Children's Past Life Memories

Spirituality
#1

This is in response to Surya Deva’s suggestion of Ian Stevenson’s research.

http://www.shamanswell.org/shaman/research-study-childrens-claims-past-lives

What sorta terrified me is the statement that 70 percent of kids recall death by unnatural means!

Many of us agree that children arrive from the whole to this world, and that they are yet to be colonized by the viral infection of culture and language, so to speak. What do you think of this reincarnation study and of children remembering their past lives?

#2

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#3

I was listening to Brian Weiss about 2 days ago and he had mentioned that past-life memories are most prominent within children. They remember incidences from their past but are most often ignored by their parents. Many children even go into highly-intelligent details about say a machine that only an adult with hands on experience would know. From what I gathered, more media will be posed on this concept and I think it’ll come into the lime light faster than we realize.

#4

The trouble is, even someone claims a child has described something they can’t possibly know, it is nearly impossible to verify this. Is the parent making it up or feeding it to the kid. Did the kid read it somewhere. Or did someone tell them a story or describe something to them which they later recount. I’m not saying it isn’t possible. It makes sense based on my own experience, that it’s possible. It’s just impossible to verify 100%.
A researcher can do a study, a respected whoever can write a book, videos can be made. But it’s just too easy to fake, or plant things in their heads, or miss things.
And more generally, as with so-called Indigo children, I would say the same.
It’s such a broad and fluid concept, that every other parent these days seems to think their kids are Indigo.
Does it mean a gifted artist or musician? Does it mean intuitive? How intuitive? Does it mean able to speak wise words?
I love children, don’t get me wrong.
And no question some are extremely gifted.
I’m just not as fast to jump on the children as pure (ie. closer to Truth) bandwagon.
I think the notion that they are more pure (closer to True Nature) the younger they are, and then “lose it” as they get older and are conditioned etc, is not accurate.
The fact is most kids have no clue about True Nature/Natural State, at least not in a clear conscious way, and those that do (or claim to) seem to “lose it” and then come back to it later on. To me, if it’s authentic, there must be a clear and conscious embodiment of Presence (insert whatever name you like) - and that is rarely seen in children. I think we confuse cute, innocent, spontaneous, with wisdom and purity.
I think from a spiritual standpoint, it makes more sense to see older/wiser people as more pure and close to God. I’m not trying to rock the boat or be a party pooper, just wanted to insert a different POV on the whole Indigo/Pure children thing. And yes, my mother did hold me as a child : )

#5

“Reincarnation exists only so long as there is ignorance. There is really no reincarnation at all, either now or before.” ~Ramana Maharshi

“Does a wave in the ocean ever reincarnate? Once it settles back down to its source does it ever appear again? Was it ever separate from ocean in the first place? So what about this body mind is there to reincarnate? See if you can find anything about this body mind that reincarnates. If there is something, you should be able to find what that is. I don’t mean some mystical thing like a soul, which no one has ever seen but only conceptualized about. But what do you actually know? Know yourself as you truly are, eternal, unborn and never dying. And in that knowing the question of reincarnation will drop. Live as you are now—free, unlimited and eternal.” ~Salvadore Poe

“The scriptures say so, but I know nothing about it. I know myself as I am; as I appeared or will appear is not within my experience. It is not that I do not remember. In fact there is nothing to remember. Reincarnation implies a reincarnating self. There is no such thing. The bundle of memories and hopes, called the ‘I’, imagines itself existing everlastingly and creates time to accommodate its false eternity: To be, I need no past or future. All experience is born of imagination; I do not imagine, so no birth or death happens to me. Only those who think themselves born can think themselves re-born. You are accusing me of having been born – I plead not guilty! All exists in awareness and awareness neither dies nor is reborn. It is the changeless reality itself. All the universe of experience is born with the body and dies with the body; it has its beginning and end in awareness, but awareness knows no beginning, nor end. If you think it out carefully and brood over it for a long time, you will come to see the light of awareness in all its clarity and the world will fade out of your vision. It is like looking at a burning incense stick, you see the stick and the smoke first; when you notice the fiery point, you realise that it has the power to consume mountains of sticks and fill the universe with smoke. Timelessly the self actualises itself, without exhausting its infinite possibilities. In the incense stick simile the stick is the body and the smoke is the mind. As long as the mind is busy with its contortions, it does not perceive its own source. The Guru comes and turns your attention to the spark within. By its very nature the mind is outward turned; it always tends to seek for the source of things among the things themselves; to be told to look for the source within, is, in a way, the beginning of a new life. Awareness takes the place of consciousness; in consciousness there is the ‘I’, who is conscious while awareness is undivided; awareness is aware of itself. The ‘I am’ is a thought, while awareness is not a thought, there is no ‘I am aware’ in awareness. Consciousness is an attribute while awareness is not; one can be aware of being conscious, but not conscious of awareness. God is the totality of consciousness, but awareness is beyond all – being as well as not-being.” ~Nisargadatta Maharaj

#6

ray:
There is always the relative and ultimate reality pov in these kinds of spiritual discussions.
Relative:
concept of reincarnation, remember past lives, spiritual progress continues from past lives, etc
Absolute:
What you quote above. That there is no reincarnation, no spiritual progress, no I, etc

And teachers like Ramana and Nis would switch between the two all the time.
For example, one seeker asks Nis if he can sing a bhajan for him, and he happily agrees.
On another day, the same request could be met with a “who wants to sing to who” kind of pointing.

