[QUOTE=The Scales;61065]So they should not be attracted to thier wives? Or they should be attracted to the opposite sex?
What if there is need of fame and affluence to fulfill thier svadharma? Therefor their motivation for fame and affluence arises from alturism and not from selfish egoism? Those motivated by alturism cannot be guru? Then the question arises. How do you tell from which springs thier motivation? The clever fraud will pretend it’s from alturism - but yet he has multiple rolls royces, and a ‘business’. Which he will undoubtedly have a plausible excuse for.
There are many people who are considered ‘gurus’ - and have many followers - who are not truly gurus. They are usually good actors skilled in speech and the control of others. They ‘sound’ like they know. But they do not.
Dispassion - can be cultivated like any other qualtiy. Therefore anyone can cultivate that quality. Like an actor preparing a role.
If your ‘sound principles’ or "touches you within’ are not based upon truth - but fancy and fiction - when the parrot speaks with words you have identified as truth - but in reality they are not - they will resonate - even if delusion.
A real guru selects you and not the other way around. BUt this can be true of the fake as well - so you see we have a real problem here.
So how do you tell?[/QUOTE]
I had tried to list out the signs of a person whose consciousness is always turned inwards. There could be fakes/ actors as you have pointed out.
One may also trace the lineage or the tradition or the [I]parampara[/I] which has preceded the present person. One could step in where there is a sound [I]“Guru Parampara”.[/I] Sudden independent Avatars may exist, but it would be risky to trust one’s own judgement in this regard.
Also, if after a year, even after devotedly following the instructions of the Guru, one does not experience any progress (at least a small movement towards equanimity), one should consider another Guru.
A real Guru selects, that’s right, but he tests only to find out if the aspirant is ardent, sincere and persistent. In today’s world, an aspirant with such qualities may also approach the Guru.
p.s. If I may ask, have you met your Guru?