A small group of fringe lunatic Christians protesting an art display of Ganesh, calling him a "Hindu demon".
Video here
http://www.krem.com/news/Hindu-statue-draws-pro-Christian-protestors-in-Coeur-dAlene-123665184.html
More details here
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Pretty ignorant people those who protest against it. There’s even a statue of a Christian saint among the statues. I can’t find a picture of it right now.
Oh look, there go those peaceful and loving Christians.
This becomes funnier when you realize that these are not the gods themselves, per se, but merely representations of an aspect of the Divine.
Shows how pathetic their religion is.
EDIT: I cut out the offensive part of this post.
"Oh look, there go those peaceful and loving Christians. "
No fights broke out or bombs were dropped so yeah, they know how to legally and peacefully protest unlike another Abrahamic cult we know and love…
However “loving”?
Eh, there idea of “loving” is you is converting you.
"Oh look, there go those peaceful and loving Christians. "
No fights broke out or bombs were dropped so yeah, they know how to legally, civilly and [U]peacefully[/U] protest unlike another Abrahamic cult we know and love…
However “loving”?
Eh, there idea of “loving” is you is converting you.
"Oh look, there go those peaceful and loving Christians. "
No fights broke out or bombs were dropped so yeah, they know how to legally and peacefully protest unlike another Abrahamic cult we know and love…
If you ask me, there is no fundamental difference between being violent and saying stuff that incites hatred and violence, unless if the message itself is borne from pure intentions.
In this case, it is not.
Lol yes. Islam.
However “loving”?
Eh, there idea of “loving” is you is converting you.
Only the impoverished ones. And only because they offer them money, education, and food.
But don’t worry. More and more Hindus are becoming aware of what the hell our corrupt, minority butt-rubbing government is doing.
I won’t be surprised if strong political/social/religious movements start popping up sooner or later, as they always have in Indian history.
EDIT: You double posted?
[QUOTE=GORI YOGINI;63065]
Eh, there idea of “loving” is you is converting you.[/QUOTE]
That is the Christian definition of love.
lol.
The Hare Krishnas are a group of Hindus who are just as intent on converting people.
They don’t condemn anyone to eternal hell.
They use terms like “hell” and “demons” too. Eternal hell no, because their sect doesn’t have that concept. But they do have the concept of a very long hell.
[QUOTE=GORI YOGINI;63071]The Hare Krishnas are a group of Hindus who are just as intent on converting people.[/QUOTE]
ISKCON devotees are not hell-bent upon condemning other religions and their gods as demonic and false. I’ve personally been to a Hare Krishna temple more times than I’d care to count and never saw the kind of religious hatred and racism Christians are so apt to think in.
My parents bought several of their books and when I skimmed through them, I found ridiculous amounts of pages dedicated to defending Christianity and Islam.
Might I add that they are a minority group, compared to other Hindu denominations, and the only Hindu group in Indian history to ever proselytize?
Although I strongly dislike this group of Hindus, comparing ISKCONites to those institutionalized necrophiliacs is like comparing Buddhists to Muslims.
[QUOTE=GORI YOGINI;63073]They use terms like “hell” and “demons” too. Eternal hell no, because their sect doesn’t have that concept. But they do have the concept of a very long hell.[/QUOTE]
These terms appear in all translations of Hindu scriptures (especially Puranic) simply due to lack of better English words.
For example, in the Mahabharata there are several references to “lower planes of existence” or “lower planets.” Rather than calling them that, I’ve often seen them translated as “hellish planets/planes” so the audience, often the prospective Hare Krishna convert, can better relate.
You are treating these Hindus as a distinct group of Hindus with a separate ideology. They are not. There is nothing distinguishing them from your average Vaishnavites other than a zeal for proselytization, the Krishna-centric worship, and the ridiculous adherence to Puranic scriptures (unfortunately, they are your Hindu equivalent of Bible literalists).
Even the Hare Krishnas cannot be equated with Bible trumpers. First of all, eternal hell is not the same as a temporary one. Second, hell according the Hare Krishna’s is not for people who do not accept their doctrine, but in the abrahamic religions non believers are send to hell regardless of how well they behaved. No Hindu sampradaya teaches this.
