To be challenged you have to accept it. I do not accept your challenge and I can let go of that. Have a nice life.
You do not have to accept my challenge. It only goes to show to me that you cannot rise to the challenge because your position is too weak.
Rest assured, I know my Yoga. So I know that those who practicing only asanas for their physical health are not yogis, no matter how much they insist they are 
Please show me clinical trials that disprove Reiki.
Sure.
Wiki: Reiki
Scientific research
The proposed mechanism for Reiki energy is hypothetical as the existence of the ki or “life force” energy used in this method has not been proven scientifically.[4][114]
A 2008 systematic review of randomised clinical trials assessing the evidence basis of Reiki concluded that efficacy had not been demonstrated for any condition.[4] Nine studies fit the inclusion criteria; a modified Jadad score of methodological quality was used, taking into account the difficulty of blinding practitioners. Non-randomised studies were excluded, as the potential for intentional or unintentional bias in such studies is large, rendering the results un-interpretable. Overall, the methodological quality of the evidence base was poor as most of the studies suffered from flaws such as small sample size, inadequate study design and poor reporting, with even high-ranking studies failing fully to control for placebo effects."[4] As trials with such flaws are known to be likely to show exaggerated treatment effects, there is insufficient evidence to indicate that Reiki is effective as sole or adjuvant therapy for any medical condition, or that it has any benefits beyond possible placebo effects.[4][115] Placebo trials of Reiki are complicated by the difficulty of designing a realistic placebo,[116] although subsequent trials with adequate placebo or sham controls have shown no difference between the procedure and the control groups.[4]
A 2009 review in The Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine found that “the serious methodological and reporting limitations of limited existing Reiki studies preclude a definitive conclusion on its effectiveness.”[117]
Further more, the benefits that have been identified in Reiki are due to the relaxation response a session of Reiki offers, the combination of deep relaxation and the belief of having somebody deeply care for you elicits a feeling of deep relaxation, which is of course beneficial. The previous studies on Reiki which have discovered positive healing effects of Reiki have been measuring this relaxation response. However, recent more advanced studies have found that there is no difference between a placebo, sham and a Reiki session. Thus it makes no difference whether the Reiki practictioner is ‘attuned’ or ‘not attuned’ whether they draw Japanese symbols or cartoons. This is all just fluff added onto a very legitimate scientific process of relaxation.
?symbols or cartoons.
:rolleyes:
Surya deva:
Does this mean you dont believe in healing at all, that someone can transfer his prana to another or take someones blocked energy and work it in him self?
OR do you mean only “reiki” here?
This reminds me of this scene from an old popular TV series. I invite you to unleash your inner ‘Lisas’ at the ‘Rosses’ in the world.
[QUOTE=fakeyogis;73901]Surya deva:
Does this mean you dont believe in healing at all, that someone can transfer his prana to another or take someones blocked energy and work it in him self?
OR do you mean only “reiki” here?[/QUOTE]
I only mean the healing modality of Reiki, I think it is perfectly possible that one can transfer their prana to another, as I believe in every other siddhi Patanjali describes. However, these abilities are very rare and far between and can only be done by very advanced yogis. Which are, as you know yourself, very rare.
However, in Reiki anybody who has paid for an ‘attunement’ can claim to have healing powers. In reality attaining the ability to not only master your own prana but to be able to direct prana to others requires years, if not decades of Yoga practice.
You see my gripe is not with any specifics like self-realization, chakras or even crystals for that matter, my gripe is with the new-age misappropriation of it. Yes, Yoga when practiced fully and regularly with sincerity, will bring you to self-realization, but it will take years of dedicated practice. Not a few hours a day of asanas. In like manner yes chakras are very crucial energetic structures in your body, and by working directly on them you can cure any disease. However, this will take a combination of asanas, mudras, bandhas, kriyas and pranayama sustained over a long time. Instead you hear new age clap trap like to treat a throat issue like hyperthyroidism imagine blue energy entering your throat chakra and chant, “blueeeeee” and wear a crystal like tourqouise. I am not kidding, this is exactly what I was told.
New-age fluff mongers take a good idea, such as quantum physics, Ayurveda or Yoga and dumb it down ridiculously to the point where it no longer has any meaning or value.
@SD. Thought you’d find this interesting.
