Hindu, Yoga, Who Cares?

“Rather a sad statement. Shows a complete lack of appreciation of what is the essence of yoga- the spiritual side. If it is only the physical side that concerns one, one is better off as a contortionist.”

People are free to do whatever exercise they want - asana or contortionist.

Sarvamangala, you are confusing a lot of things here;

The real appropiation is done by the Christian yogis and the Kaballah yogis who take a lot from Hindu philosophy, but give it an abrahamic coating. This behavior is very common in the history of the abrahamic relgions, Christianity in particular. Everytime they went on a mission of conversion, they adopted the local customs and integrated them into Christianity. You can see this in african and native american groups who have become Christian. They have kept a lot of their original animistic aspects of their old religions.

The African and Native groups had Christianity forced upon them. They wanted to continue practicing their original religious customs so they continued to do so under a vaneer of Christianity in order to satisfy their Christian colonial masters. That way they were able to fool them into believing that they had completely given up their previous ways.

The new agers who do chakra stuff in order to attain “Christ consciousness” are not traditional Christians and would not call themselves as such nor would they be accepted as anything less than heretics by many Christians who consider themselves “traditionalists” today.

Christ consciousness is synonomous with Buddha consciousness or Shiva consciousness to these folks and they openly talk about how Jesus travelled to India and learned from yogis there. They are not at all unfavorable to India, Hindus or Hinduism.

There is currently a global consciousness of moving towards a “oneness” with humanity and seeing the similarities between cultures and religions while also respecting the differences.

If one wants to remain mired in a sectarian mindset that sees no similarities whatsoever with any other sect, religion or culture, one can do that too. But don’t expect people with a more universal approach to follow suit.

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The African and Native groups had Christianity forced upon them. They wanted to continue practicing their original religious customs so they continued to do so under a vaneer of Christianity in order to satisfy their Christian colonial masters. That way they were able to fool them into believing that they had completely given up their previous ways.[/quote]That is only one part of the story, it went both ways. The natives keeping unto their old ways and the Christians adopting new customs from the natives. In modern times this is also happening both ways, neo-Hindus are adopting abrahamic ways of thinking. This is a very dangerous development.

The new agers who do chakra stuff in order to attain “Christ consciousness” are not traditional Christians and would not call themselves as such nor would they be accepted as anything less than heretics by many Christians who consider themselves “traditionalists” today.
These are the people who are most confused. If they were sincere in adopting yoga, they would not need to cling unto abrahamic conventions.

Christ consciousness is synonomous with Buddha consciousness or Shiva consciousness to these folks and they openly talk about how Jesus travelled to India and learned from yogis there. They are not at all unfavorable to India, Hindus or Hinduism.
They are making up their own beliefs, there is no historical basis for Jesus having travelled to India. This subject has already been dealt with.

There is currently a global consciousness of moving towards a “oneness” with humanity and seeing the similarities between cultures and religions while also respecting the differences.

Indeed, there is a global trend of being politically correct.

If one wants to remain mired in a sectarian mindset that sees no similarities whatsoever with any other sect, religion or culture, one can do that too. But don’t expect people with a more universal approach to follow suit.
Opposing the abrahamic religions and silly new age imaginations doesn’t make one sectarian.

they openly talk about how Jesus travelled to India and learned from yogis there.

The natives keeping unto their old ways and the Christians adopting new customs from the natives. In modern times this is also happening both ways, neo-Hindus are adopting abrahamic ways of thinking.

Yep, globalization is not a new thing. Cultures, societies, religions, traditions, races, ethnicities, languages have been mixing since the dawn of man.

“They are making up their own beliefs, there is no historical basis for Jesus having travelled to India.”

Is there any historical basis for Jesus to begin with? Or Krishna?

Religion itself is basically people making up their own beliefs.

God did not create man. Man created god.

Is there any historical basis for Jesus to begin with? Or Krishna?

No.

Religion itself is basically people making up their own beliefs.

Religion is nothing more than a primitive conceptual framework for explaining natural/other-worldly phenomena and providing answers for teleological speculation.

God did not create man. Man created god.

Yes.

I know a person in India who is really serving Yoga.He is Baba Raam Dev,expert of Yoga techniques and really have grip on Yoga techniques.If you want to learn Yoga with Indian Art then you must have to read him.

some people just like to debate

dogs also like to bark

chickens make noise also

cows moo

its just noise either way

yes, I love to debate…