Challenging students

I have recently ran into a situation in my classes that I would love others opinions on…
There is a member that attends my classes regularly and parks her mat very close to mine. She is very good at yoga and tends to do poses to their extreme, adds binds and twists to poses, and also does poses and sequences that I am not even queuing. These classes are being taught at a local fitness facility that puts restrictions on some poses because they can be a bit dangerous for the general populations and the gym gets such a large variety of people. Within the last 2 weeks she has begun to coach people after class and even had an argument with a gym member about the spine and how it should and shouldn’t bend. She has even interrupted into a conversation that I was having with a member about how many classes one should take a day or week!
When she first started to attend my classes I really dug deep and checked my ego. I wanted to be certain that I was not feeling threatened by her. I know when we guide a class it is not a class for us, it is a class for the members/students. The greatest of teachers I have encountered (Byran Kest, Baron Baptise, Sean Corn) don’t do the poses at their workshops!
There are several other things she has done but now I believe she is getting out of hand. She has seemed to appointed herself my co-teacher that knows more than me.
I talked to the coordinator of the facility and she said that if she continues to try to coach others it can be a liability and that I should let her know that…I discreetly left a note for her to read after class last week thinking it was the best way to communicate with her. Wish me luck!
Please pass this along or post it so that I can get others feedback. I would love to know what others would do in this situation!

YogaTerra

Hello Terra,

I realize you ask for opinion however I am not able to supply that. What I can supply is that which you and I share with others - Yoga.

There are three elements in your post which I 'd like to touch on. The first is a clarification of Yoga, the second is the motivations for student behavior in class, and the third is the method or methods the teacher can use to handle student motivations (number two above).

Yoga is a vast body of wisdom encompassing a myriad of tools for human development. Poses or postures (asana) are but a sliver of a tool in that box. There’s nothing wrong with asana, in fact it can be very beneficial, however it is not Yoga. Ergo a student who can stand on their thumbs and do so quite well does not necessarily manifest any yoga in their life at all - especially when they are disrespectful to the teacher, distracting to other practitioners, and aggrandizing their own ego (at the expense of others).

When a student comes to class they have agreed to leave a bit of their personal practice at home in order to practice in a class setting, with others, as a collective, in harmony. These are important components of a group practice unless it is a practice specifically designed for each person to do their own thing.

[B]Three basic reasons[/B] for students to do something other than what is being instructed. I’ll address them individually.

[B]Misinterpretation of an instruction[/B] - this the teacher corrects with another instruction, a demonstration, a touch, or an assist.

[B]Injury, overly stiff or overly mobile[/B] - again these cases are where the student and teacher are IN relationship to each other and the teacher is providing modifications for that student in that situation at that time.

[B]Ego[/B] - the craving to be seen and recognized is so strong in the student that they are unable or unwilling to relinquish their personal practice to practice in harmony with others. In these cases the student does other poses not being instructed. It is completely inappropriate, in a class setting, for a student to not follow along with the teacher (except in reason 1 and 2 above). It is both disrespectful to the teacher, their training, their planning, and to the other students who have come to collectively practice and learn.

[B]Now what to do[/B].
If the teacher has a deep understanding of yoga there are many avenues, many ways to guide the student. If the teacher is merely a choreographer then it becomes difficult. It can also be more difficult if management is not completely behind the teacher. In either case you are just addressing in-class behavior. What happens on the rest of the gym floor is up to the director of the facility.

In class begin to teach the students the concept of harmonious practice. Teach them to exhale at the same time, teach them to inhale at the same time. Teach them to stay very focused on the poses and instructions at hand and to discover if they can muster enough power to remain there (focus) or if they are allowing weakness into their minds and wandering off to other formations, other thoughts, other breath etcetera. Teach them that real power is being able to bring yourself completely to one thing and that one thing, in a class, is that thing which the class is doing - not something the class is not.

Additionally, walk over to those students doing other things and ask them why they are not following the class or why they are doing that particular thing. Give them a chance to explain their perspective. You can simply say “please don’t bind in this pose” or “no mudras please”.

If this doesn’t have effect over the span of a few weeks then have a face-to-face with any continuing offenders. Be very kind, very gentle, very compassionate. Also be very direct. Tell said student(s) that you are efforting to unify the class and craft an energetically harmonizing practice in the way(s) you’ve been trained…and you’d like their participation and cooperation.

I am not a teacher. This is just another thought.

I wonder if it would be a good idea to suggest to her a more advanced class more suited to her level? Not in that you’re trying to get rid of her, but perhaps so she will be properly guided and challenged along with others students at her level. Perhaps this will be better for her to be more on par with the other students.

I’m curious how it turns out, please let us know. Best of luck!

If the situation gets too out of hand, you could possibly ask one of the gym facilitators, or managers to attend a class as a student to witness what is happening. Once they have witnessed it maybe they could have a chat with the student or a chat with the class.

Another way to approach it is maybe to suggest a teacher training course to her. Express that she is very good, but you think she may be lacking in some of the yoga philosophy, and should maybe focus more of her practice on it. You are also her teacher, try to guide her in the right direction.

You are there to teach, and the students are there to follow and learn from you. Not the other way around, or to learn from someone else. You spent good money and time becoming an instructor I am sure. The students attending your class should respect this, and be thankful for the knowledge you have and are trying to pass on to them. Your students behavior is very inappropriate, yoga is a personal journey for each person and they should not be looking around, leaving their matt or talking during class.

Most places have guidelines people are expected to follow when they decide to join. If these guidelines are not respected the facility does have the right to ask the person to not return.

I am very impresses with what every one has said so far. I do hope for more replies because I have learned something from each one so far. I appreciate all your help…I wish I had thought to post it sooner!