More Doctors Recommend Reiki
In an article entitled “Reiki: Hype or Help” which appeared in “Discovery Health,” Therese Droste writes about Neurosurgeon Clinton Miller, a former skeptic turned believer. After experiencing a Reiki session, Miller said, “I went from high personal excitation to feeling like I was floating in the ether.” Like Dr. Oz, Miller now prescribes Reiki for his patients.
Then there is cardiologist Dr. Stephen Sinatra, who is also the head of the New England Heart Center in Manchester. Sinatra recommends Reiki to patients when he thinks that an energy blockage is preventing a patient from healing.
Says Droste in her article: “Many healthcare professionals and others are beginning to incorporate Reiki in their treatment of illnesses ranging from asthma to cancer to depression. Reiki sessions are being used for pain management, to accelerate recovery from surgery and reduce medication side effects.”
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Reiki as Complimentary and Alternative Medicine
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Such acceptance from the medical profession is supported by personal experience, feedback from patients and more importantly, by various research studies.
Pre and Post Surgery Reiki
In April 1999, the Journal of Nursing Care Quality published an article by Patricia and Kristan Alandydy on the effects of Reiki on surgical patients. Eight hundred and seventy patients confined at the Columbia/HCA Portsmouth Regional Hospital in Portsmouth, New Hampshire were asked to participate. All the participants were given 15 minutes pre- and post-surgery Reiki treatments. As a result of the Reiki treatments, there was less use of pain medications, shorter length of hospital confinement and increased patient satisfaction.
The effects of Reiki on Alzheimer’s disease have also been explored. An empirical study was conducted, which aimed at exploring the efficacy of Reiki in improving memory and behavior deficiencies in patients with mild cognitive impairment or mild Alzheimer’s disease. This quasi-experimental study showed that “Reiki treatments show promise for improving certain behavior and memory problems in patients with mild cognitive impairment or mild Alzheimer’s disease.”
A paper presented by Mary Ann La Torre, Wardell DW, Engebretson J., at Universtity of Texas Houston Health Science Center in Houston, Texas explored the biological effects of Reiki. The aim of the study was “to test a framework of relaxation or stress reduction as a mechanism of touch therapy (TT).” The study was conducted in 1996 and 23 healthy subjects were asked to participate. It was intended to be a close examination of select physiological and biochemical effects after 30 minutes of Reiki, which was considered a form of touch therapy.
The biological markers that were related to stress-reduction response included: state of anxiety, salivary IgA and cortisol levels, blood pressure, galvanic skin response (GSR), muscle tension and skin temperature. Biological marker levels were measured before and after the 30-minute Reiki sessions. Test results showed that anxiety was significantly reduced. Skin temperature increased and electromygraph decreased during the treatment, although the before and after changes were not significant. It was concluded that the “findings suggest both biochemical and physiological changes in the direction of relaxation.”
Reiki as Biofield Therapy
According to the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine at the National Institutes of Health (which is part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services), Reiki falls under the category of Energy Medicine. It is considered part of a number of healing modalities categorized as “Biofield Therapies which are intended to affect energy fields that purportedly surround and penetrate the human body.”
Reiki is now proving to be very useful in hospices, nursing homes and hospitals. The number of hospitals offering Reiki is increasing. It is now offered in several other hospitals such as Mercy Hospital in Portland, Maine, Wilcox Memorial Hospital in Hawaii, Center for Integrative Medicine at George Washington University Hospital, Tucson Medical Center in Arizona, California Pacific Medical Center, Portsmouth Regional Hospital in New Hampshire, Marin General Hospital in California, University of Michigan Hospital, Foote Hospital in Michigan.
Indeed, Reiki has come a long way since the time it was first introduced in Japan by Mikao Usui -a Japanese spiritual seeker who called it a “natural method of healing.”
Read more at Suite101: Medical Community Embraces Reiki | Suite101.com http://rosannacrogacion.suite101.com/medical-community-embraces-reiki-a225370#ixzz1ukDXa3Aw
You have misunderstood Reiki:
However, in Reiki anybody who has paid for an ‘attunement’ can claim to have healing powers. In reality attaining the ability to not only master your own prana but to be able to direct prana to others requires years, if not decades of Yoga practice.
