Holy Cow!

Spirituality
#1

The Vedas accord a special and a very high place to the cow.

Accordingly,

Cow is abode of gods.
She is Kama~dhenu (fulfiller of wishes) personified.
Numerous (33 X 100,00,000) Gods reside in the body of a Cow.

…and so on.

Is there any truth is all this? Well it should come as no surprise that the Yogis and the Rishis of the yore were right. These are all truths.

The ancient seers of India had, by yogic means discovered that [B]the cow is the only divine living being that has a surya-ketu nadi, passing through her backbone. This is a unique connection between two centres of her astral / pranic body.[/B]

In today’s language, surya and ketu could be considered as karmic credit and debit centres.

Yogis thus saw and declared the cow as being the [B]receiver and retainer[/B] of the auspicious rays from all heavenly constellations. She contains influences of all constellations. Hence, wherever there is a cow, there is influence of all heavenly constellations and the blessings of all gods.

It is because of this astral connection the cow’s milk, butter and ghee has golden hue, like surya, the sun. This connection also produces divine salts in her blood. These salts are present in the cow’s milk, urine and even dung, which Vedic medicine utilises to cure many diseases.

A few quotes:

A]
[I][B]na kevalam payasa prasutim |
ve hi man kam dugham prasannam ||[/B][/I]

“Whenever I am pleased and happy I can fulfill all wishes.
Don’t consider me to be just milk supplier.”

B]
[I][B]matrah sarva bhutanam
gavah sarv sukh prada[/B][/I]

“The cow being mother of all living entities, gives happiness to all.”

Ayurveda is the branch of Vedas, which deals with holistic aspects of health by using various medicinal herbs. Health means physical, mental and spiritual well being too. Hence, in Ayurveda, the importance of cow and her products are described in great detail.

So let us all have an attitude of gratitude towards this Divine Creature.

Disrespecting the Cow or worse, taking her life for any purpose would constitute ignorance of the highest order, with serious and painful karmic repercussions to all involved in the chain.

regards, anand

#2

Anand,

“The cow being mother of all living entities, gives happiness to all.”

Santa Claus is coming to town.

“Disrespecting the Cow or worse, taking her life for any purpose would constitute ignorance of the highest order, with serious and painful karmic repercussions to all involved in the chain.”

He has arrived - seeing you when you are sleeping, knowing when you are awake.

#3

[QUOTE=AmirMourad;63824]Anand,

“The cow being mother of all living entities, gives happiness to all.”

Santa Claus is coming to town.

“Disrespecting the Cow or worse, taking her life for any purpose would constitute ignorance of the highest order, with serious and painful karmic repercussions to all involved in the chain.”

He has arrived - seeing you when you are sleeping, knowing when you are awake.[/QUOTE]

Dear Friend:

Thanks for picking up the thread. I hope you you are not picking on me.

regards

#4

Anand,

“I hope you you are not picking on me.”

Not on you, just commenting on what you have said.

#5

[QUOTE=AmirMourad;63852]Anand,

“I hope you you are not picking on me.”

Not on you, just commenting on what you have said.[/QUOTE]

I’m looking for inputs on this subject, borrowed or experiential from forum members.

As for me, like many in this country, I have sprinkled cow urine for subtle purification and the place does seem “lighter” after doing this. Many say it’s psychological, but still…who knows…

As regards cow milk, after switching over to this, I have never liked buffalo milk. Again maybe, psychological, but still… who knows…

I have also tried orally consuming small spoonful of cow urine (can I hear yuck!) for medicinal purpose, but since I was never suffering from anything serious, I may not be the right person to comment on this aspect.

Regarding cowdung, well, flat, dried cowdung cakes are available, now at many places all over the world. At sunrise and at sunset, many homes do what is known as “agnihotra”, which is offering oblations (exactly at sunrise and sunset) by means of simple mantras, while burning a small stack made from pieces of this cake and kept in a truncated, inverted pyramidal container made of copper. Experience with this practice is positive in many households (now all over the world). One has to just google agnihotra.

The scriptures assert that if one reads spiritual books in a cow shed (one of the many recommended places), the effect will be many fold, due to the divine vibrations from the cows.

