Help Needed on ISHA YOGA

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#1

Hi all,
I would go straight into the issues i Face.
I learn t isha Sakthi chalana kriya in 2004,
I was doing that sincerely for two months .I experienced the following.
1)My Limbs where trembling and was always in a state of fear.
2)My intake of food became very less.
3)I had constant depression.
4)My legs and Limbs and the whole body became rigid and always tired
5)I lost libidio

So i left the practice and started medication and after three yeras evrything became normal.So i tought i will do it again and i’m doing it for a month and my expereiece has started again.Can anyone please tell me what should be done.When i asked an isha vounteer he responded simply by saying Just continue your practices.please help me in this regard

#2

Hi There,

Kriya yoga is extremely powerful and all the symptoms you describe are symptoms of a physical body which is not properly prepared through many incarnations as well as purification practises in this incarnation to handle the explosive energy of Kriya or Shakti. Kriya is not something you do in one lifetime, it stretches over many incarnation and we do a little with each incarnation. Don’t be misled by the promise of many yoga teachers that you can negate nearly half of your karma in one life time with Kriya. If you are not ready it won’t happen, your body will rebel against it, like yours.

To do Kriya you need:
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[li]A body that is properly prepared through years of asana and other sattvic practices to handle the energy. If not preprared depression, anxiety, bodily aches and pains as well as trembles (movement of shakti) will follow. Extreme variations in your body temprature and blood pressure will soon start to follow as well.[/li][li]A teacher/master who can guide you every step of the way and a volunteer who simply tells you to just continue, I frown heavily upon such a person and the credentials of such a person.[/li][/ul]My advice, please stop immediately, search for an able and well trained person and get his/her advise on the road ahead and the prepatory practices you should follow. try to add a normal hatha yoga class to your programme to settle the energies and to restore the balance in your body and subtle bodies.

The fact that you are worried about the disappearance of your libido tells me that you are most probbaly in a relationship or that sex still plays an important part in your life. You cannot practice Kriya without it influencing this aspect of your life. It is clear that you didn’t know this. Again, you cannot just go this alone, if you are in a relationship, you need to inform your partner about this and the influence it will have on your sex life, if you live in sin with your hand, you need to know that it will diminish. If it is going to be a problem to your partner I am afraid you have to decide which is more important - Kriya or sex?

As a last thought: will you go and play with TNT without proper guidance and without a trained person to help you? I guess NO!

Hope this helps.

#3

Dear Pandara[U],
[/U] Thank you very much for your advice.It would also be helpful if you can suggest me some yoga postures to calm the system.

with regards
Baily

#4

Hi Baily,

I would suggest you start with some gentle pranayama to restore balance between the Ida and Pingala Nadis again. I trust you have access to a good yoga teacher or book to look up all the asanas that I will mention here. Back to pranayama, begin a session with some gentle abdominal breathing, about 10 breaths and then just breath normal. You do this in the dead corpse pose or shavasana.

You can do the following asanas, again gentle please and ensure that your body is properly warmed up by doing a few sun salutations or some gentle stretches:
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[li]Simple Supported Back Bend[/li][li]Supported Paschimottanasana (Forward Bend)[/li][li]Supported Sethu Bandhasana (Bridge Pose)[/li][li]Supported Supta Virasana (Reclining Hero’s Pose)[/li][li]Viparita Karani (legs up against the wall)[/li][li]Shavasana (dead corpse pose)[/li][/ul]These are the ones which I prefer most to do as restorative poses, there might be a lot more.

After the last dead corpse pose, you can come up into normal sitting position, back straight and end with a few rounds of nad shodhana pranayama, especially alternate nostril breathing where you close first the right nostril and breath equal breaths in and out and then after about 10 rounds, swop to the other nostril doing the same ending of with normal breathing through both nostrils.

Your breath is mostly the aspect that will bring back the balance for you again and this may take some time, please be patient.

Please let me know how things develop. I want to emphasize the importantce of a teacher here, please see if you can find a teacher to guide you.

Good luck.

#5

Hello Baily,

I am uncertain additional feedback is needed or warranted. Though I will point out that since I have never met a live corpse I find the term “dead corpse” to be redundant:-)

The action (kriya) you mention involves both breath retention and mula bandha (root lock) which is designed to move the wind (vayu) into the central channel of the subtle body (Sushumna Nadi). It is the promise of rapid evolution and the unleashing of kundalini energy that often lures practitioners to do this. That and an utter trust, without the tool of discernment, in a yoga teacher.