Reiki is not mastering your prana or guiding prana. You do not use your energy to heal, nor do you take energy. Reiki is guided by a power much greater than the practitioner. Reiki guides itself rather than requiring the direction of the practitioner. The Reiki I practice is directly handed down from teacher to student. It is the traditional Usui System of Natural Healing. It is a technique that promotes stress reduction and relaxation that also promotes healing. In yoga, breath work and asana can be used to heal the body. Research any asana and it will give you a detailed list of physical and emotional ailments that it can address/cure. Reiki is much the same in that Rei (God Consciousness) guides the life force to areas where there is restriction in the flow of energy. When energy is reduced, you are more vulnerable to illness. Reiki helps to free blockages to allow the Chi, Prana, etc to flow freely. When the body/mind is more relaxed, it can heal. Reiki promotes this healing.
You sited Wiki when I asked you for clinical trials that disproved Reiki. What you neglected to address was the first line:
The proposed mechanism for Reiki energy is hypothetical as the existence of the ki or “life force” energy used in this method has not been proven scientifically.[4][114]
Is this not the same life force as Prana in yoga? So, if you follow your own logic, you would also have to dispute Yoga.
If you really research, you will find more and more in the medical community incorporating Reiki as part of a holistic treatment of disease/illness. The more recent studies on Reiki have shown this. If you look to dispute, you will always find something to back your argument, right or wrong. If I look for Planet X (Nibiru) I’ll find lots of sites that tout its existence, pictures and all. If you are only looking for validation of your belief that it exists, you only search to prove your point. I see that there are studies out there that cannot prove Reiki works. Most of these studies are older like the one you sited from 2008.
Stress causes illness. That we know. When we can reduce stress we can achieve a healthier state by allowing the body to heal itself.
The biological markers that were related to stress-reduction response included: state of anxiety, salivary IgA and cortisol levels, blood pressure, galvanic skin response (GSR), muscle tension and skin temperature. Biological marker levels were measured before and after the 30-minute Reiki sessions. Test results showed that anxiety was significantly reduced. Skin temperature increased and electromygraph decreased during the treatment, although the before and after changes were not significant. It was concluded that the “findings suggest both biochemical and physiological changes in the direction of relaxation.”
Stress causes illness. That we know. When we can reduce stress we can achieve a healthier state by allowing the body to heal itself.
Lg, I do not doubt the studies you have cited. What I doubt is your interpretation of the studies. Yes, Reiki is good for stress and studies have indeed demonstrated the efficacy of Reiki in being able to reduce stress. However, the real question is what is really causing this phenomenon of stress reduction to happen, is it:
or is it
We can make predictions based on this: If it is 1 then we will find that if we set up a randomized-controlled experiment with a group using Reiki, a group using pretend Reiki and a group just using normal relaxation there will be a statistically significant difference. Now that is exactly the experiment that was set up in 2008 did. What was found in the experiment that there was no statistically significant difference between the three groups. The pretend or sham Reiki was just as effective as the Reiki group.
Thus from the actual experimental evidence we can only conclude that 2 is the correct explanation. It is simply the deep relaxation one experiences during a Reiki session that brings about the stress reduction effects. The beliefs of Reiki are irrelevant, it makes no difference whether the practictioner is attuned or not attuned, whether they draw the symbols or not.
The relaxation response takes place during any kind of relaxing activity: deep relaxation, Yoga Nidra, Yoga asanas, meditation or listening to soothing music. There is nothing magical, supernatural about the process. Modalities like Reiki basically appropriate a very legitimate and proven scientific process and add fluff to it to sell their product. In the same way so many Yoga brands appropriate a very legitimate and ancient mind-body practice, add their own fluff to it and then sell it as their product.
As consumers of these products we have a duty of ethic not encourage such practices. It is like not consuming pirate ware, products which have been test on animal or involve animal cruelty, or stuff which has been made in sweat shops. We should say NO to products like 'Quantum Yoga, Secret, Law of attraction, Reiki, crystal healing" etc Let us be responsible, rational and mature consumers.
I had a Reiki treatment done this week by a very experienced practioner, whom I love and trust. My first touching treatment (LG did one from afar). I’m not sure if anything material came of it, other than relaxation and a curious sensation in the middle of my forehead.
Lotusgirl, I am woefully ignorant of Reiki treatment. Maybe start a thread to inform those of us who are curious?
