Holiday

I was on holiday with a lot of Yoga people,mostly women ( whats new ) they seemed to think they were very spiritual,years of Yoga etc etc etc.
However when I mentioned there were 2 wasps nest at home near my front door,they all said the same thing ‘‘get someone in to kill them’’.

Why ? :confused:

Perhaps because there is the potential to die if the nests are not removed?

Being spiritual does not preclude being mindful of your safety my friend. And just because they advised you to remove the nests you need not if you don’t wish to.

Just remember that the wasps do not share your gentle and spiritual nature. They will indeed attack you with little provocation if they feel threatened or smell something they don’t like.

I agree – even folks who are not allergic have reason to keep their distance from wasps. While my instinct (from a safe distance, in autumnal rain) is to wonder if a wasp nest could be removed more humanely, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of it being done. I wouldn’t know how to go about it, or who would have those skills.

Hi Maranatha ,
Thank you for reply,I have lived all summer with them,they don’t bother me and I don’t bother them.

''Just remember that the wasps do not share your gentle and spiritual nature. They will indeed attack you with little provocation if they feel threatened or smell something they don’t like ‘’ quote.

'‘You just do not ‘get it’’ do you ?
I do not mean this rudely,I really mean ‘‘you do not understand’’.
You obviously did not have a childhood like mine.

It has been my experience when someone says “I don’t mean this rudely” they are well aware they are being rude. I take no offense Richard. And of course my childhood was not like yours, we do not share parents and even if we did we are different people and could never have exactly the same experience.

My point was merely that neither you, nor they, are correct. You are merely different. They have a point (wasps are dangerous) and you have a point (they do not bother you). Your decision need not be the same as theirs, but you should not assume because their decision would be different that they are in the wrong.

I am glad you are not bothered by your wasps. I would choose differently as my children have been attacked without provocation and I will protect them at all costs. If I must choose between the safety of my children and the lives of wasps there is no choice at all. This is MY life experience.

Namaste.

At present I am committing “treeocide”. I have cut down thousands of trees in the last six months with my chainsaw. I estimate I will cut down over 100,000 next year alone.

Am I a horrible person? Am I not spiritual? Have these years of yoga been all for naught?

I guess that depends on perspective. The trees I am cutting down are an invasive species here in Hawaii and are killing off the native and endemic species of trees and other plants (and thus animals). I also use what I cut down in various manners that are as environmentally friendly as possible.

Are the wasps native to the area? Do they perform tasks that would negatively affect the ecosystem if they were gone? Do they negatively affect the ecosystem and it would be a good thing if they were gone despite them doing no harm to you? How are you going to dispose of them? Pesticide that could potentially kill beneficial bugs, cause cancer, etc? These and many more are the questions you have to ask before you make a CONSCIOUS decision, otherwise it is an emotional reaction, or at the very least, an uneducated one.

Speaking of emotional reactions, “for the children” is usually exactly that and has done so much more harm than good over the years. Sorry Alix, but if those wasps are native to the area, beneficial to the ecosystem, and were there first, your actions are lacking. LOTS of things are dangerous, but that doesn’t mean we can’t live in harmony with them.

David, you missed the point. Neither person is right, they are merely choosing based on their life experience. Did sharing my life experience imply I was emotionally invested here? It was intended to illustrate my point. I am sorry I failed to make that clear.

Dear Richard,

My yoga teacher used to say to us that the world is your mirror, everything you see on the outside is a reflection of what is going on within you. Wen we experience something that is in contradiction to what we perceive it to be, then we need to look out for the deeper lesson within ourselves. Don’t miss the opportunity to resolve an inner issue my teacher used to say.

What does these ladies and the exclamation to kill the wasps reflect back to you? Have you asked yourself, is it really about the ladies and your perception of their spirituality that has been shattered by their incompassionate killing of the wasps or does this reflect to a deeper issue within yourself that needs your attention?

Just another point of view.

Pandara, I couldn’t agree with you more. Well said, my friend.

I agree with you 100% here.

[quote=Alix;24376]Did sharing my life experience imply I was emotionally invested here? It was intended to illustrate my point. I am sorry I failed to make that clear.
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I understand that your choice to kill wasps is based upon your life experience. Heck, if I had children and wasps attacked them, my emotional reaction would be to napalm every wasp within 20 miles of my home. But that would be an emotional reaction, my emotions would have gotten the better of me. To make a conscious choice, I would have to step back and evaluate a multitude of variables and then act in a way that is not driven merely by emotion. But I [B]DO[/B] understand where you’re coming from. My emotions have been getting the better of me lately (we got burglarized) so it’s not just wasps I’ve wanted to kill. My actions have been lacking.

Fortunately David this is a choice I do not have to make as it is not my home that has a wasp nest near it.

Richard – Wow, I just re-read your initial post. I need to read more slowly still. Yes, for someone to tell you to kill your wasps (which are at your home and no where near them, and they are not responsible for them) is a fear reaction of the sort that yoga tries to erode.

(we got burglarized) Very sorry to hear that David.