Energy body and samadhi

Hello everyone.

I’ve done hatha yoga for several years. Now, I’m concentrating on meditation only. I like to meditate an hour every day. Sometimes more.

I wanted to try an ‘‘experiment’’ and see how much I could meditate in one day. So I tried my best and did six hour in one day.

I did this exercise because I wanted to see how it felt to accumulate a large amount of prana. When I meditate, I feel breath energy comming in my body from all directions. Sometimes I can see it.

I assume I am sensitive enough to feel these things, and I assume more advanced practionners would feel prana accumulating in meditation. In my experience, prana is felt more easily in the practice of asanas than meditation.

I’m wondering also why I’m not feeling deep peace or samadhi. I figure after ten years of practice I should be abble to enter samadhi. Altought I do feel peacefull when I meditate, I cant say I’ve felt divine peace yet.

I’m wondering if any of you have the same problem.

Namaste and welcome to the forum.

Samadhi is not something that will happen to you after ten years of meditation or after ten year of yoga either. Samadhi is that final dissolution that happens after many incarnations of purification and evolution and you might still have a few hundred left, that no one can tell. Samadhi will happen to you when you are ready and that, like the end of the world, nobody can tell you when it will happen.

To answer one of your other questions, for me yoga and meditation is an extremely powerful and forceful combination. I like to do a bit of yoga before I attempt a serious and long meditation.

Hope this asnwers some of your questions. :slight_smile:

Thanks Pandara

Yes yoga and meditation is a good mix.

Just shooting blindly …

Can it be that the inflowing prana was there before just you did not realize it ? Can you say for sure that it was not there before your practice has been started ? I think it is there for everyone, just most of us do not realize it.
About samadhi … I’d say, focus on what happens with you now.

How is your yama and niyama practice going ?

PS. Let go the need for that achievement. (samadhi) Let go what you have learnt about what should you expect.

Yes the energy was always there. Like is says in the books.

About yama and niyama, what I know is that they refer more to our behaviors. I can says on that part that I try to act spontaniously. I dont stress on being good or being bad either… I’m in the middle.

Yama and niyama is about ordering, cleaning manomaya kosha. Some petals of the chakras are created-activated by such a practice. They are necessary to really see clearly on the higher planes. At least this is what I have learnt.

Perhaps you should read this. I found it very helpful. Perhaps you passed this stage, perhaps not, I don’t know. For me it seems like it requires a lifetime (maybe more) to accomplish what’s written there.

Hi Hubert

I’ve read about yama and niyama before. But its been a while. So i’m not very familiar with it. I’ll check out your link. Thanks.

a thought,
pandara and hubert you talk about it taking a long time or even lifetimes to obtain samadhi. Maybe this is true, but I ask, is this set in stone, is this a fact? If you believe it will take a long time or lifetimes then you are adding to that and you may be delaying that in yourselves or in the collective consciousness. Quantam leaps can occur at any moment for unknown, or maybe known reasons. I do not know it all, at times I thought I did :wink: I just felt I would throw it out there.

What you says is true, sudden shifts and transformations can occur spontaniously, for no apparent reason. There have been cases of individuals attainning enlightment (Like the one Buddha attained after many years) for no particular reasons, without any trainning.

But, I wouldn’t count on spontanious achievements.

[quote=justwannabe;15518]a thought,
pandara and hubert you talk about it taking a long time or even lifetimes to obtain samadhi. Maybe this is true, but I ask, is this set in stone, is this a fact? If you believe it will take a long time or lifetimes then you are adding to that and you may be delaying that in yourselves or in the collective consciousness. Quantam leaps can occur at any moment for unknown, or maybe known reasons. I do not know it all, at times I thought I did :wink: I just felt I would throw it out there.[/quote]

Dear Neil,

Absolutely nothing is set in stone and nothing is a fact nor the truth, this I have said here on this forum many times before. Find your own truth, all I can do is to offer a reflection of what I have experience or came to know as my truth with the hope that in that someone might find a reflection that rings true for him or her. Most of us here on this forum have no first hand experience of anything, even truth, so all we can do is to reflect the truth of the great ones, books etc who had gone before us until we have that experience ourselves.