Flex,
Reiki has been mentioned and discussed on several threads with much the same info as is mentioned here from both sides. You can PM me with any specific questions you have. Glad you had a positive experience with Reiki!
SD,
Lg, I do not doubt the studies you have cited. What I doubt is your interpretation of the studies. Yes, Reiki is good for stress and studies have indeed demonstrated the efficacy of Reiki in being able to reduce stress. However, the real question is what is really causing this phenomenon of stress reduction to happen, is it:
- The universal god-consciousness energy that those practitioners who have been attuned to receive and work with this energy by drawing magical symbols into the air
or is it
- The deep relaxation one experiences during a session by lying down, with relaxing music, and having somebody massage you, touch you or deeply care for you for an hour.
We can make predictions based on this: If it is 1 then we will find that if we set up a randomized-controlled experiment with a group using Reiki, a group using pretend Reiki and a group just using normal relaxation there will be a statistically significant difference. Now that is exactly the experiment that was set up in 2008 did. What was found in the experiment that there was no statistically significant difference between the three groups. The pretend or sham Reiki was just as effective as the Reiki group.
Thus from the actual experimental evidence we can only conclude that 2 is the correct explanation. It is simply the deep relaxation one experiences during a Reiki session that brings about the stress reduction effects. The beliefs of Reiki are irrelevant, it makes no difference whether the practictioner is attuned or not attuned, whether they draw the symbols or not.
When you give 2 choices like you did in the above, you’ve framed the first choice to look silly thereby making the 2nd choice to look more correct. If God-Consciouness energy is the same as Ki, Chi and Prana how can you deny #1? And make no mistake, Reiki is not yoga. It does however use energy like yoga. So if you dispute #1, you dispute one of the basic premises of yoga.
And there is nothing wrong with my interpretation of the data. I did not dispute the study you mentioned. I merely stated there are just as many studies that show positive results.
In addition, what Wiki also stated which was not in your post is that the National Cancer Society noted that Reiki research is poorly conducted. The National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine also holds the position that energy fields have yet to be scientifically proven. We both believe these fields exist, but science has yet to prove them. The field of energy research does not lend itself to traditional scientific analysis unfortunately.
Reiki as a form of healing is relatively new. As stated in previous posts, more and more hospitals, Doctors and Nurses are incorporating Reiki to treat the whole patient. Hospitals/Centers like Sloan Kettering, Columbia Presbyterian and Dartmouth have incorporated Reiki in their treatment of patients. The U.S. Army has launched a $4 million program that includes Reiki to treat veterans. The Department of Veteran Affairs uses Reiki to treat Hepatitis C patients. And the NIH is currently funding research on Reiki.
Reiki has been around long before “new age” came into play.
And finally, Reiki does relax. It reduces stress. Stress causes a multitude of illnesses/diseases. Reiki is guided to areas of low energy and brings about balance so the body can heal. It promotes healing and balance. And as I’ve said before, I know first hand it works.
When you give 2 choices like you did in the above, you’ve framed the first choice to look silly thereby making the 2nd choice to look more correct. If God-Consciouness energy is the same as Ki, Chi and Prana how can you deny #1? And make no mistake, Reiki is not yoga. It does however use energy like yoga. So if you dispute #1, you dispute one of the basic premises of yoga.
I used pretty much the same description you did:
Reiki is much the same in that Rei (God Consciousness) guides the life force to areas
God-consciousness is definitely not one of the basic premises of Yoga. Prana is a natural force in Yogic philosophy, it is not supernatural. It is a subtle etheric force, similar to quantum forces. In any case I think the term “god consciousness” to describe the word Reiki is misleading, because from what I understand Reiki means universal lifeforce. In that sense it is very similar to the prana of Yoga.
Prana is of various kinds in Yoga: There is the prana in your body, which is subdivided into 5 types of prana based on the primary function it plays. There is also the prana we receive in the air we breath, in the rays of the sun or the prana in the universe itself(equivalent to Reiki) in the food we consume. Working with prana is the ability to manipulate and channel these subtle forces known as prana. Indeed, one of the ways of using this subtle force is to heal another person by directing either your own prana into them, or by directing prana channeled from another source. However, this is a very rare ability, and comes from the mastery of pranayama(literally: prana-control) which takes years of dedicated practice.
