Forward Head Posture and how to correct it?

Hi! I just found this forum and I’m glad I did. I used to do yoga quite a bit before a physical problem sidelined me, now getting back into it.

Asking the practicing yogi out there. [B]What are some good yoga poses to correct forward head posture?[/B]

I have terrible forward head posture, where my neck and head leads my body
(In other words, my head hangs low) and I want to correct it. What are some good poses (and for overall improved posture as well?) I know Cat and Cow are good, but what else?

Namaste, y’all!

Hi, Cher! I am also glad you found us.
I’m looking forward to the replies you get for this question; several of our active members understand body mechanics really well (certainly better than I do.)

Thanks Maranatha. I hope to get stronger so I can help people with yoga as well, but that will take time. ; )

Hello Cher,

Welcome to the forum! About forward head: you may need to strengthen the muscles at the back of your neck and stretch the muscles at the front of the neck. That is, tone the upper trapezius and stretch the sternocleidomastoid (SCM). Without having seen you in person, I don’t know whether the toning or the stretching part is the most important. So, why not do both, giving priority to the toning? You could lift and lower your head in sphinx pose or in a neutral cat position. Feel the muscles contract at the back of your neck. Cobra and extended triangle are fine, too. All twisting poses are good for stretching the SCM.

You’re not very specific in your question on general posture improvement. So the short answer is that most yogasanas will tone/stretch muscles that help posture. Yoga practice can also boost self-confidence and this in turn helps with posture.

Please be careful when you pick up your practice again after injury or health problems. Tell your teacher about them, so that she/he can help you to avoid certain poses and modify others. More important: take good care of yourself and pay attention to the signals of your bodymind. And take appropriate action. My “best” students come out of poses earlier than the rest of class and avoid certain poses altogether. That is real yoga!

Thank you Willem. I could use both toning and strength so that helps quite a bit.

: )

Hi Cher,

Do you want to know what i think?

There’s no such things as a good posture to fix this ailment. Because optimally it,i.e yoga, [U]does’nt really work that way[/U] strictly speaking by tailoring poses according to what postural weaknesss are there. This is a n overly- structural approach that that does not taken into account the subtle bodies and their effect on the gross physical body. What we need in my view is an integrated appproach that takes in all the limbs into consideration to optimally get at whatever ails you on whatever level of being . So this mean you need a balanced yoga practice which means ideally if you have therapeutic issues you need alittle bit of pranayama, ideally a little of meditation and a little asana. But less is more. Both in terms of effort and amount. If there is resistance then you need to literally stop- what i mean by that is move the nervous system into the parasymapthetic state. If something part of your gross anatomy is stuck then forcing is likely to make it worse.

And another thing IMO the need to strengthen muscles in yoga is one the big myths out there. Most folks structual problems stem not from muscle weakness but abnormally high muscle tonus( in many cases abnormally high) which in turn is seet by the nervous system, the gross and the subtler still… So if you really want to get to the root of your problem you have to work on all levels starting with the breath, which is the bridge between mind & body, and the mind first.

So i would suggest a balanced practice.Asana is not going to do much if you’ve got some real obstructions going on,in the neurobiology i mean,- it may even makes thiings worse unless you combine movement with breath, ,and general awareness incl. practice of one-pointedness of mind ( otherwise it really is’nt yoga at all- it’s potentially just storing up injures for the future or making things worse)

ideally you would benfit most from a teacher that practices and teaches an integrated apporach, or a highly trained yoga therapist that really knows their stuff which is pretty hard to find in my opinion.

if you look at the body purely as a machine, as western meedicine and science tends to do, then you won’t be tackling it at the root.

so siimple pranayama twice a day 5mins, then add a alittle meditation and asana if that is agreeable.

but in therapeutic hatha yoga unfortuinately it is not as simple as - do this pose for hunched shoulder although the books in the stores will have you believe this can be done- yes it can but it’s not the whole picture. it’s what you can’t see that is much more important than what you can.

if you are really determined to fix your shoulders you need an integrated approach that adresses all the limbs and that means you need pranayam, a little meditation, asana and ideally coupled with a balanced and healthy lifestyle and nutrition.So the latter may be harder to stick to at first but generally means n moderating things that are not serving you , things we tend to do more out of rote habit than anything else. You will find the two, practice & living, will move more in line. Excess sugar,alcohol, feeling depressed, etc etc- these are just examples , and i am not saying you indulge in this but you want to get rid of everything that is not serving you, in order to heal. The body is a great healer if given a chance- it has an innate intelligence that can bring things more into balance… if we know which tools are most apporpriate at any stage or phase of our practice.

If you attend classes , you might want to avoid ashtanga yoga,power yoga and the like , & pick more gentle restorative or traditional hatha clasees. And choose your teacher carefully.Many teachers know how to move the body around but demonstarte little appreciation of the more subtler aspects-cultivating awarenss of this will really bring high dividends.Sometimes the quality of their instruction as to what a student can/should be feeling on a interior level is lacking. They’re just interested in putting you into a strange position. This might work for some, but not everyone.This is not necessarily the case but can be a clue.

Teachers with an iyengar or alignment-based training are generally speaking better than others.And Don’t be afraid to ask them what their trainings/background is aas any teacher worth their salt will not be afraid to tell you.

Hello Core789,

Guess what? I am actually a certified structural yoga therapist and yoga teacher.