Time is a very subjective issue, what might seem long to you might be very short for me. I don’t think a couple of 100 incarnations is that long if I look back on the many past ones I already had, then a few 100 more seems to me so insignificant, like the blink of an eye. :wink: (Blink)

[quote=justwannabe;15518]a thought,
pandara and hubert you talk about it taking a long time or even lifetimes to obtain samadhi. Maybe this is true, but I ask, is this set in stone, is this a fact? If you believe it will take a long time or lifetimes then you are adding to that and you may be delaying that in yourselves or in the collective consciousness. Quantam leaps can occur at any moment for unknown, or maybe known reasons. I do not know it all, at times I thought I did :wink: I just felt I would throw it out there.[/quote]

I must confess, I feel a bit quilty as I often rejected your or somone else’s statements about God, light, love aso, especially if they were made in first person. In that, I was wrong, even if well intentioned.

Sivananda says: think man and man you will become, think God and God you will become.

I have no right to question or doubt anyones good thoughts, as doing this I am acting secpetical, as a non-believer.

What you say, it is true. The mind can have the power to make anything happen. In fact, at a higher stage, as I learnt, the ability to accept anything to happen, be it cows raining down from the sky, is a must. So, yes, quantum leaps can happen, and Peter Pan might pay me a visit. To expect the unexpected, is a very good attitude in our spiritual pursuit.

Personally, I am not concerned by samadhi. For me it is just an uncomprehended aspect of yoga philospophy. By this I mean, I understand the way of how yoga is performed, and what samadhi si described to be, but I cannot really resonate with that, yet. It is data, but not resonating with my heart, yet. So I am not pushing it. I could’nt possibly, it is out of my reach. You may say, these thoughts stop me gaining anything in this direction, yet … I am unable to just let everything go, and make that jump of faith.
While basic aspects of yoga I learned, experienced, and gained results with, and gained some insight into the more advanced ones too, there is so many things for me yet to learn and perform, and do, that samadhi is the last thing on my mind. I did not even start regular pranayama yet. I chose to create a solid intellectual foundation first. I also struggle a lot with personal karma, job, family, friends … so many aspects to improve in them … but there are results. No moral energy is ever lost in the Universe, a great soul said once, so I am confident, and also hope that what I am able to perform will be just enough. I’d say, I am advancing slowly with yama and niyama practice every year.

[QUOTE=Pandara;15527]Dear Neil,

Absolutely nothing is set in stone and nothing is a fact nor the truth, this I have said here on this forum many times before. Find your own truth, all I can do is to offer a reflection of what I have experience or came to know as my truth with the hope that in that someone might find a reflection that rings true for him or her. Most of us here on this forum have no first hand experience of anything, even truth, so all we can do is to reflect the truth of the great ones, books etc who had gone before us until we have that experience ourselves.

Time is a very subjective issue, what might seem long to you might be very short for me. I don’t think a couple of 100 incarnations is that long if I look back on the many past ones I already had, then a few 100 more seems to me so insignificant, like the blink of an eye. :wink: (Blink)[/QUOTE]
INteresting reply brother, I enjoy reading it. I know truth, I am part of existence, that is truth, I exist because of existence, that is truth, The I cannot be sepertate from the whole
Truth as well. However that is my perception of Truth, that is truth to me and may not be truth to you. Now other understandings of truth some of them I may have experienced others I may not have. You talk about past lives as if you have a knowing and future lives the same way. If you have experienced this then I do believe you because I believe you to be a very gueniune person. So this part of truth you seem to know more about then I do. Also, you seem to be very accepting kind, loving and very greatful, so Rock on Brother, keep enjoying the last 10000 lifetimes and the next 1000000 lifetimes. :slight_smile:
love and light to you
Brother Neil

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