Again, as I said the new age tends to take on a very legitimate phenomenon(in this case quantum forces like prana) and trivialize and commercialize it. In this case the notion that receiving an “attunment” will give you the ability to manipulate and work with prana. This makes people believe they can pay their way into gaining mastery of prana control. The truth is, such ability does not come until years of mastery of Yoga.
This is not to say that there have been no genuine Reiki healers out there, who really can manipulate the energy, but I am saying that they are few and far between. The vast majority are just deluded people who have bought into the belief that they are Reiki practioners just because they have received “attunments” The whole modality is based on a sham premise.
And there is nothing wrong with my interpretation of the data. I did not dispute the study you mentioned. I merely stated there are just as many studies that show positive results.
You are not really making an attempt to understand the 2008 study. The studies that have shown positive effects of Reiki have not set up adequate controls and this is why the National Cancer Society etc have said the research has been generally quite poor. The 2008 study is one of the few studies which have set up a proper controlled randomized experiment to really test the efficacy of Reiki by setting up control groups. There were three groups: A Reiki group, a pretend/sham Reiki group and a normal relaxation group. The study showed conclusively that there was no statistically significant difference between the Reiki and the pretend and relaxation group. In other words Reiki did not pass the test. It proved to be no more effective than fake Reiki or normal relaxtion. The evidence is thus showing clearly that whatever benefits one receives from Reiki treatment is because of the relaxation one experiences during a session, but it has got nothing to do with any of the beliefs of Reiki. It makes no difference whether the practitioner is attuned or not.
SD,
You really don’t listen and read what people have written. You repeat the same things!
God-consciousness is definitely not one of the basic premises of Yoga. Prana is a natural force in Yogic philosophy, it is not supernatural. It is a subtle etheric force, similar to quantum forces. In any case I think the term “god consciousness” to describe the word Reiki is misleading, because from what I understand Reiki means universal lifeforce. In that sense it is very similar to the prana of Yoga.
I never said God-Consciousness is one of the basic premises of yoga. The concept of Ki is much the same. God-Consciousness is what guides. I believe I said this:
And make no mistake, Reiki is not yoga. It does however use energy like yoga. So if you dispute #1, you dispute one of the basic premises of yoga.
Rei is god consciousness, spiritual wisdom, universal and Ki is chi, life force, prana. Put them together. Quoting from my book by William Rand, "It is the God-Consciousness called Rei that guides the life energy Ki in the practice we call Reiki."
It is not supernatural.
In this case the notion that receiving an “attunment” will give you the ability to manipulate and work with prana
REIKI PRACTITIONERS DO NOT MANIPULATE ENERGY/PRANA!!!
And the silliness about choice #1 was your writing:
- The universal god-consciousness energy that those practitioners who have been attuned to receive and work with this energy by drawing magical symbols into the air
It was the drawing magical symbols in the air that was silly. While this is true when you use the symbols, they are not called magical. It was how you framed it.
God-Consciousness is not the energy used in healing. God-Consciousness is what guides the energy. (universal, spiritual wisdom)
Finally, the study you quoted stated there was insufficient evidence as noted below:
As trials with such flaws are known to be likely to show exaggerated treatment effects, “THERE IS INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE” to indicate that Reiki is effective as sole or adjuvant therapy for any medical condition, or that it has any benefits beyond possible placebo effects.[4][115] Placebo trials of Reiki are complicated by the difficulty of designing a realistic placebo,[116] although subsequent trials with adequate placebo or sham controls have shown no difference between the procedure and the control groups.[4]
What you are touting as the 2008 study is nothing more than a review of clinical trials. They looked at 9 studies and discovered flaws. Read it again. This was not A study of Reiki. Only 9 studies met their criteria for review and their conclusion was there was insufficient evidence that Reiki was effective. What it didn’t do in looking at these 9 studies is disprove Reiki.
LG, you are obviously not being honest with me here.
I never said God-Consciousness is one of the basic premises of yoga.
But you said:
If God-Consciouness energy is the same as Ki, Chi and Prana how can you deny #1? And make no mistake, Reiki is not yoga. It does however use energy like yoga. So if you dispute #1, you dispute one of the basic premises of yoga.
It is impossible having a discussion with somebody who keeps changing their position.