Might I add that they are a minority group, compared to other Hindu denominations, and the only Hindu group in Indian history to ever proselytize?
You are new to studying the history of Hinduism. When you do, you will discover that proselytization did and still does occur, from one Hindu sect to another and from Hindu sect to non-Hindu. I’m not against it if done maturely.
If you ask me, there is no fundamental difference between being violent and saying stuff that incites hatred and violence, unless if the message itself is borne from pure intentions.
There is a huge difference. Still, these people did not call for violence. It was a peaceful, civil, even if annoying, protest.
They know how to do it right, even if I disagree with them.
That’s called “civil society”.
It’s called hypocrite society, since their was also a statue of a Christian saint.
You are new to studying the history of Hinduism. When you do, you will discover that proselytization did and still does occur, from one Hindu sect to another and from Hindu sect to non-Hindu. I’m not against it if done maturely.
No I’m not. There is no [B]established[/B] doctrine of proselytization in any other sect of Hinduism. In other words, there is no explicit statement saying “I am the only Way” and “Spread my teachings” (or summat like tha’).
Spreading a school of thought and out-debating representatives of other sects, as was often the case in India due to the culture of debate/discussion/diversity, is different from shoving your ass in some place, establishing a church, and restricting the practices of other religions or throwing out pamphlets of “Convert or burn in Hell” and “Our path is true, yours is false”.
There are quite a few reasons Hinduism never spread from the present day borders of India (unlike Buddhism), and the lack of an invasive spirit is one of them.
There is a huge difference. Still, these people did not call for violence. It was a peaceful, civil, even if annoying, protest.
This is a subjective matter. Its just how I view it.
To me, there is no difference in saying something that cause violence later to actually being violent.
Don’t forget that Christians were the most violent and brutal people in history. How’s the Inquisition for ya?
They know how to do it right, even if I disagree with them.
That’s called “civil society”.
Not necessarily.
Having been caught unawares in the middle of a morcha dharna in India (and those are always, always, always comprised of men), and barely escaped with my life, I appreciate the peaceful and civilized protesting of these American women and men.
They of course would chalk their civilized behaviour up to Christianity but I think it has more to do with the concept of “civil society” than religion. Perhaps one sprang from the other, I dunno.
I just fear for the safety of the women who will participate in New Delhi’s Besharmi Morcha (Indian Slut Walk) coming up in a few days.
http://news.oneindia.in/2011/06/18/no-slutwalk-in-delhi-as-besharmi-morcha-takes-over-aid0120.html
[QUOTE=GORI YOGINI;63084]Having been caught unawares in the middle of a morcha dharna in India (and those are always, always, always comprised of men), and barely escaped with my life, I appreciate the peaceful and civilized protesting of these American women and men.
They of course would chalk their civilized behaviour up to Christianity but I think it has more to do with the concept of “civil society” than religion. Perhaps one sprang from the other, I dunno.
I just fear for the safety of the women who will participate in New Delhi’s Besharmi Morcha (Indian Slut Walk) coming up in a few days.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! And there we have the reason for your racism. Poor, stupid white woman faced harsh treatment under the hands of Indians and is now, more racist than ever. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Thinking about how traumatized you must have been and how it must have effected your mental faculties, simply makes me laugh. Are you suffering from Post-traumatic Stress Disorder?
The funny part is that the “Slutwalk” had its origins in Canada! “The march was triggered off after a Canadian police officer caused outrage by stating that women should avoid “dressing like sluts” in order to not to be victimised.”
I told you white people inculcate barbarism where they go!
After trapped for 7 hours every school day for 2 decades among perverted Americans who only have the intellect to talk of matters related to sex, drugs, and porn, I appreciate the dignity and humility that Indians carry themselves with.
The result is not a civil society but a hypocritical one, as Sarva said. I love how stupid feminists support freedom in a very culture that uses this freedom to glorify sexuality, drugs, and what not.
Where on earth did you get the idea that I’m white?!
I made it clear in the intercultural yoga dating thread here that I’m not;
http://www.yogaforums.com/forums/f29/yoga-dating-western-yogis-dating-indians-8393.html
Or aren’t you allowed to go to that thread since you’ve been relegated only to the “religion” one by the site’s admin?