I agree with your view of taking a balanced and multidimensional approach. That is what I teach in class and advise to students who see me individually. However, when replying on the web, the above is the best anwer I can come up with. I have been trained in this system of strengthening, stretching and releasing specific muscles following an assessment. That means seeing and touching a student to look at posture, range of motion and strength, and ayurvedic imbalances. I believe that, as part of a multidimensional approach, structural yoga may resolve pain associated with postural imbalances in less than two months of dedicated practice. That is a good first step. Correcting the actual imbalance often takes more time, for example, up to two years for scoliosis.

Hi Willem,

Yes, a multi-dimensional sadhana is best.

I don’t think i disagree with you. Least that is not the intent of my post. Other than perhaps little technical details as to how yoga therapy might work. For exaample some folk may have weak muscles but the emphasis , for most people would seem to be for me more on releasing muscles than strengthening. Some strengthening techniques i feel can make muscles merely tighter. I believe an approach to releasiing a given muscle can be lengthen during contraction.Or engaging the sensory-motor cortex- which draws on focused awareness on what we’re feeling etc. The holistic yoga approach might couch the treatment in different terms though.It does’nt matter what terms we use as long as the treatments work. So i don’t mean to create confusion here by giving advice that might appear to be in conflict with yours. I respect your training and professionalism & compassion and real concern and i believe any student or client would be very lucky to be in your company.

What i remeber reading said somewhere that stuck in my mind, is something like:-

**An authentic healer depends on an authentic relationship between themself and the person getting healed

All the healer does therofre is set up good conditions for the body-mind suibject to heal itself.So all real healing is self-healing.

So that’s why i say it does’nt matter what language or methodology you use say to explain how it works.That it works, is good enough.Though really there is nothing insane about some of these principles It’s just that popular science obsesses itself with the need for logical proof as in intrinsic part of it’s ‘scienftific method’. New science is always catching up and revising what was once popular ,and integrating it, beginning to apply it …every day.

And i’ll admit if you explained to everyone the significane of the subtle bodies, or koshas in classical yoga, on the gross physical body you maybe in danger of using an explanatory paradigm they do not relate to( and they could lose confidence in your method(s) or alienate them). And they might write it off sure as non-sense. After all they can see the serratus anteriro if you show them but if you start taking about prana they might think you’re, for want of a better word, coo-koo. You and I know first-hand that we are composed of definite energy that can alter but how that plays out as a dynamic role in our physical and mentla health is not so clear to the western medical mind.

I think also my use of the word ‘structural’ has a narrower (more critical) definition- i mean by that to look at the body in a grossly mechanistic way. But of course yoga does not treat the body as a machine. or ,if you like,a lump of meat.

Thank you Core, This is too much honor. Its good to see that we agree. I was just confused by the wording. Your post helped me to think critically again about this approach we call yoga therapy. Above all, does it work? And how? It brought my mind a paragraph by Desikachar (Health Healing and Beyond, p 187):

<< And so the qualities we seek in a teacher are a life devoted to practice; evidence that he or she, too, is ever a student of Yoga; a nature that is always truthful; a commitment to the student’s own awareness and possibilities, each in his own terms. And caring - above all, caring. [I]When people arrive at the Mandiram and ask us, “Can you help me?”, the only response we ever make is “I can care”.[/I] >>

The fish pose and jala bhanda where you drive the chin into the neck-I’ve seen it work wonders on kyphosis, I believe that’s what it’s called. Namaste

Cher,
I’d need to see you in person, see how you sit, stand, and move…and ask a few questions about some habits or positions you must sit in for work, etc to make a good recommendation. Normally, there are at least two factors involved; first is a low head position often based on holding it that way for some reason…maybe you are a sculptor leaning over a project or someone looking through a microscope all day, or looking down at a poorly positioned computer (it would be helpful to know). The second factor is that since your eyes will always seek the horizon regardless of head position, when you finally look up - your head will be held forward instead of balanced atop your neck.

In any case, perhaps asking your yoga teacher after class would be helpful. All things being equal, a good effort at a properly aligned Tadasana (mountain pose)could be very helpful (and the least likely to cause injury). Best to do this live with your teacher.

Hope this helps!
Peace,

Kiran

Thanks to everyone for responding. Getting back into yoga with gentle classes and actually saw a improvement in my posture just from doing it one day a week for a month!

I think the trick is to keep at it and ease back into my postures, as I didn’t expect this much improvement in this short a time.

Thanks again!

Hello Cher,

Great to hear you are improving rapidly.

I think it’s important to clarify and reinforce that asana is only a fragment of a protocol (yoga) designed to support your growth - which includes healing. The approach in yoga which first targets the structure of the physical body does not remain targeted there. However it is there that we start since it is on the gross physical level that most human beings can most easily relate right away.

Furthermore, there is a requisite to develop a trust between the teacher and the student and often that trust is fostered by providing some pain relief so that the other tools of yoga may be introduced to, and accepted by a slightly more open mind. Additionally, just as a garden flower does not have the hose turned on full blast neither do we turn the full force of yoga on the neophyte. The garden must be respected both for its strength and its fragility and the watering must be done in integrity with those two concepts.

I would also like to add that strengthening BEFORE aligning merely manifests built-in imbalances. It reinforces that which is already present when many times there is some unwinding to do, then some realigning, and then strengthening.

Gordon