What you are touting as the 2008 study is nothing more than a review of clinical trials. They looked at 9 studies and discovered flaws. Read it again. This was not A study of Reiki. Only 9 studies met their criteria for review and their conclusion was there was insufficient evidence that Reiki was effective. What it didn’t do in looking at these 9 studies is disprove Reiki.
Again, you are not being honest with me here. The study I cited was not a review of clinical trials, but a randomized controlled experiment using three groups: a Reiki group, a sham group and a normal relaxation group. It is cited in the quote you cited:
although subsequent trials with adequate placebo or sham controls have shown no difference between the procedure and the control groups.
It seems like you are in denial LG. Why are you making this more difficult than it is? The fact is Reiki has not stood up to experimental testing. It is proven to be no more effective than a placebo.
To add: It is misrepresentative of the theory of Reiki to keep calling Reiki god-consciousness, it gives people a misleading impression that the Reiki system believes in god. The Reiki people believe in universal energy or universal life force and believe it can be received and transmitted:
Reiki (霊気?, English pronunciation: /ˈreɪkiː/) is a spiritual practice[1] developed in 1922 by Japanese Buddhist Mikao Usui, which since has been adapted by various teachers of varying traditions. It uses a technique commonly called palm healing or hands on healing as a form of complementary therapy and is sometimes classified as oriental medicine by some professional medical bodies.[2] Through the use of this technique, practitioners believe that they are transferring universal energy (i.e., reiki) in the form of ki through the palms, which allows for self-healing and a state of equilibrium.[3]
Ki, Chi and Prana are equivalent. Reiki is what in Yoga would be called mahaprana or mahashakti
Surya deva you dont need years or decades of pratice to heal. If you have a pure heart and believe in your self also you can do it. How can we do it you might ask?
First do pranayama to raise your energylevel also abstain from sex for a longer period of time. Then also have faith in that you are a channel of that lifeforce going trough you. Never believe it is you who did the healing as this can boast your EGO. And if it didnt work dont give up, there has to be certain coincidences for someone to be healed not all can be that. Probably it could depend on their karma but i leave it unsaid.
Also never forget that what you did in previous incarnation is still there so if you did yogapractice in previous life it does not have to take decades. But all depends on how much progress you did in previous life of course, but as you are here i believe you have done lots in the past. So it does not have to take decades. All can do healing when we become pure. But if we let our ego give us hesitation we create blockages.
[I]Surya deva:
It seems like you are in denial LG. Why are you making this more difficult than it is? The fact is Reiki has not stood up to experimental testing. It is proven to be no more effective than a placebo. [/I]
Some things can not be measured can a scientist measure when a yogi heals someone? no he will say i cant explain what happened it is a miracle.He can not say what happened only that the person got well.
Also we cant do test as all people are not receptable to healing so a study would then fail. It is the timing and coincidences that let healing work. So if we decide a time where there will be a test it would most cetainly fail.
Does healing then not work?
The mind is powerful if you think you are sick you will get sick. Thing is people might have doubt then your prana will correct their energy and the healer will take that energy to him/her self and work through it. A healer always take the problem him/her self. IT does not evaporate in the thin air.
and it can have been the mind in the first place that made their energyfield blocked in or how they lived by unhealthy means… AS i said we all have the power to heal ourself. But if we are controlled by our mind how can we understand who we really are and our capabilities? Also we must have a pure heart, many reiki person maybe does not have that as well as many yogis now adays have tainted hearts. So if we conduct a yogitest it would most likely fail also dont forget that a real yogi would never accept such test his ego has no reason to prove it works… I dont think a real reiki master would agree to be put up to such a test either if it wasnt for the cause of the mankind of course. The truth does not have to advertise it self. It will be known when seen. So if someone have the truth the truth will speak for it self and will be know to others even if that person did not even open his mouth.
And dont struggle of which one is correct, understand we all have different experiences if LG says it works for her, it did how can we doubt that. Even if it was placebo actually if it was placebo she actually must have healed her self. Then it is even greater than getting help from others.
To heal our self we must be calm and in this hectic world is not easy to calm down. if your mind is busy it takes your prana all thoughts requires prana to work. So if we are calm the prana will rise and become more. Which is required for healing. So to learn how to be calm meditation is very effective.
Also it can be so that if our minds is having too much thoughts our prana lowers and we dont feel well because of that, then we only need to raise our prana to get well again.