#7

If we reason it out in yoga framework, it is quite easy to see the truth about reincarnation.

Our senses are embedded so deep in the physical body that we are self-hypnotized into thinking that the whole world is physical. On death the body is destroyed and its elements recycled. It is unlikely that the very same body is reconfigured to be born again looking exactly the same.

So, reincarnation may be an astral phenomenon. But astral body also dies and must be disintegrating, leaving behind a causal body. But a causal body has no distinguishing identity. So even if it is recycled back into its astral and physical forms, how come one connect present life with the past? whose past? Life means events or the essence of life?

If memories serve as a proof of incarnation we are taking about something that carries memory beyond the physical. But then memories shed personality and become more and more non-specific. So, life may be possible after life but there is neither need nor any possibility that the latter life should have any one to one legacy with the former. Ray has already quoted the famous analogy of taking a handful water from the sea then throwing it back into the sea and lifting another handful. Would the second handful water be a reincarnation of the former? In generic, broad terms, yes; in specifics, no.

#8

To summarize: It is the circumstances what incarnate. Those which give birth to the temporary, ephemeral identity. The true self does not die, either incarnate. Identify with your circumstances and you will die and rebirth. Identify with the absolute and you will become deathless.

#9

[QUOTE=Triston;85064]ray:
There is always the relative and ultimate reality pov in these kinds of spiritual discussions.
Relative:
concept of reincarnation, remember past lives, spiritual progress continues from past lives, etc
Absolute:
What you quote above. That there is no reincarnation, no spiritual progress, no I, etc

And teachers like Ramana and Nis would switch between the two all the time.
For example, one seeker asks Nis if he can sing a bhajan for him, and he happily agrees.
On another day, the same request could be met with a “who wants to sing to who” kind of pointing.[/QUOTE]

There’s not a notion in human consciousness outside the realm of ignorance (including this one) yet we contemplate the indescribable because it’s blissful to even discuss. They were both very clear and constant on the concept of rebirth, the bidis chain smoker who’s human apparatus expired of throat cancer “N” himself said habits are of the mind/body (bhajan, smoking). Forget two dead brown guys form India the answer is obvious upon examination and within you.

Q: I see you living your life according to a pattern. You run a meditation class in the morning, lecture and have discussions regularly; twice daily there is worship (puja) and religious singing (bhajan) in the evening. You seem to adhere to the routine scrupulously.

M: The worship and the singing are as I found them and I saw no reason to interfere. The general routine is according to the wishes of the people with whom I happen to live or who come to listen. They are working people, with many obligations and the timings are for their convenience. Some repetitive routine is inevitable. Even animals and plants have their time-tables.

Q: You smoke?

M: My body kept a few habits which may as well continue till it dies. There is
no harm in them.

Q: You eat meat?

M: I was born among meat-eating people and my children are eating meat. I eat very little – and make no fuss.

Q: Meat-eating implies killing.

M: Obviously. I make no claims of consistency. You think absolute consistency is possible; prove it by example. Don’t preach what you do not practice.

#10

We’re saying the same thing here.
There is the ultimate and the relative.
The relative doesn’t take away from or change the absolute in any way.
I do think your “2 dead brown guys” comment was a bit odd/disrespectful - also considering you seem to quote them to make a point.

#11

It makes sense that when the body falls the mind falls with it, the memory banks are wiped clean; do you take yourself to be the body, the minds memories, consciousness? Or the every present unchanging pure awareness (for lack of better words) that which illuminates the human apparatus, that which you were before this so called birth, during it’s so called life and after its so called death, the eternal indescribable stillness/silence infinite absolute that is not based in a dualistic time/space. Why place so much meaningfulness or unmeaningfullness on this spec of consciousness, it will cause you to create all kinds of stories to somehow preserve itself, ego the root of suffering…another concept.

Lovingly in a way that is not two.

#12

[QUOTE=Triston;85072]We’re saying the same thing here.
There is the ultimate and the relative.
The relative doesn’t take away from or change the absolute in any way.
I do think your “2 dead brown guys” comment was a bit odd/disrespectful - also considering you seem to quote them to make a point.[/QUOTE]

Disrespect is your judgment (a like or dislike of your human mind); Nisargadatta Maharaj and Ramana Maharshi consistently said not to believe them, the answers can only be confirmed by you, although their description of the indescribably is much more elegant than mine, I don’t see myself separate from anybody or anything.

#13

Besides someday I?ll be a dead bald pasty white Irish guy.