This type of action can lead to disruptions in the nervous system for those with vata constitution as well as those who have yet to learn proper alignment of the spine, as it is the hub of the nervous system.

When the student does not first have proper alignment AND does these sorts of actions the energy moves in ways that are “undesirable” to locations that are “harmful”. As my dear colleague points out - please stop immediately.

If the teachers of your choosing have been less than helpful with this very significant issue then perhaps it is time to re-evaluate your selections.

#6

Pandara and Inner Athlete ,
Thank you very much for your Advices.I’m in Uk at the moment .And i don’t have access to any Guru .
But i will surely look for a guru.

thank you very much
With regards
Saci

#7

No, look for a teacher, you’ll have more luck in finding a teacher. You don’t find a guru, they will find you when you are ready. :wink:

#8

Hi you need to be more positive from withen i had attended sadgurus class recently inner engg’ing they said when we do such powerful krias if ur not positive or negative from within it will take you to the extreams. you can visit the ashram or email them with rgds to the poroblem this will help. website is www.ishafoundation.org

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[quote=baily;12319]Hi all,
I would go straight into the issues i Face.
I learn t isha Sakthi chalana kriya in 2004,
I was doing that sincerely for two months .I experienced the following.
1)My Limbs where trembling and was always in a state of fear.
2)My intake of food became very less.
3)I had constant depression.
4)My legs and Limbs and the whole body became rigid and always tired
5)I lost libidio

So i left the practice and started medication and after three yeras evrything became normal.So i tought i will do it again and i’m doing it for a month and my expereiece has started again.Can anyone please tell me what should be done.When i asked an isha vounteer he responded simply by saying Just continue your practices.please help me in this regard[/quote]

#9

[quote=v4vibes;12486]Hi you need to be more positive from withen i had attended sadgurus class recently inner engg’ing they said when we do such powerful krias if ur not positive or negative from within it will take you to the extreams. you can visit the ashram or email them with rgds to the poroblem this will help. website is www.ishafoundation.org

:o[/quote]

Forget about positive, negative, and first just stop hurting yourself.
Dear Baily, Find a sattvic teacher and loving community that know about AHIMSA. Take the advice of Pandara. Listen carefully to what prana is telling you.
Sadguru is inside
Namaste Louise

#10

Dear Baily

My SatGuru Yogiraj SatGurunath Siddhanath goes every year to the UK.
His Organisation the Hamsa Yoga Sangh has a very good support system also in the UK.
You`ll find a list of teachers here:http://www.hamsa-yoga.org/teachers#uk

As soon as the dates are fixed youll find here the schedule of Gurunaths UK seminars:http://www.hamsa-yoga.org/schedule-europe

Please follow Pandaras advice and dont go on with the practise without a Teacher or a Master.

All the best

Ligth and Love
Lars

#11

The reason you faced the problems could be any one or more of the following.

  1. alcohol and heavy spicy food are against the sadhana.
    solution:If you happens to take any of the above leave 48 hrs gap for alcohol and 4 hrs for heavy food.

  2. before commencing the sakthi chalana kriya, sit in any comfortable posture and do slow breathing for atleast 10 min.

  3. after the kriya is over lie on the floor with just a bed sheet and no pillows with face up and close your eyes and relax for 5 min.

This should solve your problem.

This i am telling out of personal experiance.

Shaking of body during kriya means your body is unable to handle the surge in energy.

All the best.

You may contact me if so desired at shivaram.ramatgmaildotcom

Shivaram

#12

hi bailey,
i have been doing isha yoga for the past six years and it has helped me immensely infact it changed me . so when i read about your problems i wanted to help. firstly eating less is not a problem coz especially shakti chalana kriya greatly increases your energy levels and thus your body automatically needs less food…its nothing to worry about…same with the libido…these changes do happen though i havent experienced the same things…other things but not your symptoms…though in the beginning there was alittle shaking and heat produced…that is ususally coz your body cant handel the increase in the energy level but it should settle over time…people are suggested to do hata yoga to make the body more sturdy…but about the other symtoms i am not sure…i hav never experienced that…cud be y are doing something wrong…coz i spent a couplke of months in the ashram and have been involved in isha for the last six years…so you should definately find out…you should contact he ashram through the website and try to get in touch with a teacher or a bhramachari…dont do it till u figure things out… but i suggest you dont give up completely coz its an amazing and powerful kriya…