SD,
Please read this carefully: Then show me where it says it is a specific study with a specific control group designed to prove/disprove Reiki. All you need to do is read the first line! Then read the other bold area. It is not a specific, independent study. It is a review of 9 studies.
QUOTE][B]A 2008 systematic review of randomised clinical trials assessing the evidence basis of Reiki concluded that efficacy had not been demonstrated for any condition.[4] Nine studies fit the inclusion criteria;[/B] a modified Jadad score of methodological quality was used, taking into account the difficulty of blinding practitioners. Non-randomised studies were excluded, as the potential for intentional or unintentional bias in such studies is large, rendering the results un-interpretable. [B]Overall, the methodological quality of the evidence base was poor as most of the studies suffered from flaws such as small sample size, inadequate study design and poor reporting, with even high-ranking studies failing fully to control for placebo effects.[/B]"[4] As trials with such flaws are known to be likely to show exaggerated treatment effects, there is insufficient evidence to indicate that Reiki is effective as sole or adjuvant therapy for any medical condition, or that it has any benefits beyond possible placebo effects.[4][115] Placebo trials of Reiki are complicated by the difficulty of designing a realistic placebo,[116] although subsequent trials with adequate placebo or sham controls have shown no difference between the procedure and the control groups.[4]
[/QUOTE]
Also from the SAME Wiki page on Reiki: Note the word unproven.
clinical trials concluded that “the evidence is insufficient to suggest that reiki is an effective treatment for any condition. Therefore the value of reiki remains unproven.”[4]
You said:
To add: It is misrepresentative of the theory of Reiki to keep calling Reiki god-consciousness, it gives people a misleading impression that the Reiki system believes in god. The Reiki people believe in universal energy or universal life force and believe it can be received and transmitted:
What I said is:
Rei is god consciousness, spiritual wisdom, universal and Ki is chi, life force, prana. Put them together. Quoting from my book by William Rand, “It is the God-Consciousness called Rei that guides the life energy Ki in the practice we call Reiki.”
I have not said Reiki IS God-Consciousness. In Japanese, Rei translates to God-Consciousness, universal, spiritual wisdom. It is what it is and I cannot change the definition. This definition is universally accepted in the Reiki community.
It is proven to be no more effective than a placebo.
This is what the study said: Again, read carefully, especially the words insufficient evidence.
there is [B]insufficient evidence[/B] to indicate that Reiki is effective as sole or adjuvant therapy for any medical condition, or that it has any benefits beyond possible placebo effects.[4][115] Placebo trials of Reiki are complicated by the difficulty of designing a realistic placebo,[116] although subsequent trials with adequate placebo or sham controls have shown no difference between the procedure and the control groups.[4]
Then also have faith in that you are a channel of that lifeforce going trough you. Never believe it is you who did the healing as this can boast your EGO.
In Reiki, it is not the practitioner who heals. We are a conduit of healing. And yes, it can easily be a trap for those without pure intention. Ego takes hold.
You mentioned the Healer taking on the energy of the person they are healing. In Reiki we do not take any energy. We are mere guides.
Nice point:
and it can have been the mind in the first place that made their energyfield blocked in or how they lived by unhealthy means… AS i said we all have the power to heal ourself. But if we are controlled by our mind how can we understand who we really are and our capabilities? Also we must have a pure heart, many reiki person maybe does not have that as well as many yogis now adays have tainted hearts. So if we conduct a yogitest it would most likely fail also dont forget that a real yogi would never accept such test his ego has no reason to prove it works… I dont think a real reiki master would agree to be put up to such a test either if it wasnt for the cause of the mankind of course. The truth does not have to advertise it self. It will be known when seen. So if someone have the truth the truth will speak for it self and will be know to others even if that person did not even open his mouth.
Thank you for your thoughtful post.
This is not complicated.
The experiment was not designed to measure how the healing is taking place, it was designed to see if Reiki was any better than a placebo. The results show it was not. End of story 
What does this mean for us? It means save your money, don’t pay ?60 per hour to some sham artist to heal you, and just listen to a nice relaxing cd at home and you will have exactly the same effect. Also spare yourself the expensive Reiki attunements, they are useless, a waste of time and money.
Also if you want serious recovery from a disease, do not look to Reiki, it is proven to be no better than a placebo. A placebo cannot cure or treat a disease, it only gives an illusion that one is getting better.