana- if i do i just [I]try [/I],my best, to ensure i’m very* mindful and gentle- may include some down-dog,cat,hero,lunge, mindful warriors ,sirsana, savasana, just whatever i feel comfortable in and/or might be appropriate in sequence.I tried headstand lately and it’s one of the few poses i’ve felt semi-confortable in.But that is just me.( to anyone reading this -it took me at least 3-5 months to consider trying it, when i started asana- there’s no rush!) Everyone’s practiice should be adapted to the indiivdual, and modifed where necessary if they’re in say a group class .
No need to rush anything.Respect your yoga.
patanjali yoga aims at controlling the fluctuations of the mind, the ‘citta vrittti’- it is an interetsing state to be in, one of calm and ease,. Though ican’t say am int hat state just now. if you are earnest and patient, it should come.
Don’t hang too much expectation on your practice. i believe that is bad. it is the effort that should count, not so much the result.
in addition i have been learning varoius somatic excercise series( hanna somatics- 10 months now) now and again, which aim to relieve muscular tension through re-awakening sensory-motor circuits in the brain.It empploy sensory awareness to release tight muscles, in my case on one side of the body.
You’re better getting someone that’s been through whatever you’ve been through, going though, so you can adapt a yoga to suit you.
You also have to trust your practice will offer up fruit if one is committed and patient.
teachers are only guides at the end of the day.Guides holding lanterns, is the metaphor my mind conjures up.
Attachment to expected or desired for, outcomes of any practice sounds to me like another raja. and don’t strive too much. the striving is probably just ego.
Also remember, breath is at the very heart of yoga- balance, a still mind, the emotions etc.
I’ll quote bks.iyengar during a speech he once made-
‘In the hatha Yoga pradipka, they say that the mind is the king of the senses, and the breath -the king of the mind, and if the nose, the nervous system, which is about 6000 miles in our system, has a rhythmic vibration, that rhythmic vibraation, in the nose, becomes… the king of the breath.’
And then he went on to demonstrate the rhthym of that ‘sound of breath’ as he put it on inhalation, and exhalation. You may have heard this before, but you can look it up on u-tube, if not.
Here’s an interesting link about the5 kleshas, and 5 kosha & 7 cakras, though it does’nt exactly say how they all relate.
http://reneemarie.vox.com/library/post/the-seven-chakras-study-of-yoga.html#comments
PYS- 2.3
’The five afflictions are ignorance, egoism, attachment, aversion, and the desire to cling to life. ’
I guess the light of understanding may cometh once you’re enlightened!! Fair enough. But it efers to kleshas as the obstacles to yoga practice( patanajaly Ch.2)., loosely understood as the roots of human suffering- attachment,ego, clinging to life etc, constructs perhaps of a conditioned mind. The eight limbs can purify you enoough so you can releeive yourself of the binds of the kleshas, which once released pave your way to patanajali ?gold? at the end of the rainbow , so to speak.
[B]OM SHANTI, SHANTI, SHANTI[/B]
Hi Yoganandham,
Yoga took me out from severe depressions and cannabis + tobacco addiction.
Either ill or not you should take the step. You’ll reap great benefits.
Do it!!!
Hi Crore,
am thankfull to u,
intresting is BNS iyenger speach and chakras.
about these chakras I am learning them in SAHAJA YOGA, it works perfectly when a persons trust his effort with consious mind.
–> thats exactly right what you said , marked in BOLD , should be a place , teacher, yoga which should be with what am going through.
-> can u explain more about somatic excercise series( hanna somatics), --: as you mentioned your one side got weakend, its the same that I was explaining you that , in my case also it happened,
--------- this is explained very well in the YOGA of 7chakras and 3 lines(NADI`s, might be a other word) , so the left becomes weaker at first with NEGATIVE THINKINGS, and PAST(sadnes, grief and etc…, as per SAHAJA yoga) related.
my left side body gets much stress than right side , when explained about this to my doctors , they say that, this kind of things doesnt exist in SCIENCE.
–> am not expecting much from YOGA or what am doing now but am expecting much to learn more(abt yoga, meditation and spiritual) in my life.
!!!OM Shanti Shanti Shanti Hi!!!
[QUOTE=core789;17340]I do nadi shodhana, from time to time.
[B]You’re better getting someone that’s been through whatever you’ve been through, going though, so you can adapt a yoga to suit you.[/B]
Here’s an interesting link about the5 kleshas, and 5 kosha & 7 cakras, though it does’nt exactly say how they all relate.
http://reneemarie.vox.com/library/post/the-seven-chakras-study-of-yoga.html#comments
[B]OM SHANTI, SHANTI, SHANTI[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=panoramix;17393]Hi samareddys
Yoga took me out from severe depressions and cannabis + tobacco addiction.
Either ill or not you should take the step. You’ll reap great benefits.
Do it!!![/QUOTE]
Hi Panoramix!
am happy here with your words and which are giving me much interest to go ahead and to try sincearly.
what kind of YOGA ur gone through?
please let me know more
thanks
!! OM Shanti Shanti Shanti HI!!!
I started with Hatha, asanas + pranayama, and also meditation.
I wonderfully worked and quick.
Some few months latter, i was a new man. It was like taking birth again.
=)
Hi Panoramix!
I even do 7 kind of Pranayamas, along with excersizes.
PRANAYAMAS:- 1, BHASTRIKA, 2, KAPALBHATI 3, BHAYI PRANAYAMA 4, ANULOM VILOM 5, BRAHMARI PRANAYAMA 6, UDGEETH AND 7, UGGEETH PRANAYAMA. I do them in a sequence.
I know Sahaja Yoga, as its bit related to spirituality , which explains about KUNDALINI and chakras, So here all are so simpler, purifying the body by chakras one by one and CHANNELS…
please come again, with more on what you did exactly.
thanks
!! OM Shanti Shanti Shanti Hi!!