These are examples to show, that in Bharat (India) Yoga is incorporated in diverse physical, mental and inner practices and traditions, so that there is no stone left unturned.

Of course one is free to not adopt any of these practices.

regards
anand

#6

“As for me, like many in this country, I have sprinkled cow urine for subtle purification and the place does seem “lighter” after doing this.”

Yes, many in India also sprinkle water which is mixed with a bit of cow dung as well.

“Many say it’s psychological, but still…who knows…”

Even if it is just nothing more than your own imagination, it does not matter. What is important is not whether it is true or not, what is important is whether it is effective or ineffective.

“I have also tried orally consuming small spoonful of cow urine (can I hear yuck!) for medicinal purpose”

There is no need for that, if you want to experiment with the effects of drinking urine on your system, you can consume your own urine. In yoga - it is known as amaroli, and it is a method which is said to be of tremendous assistance for ones meditation.

“The scriptures assert that if one reads spiritual books in a cow shed (one of the many recommended places), the effect will be many fold, due to the divine vibrations from the cows.”

What scriptures you read for a particular purpose are not important, what is important is the energy which is beneath your reciting scriptures. That is why whether you are repeating the words of the Bible, the Quran, the Torah, the Vedas, the Upanishads, the Pali Canon - all of them work perfectly well even though their languages are different and their philosophies are different. Whether you are repeating a mantra in Sanskrit, or whether you are repeating a mantra in Hebrew or Arabic - again, if there is a certain stream of attention behind it, all work perfectly well. Because what is important is not the words, but ones inner awareness. Depending on your identifications of the mind - different objects will have different effects on the mind. For one person who is not identified with Christianity - repeating the words of the Bible may do nothing for him. For another who is identified with Hinduism, repeating the words of the Vedas may work very well for him.

#7

Even if it is just nothing more than your own imagination, it does not matter. What is important is not whether it is true or not, what is important is whether it is effective or ineffective.

What is that supposed to mean. Sounds like a contradiction in terms. Pray, clarify.

There is no need for that, if you want to experiment with the effects of drinking urine on your system, you can consume your own urine. In yoga - it is known as amaroli, and it is a method which is said to be of tremendous assistance for ones meditation.

When you say there is no need, can you vouch for that? Logically, the two products being different, they would lead to different results.

What scriptures you read for a particular purpose are not important, what is important is the energy which is beneath your reciting scriptures.

I was talking about the efficacy of absorbing that energy represented by the scriptures, while in the proximity of Mother Cow. Has anyone tried this?

For one person who is not identified with Christianity - repeating the words of the Bible may do nothing for him. For another who is identified with Hinduism, repeating the words of the Vedas may work very well for him.

About Vedas, well, they are vibrations “seen” by seers in communion with divinity. So knowing the meaning is secondary or will be “seen” by the aspirant as he ascends in the spiritual path.

Till then it is like a situation wherein if you are told to look up and say “Tu quis es?” and you get a reply “Ego sum Deus.”

regards
anand

#8

Hi,

Do bulls have all that?

What is beef eaters’ karma?

#9

[QUOTE=panoramix;63879]Hi,

Do bulls have all that?

What is beef eaters’ karma?[/QUOTE]

Dear friend:

It is said [I][B]“karmano Gahana Gati”[/B][/I], which would mean, it is difficult to see the exact workings of karma as the network is too complex.

However, the beef eater’s karma is one of the most serious. It is one of the most difficult to undo.

regards
anand

#10

[QUOTE=Anand Kulkarni;63890]However, the beef eater’s karma is one of the most serious. It is one of the most difficult to undo.[/QUOTE]

I guess one shouldn’t drink cow milk produced at industrial facilities neither… right?

#11

[QUOTE=panoramix;63894]I guess one shouldn’t drink cow milk produced at industrial facilities neither… right?[/QUOTE]

What is that?

#12

[QUOTE=Anand Kulkarni;63899]What is that?[/QUOTE]

Well, you know, mass production… cows are crowded together in hangars, without the basic for psychological health…

Stressed and imprisoned.

#13

[QUOTE=panoramix;63900]Well, you know, mass production… cows are crowded together in hangars, without the basic for psychological health…

Stressed and imprisoned.[/QUOTE]

Well, that’s a sorry state of affairs for anyone.

Regarding the divinity in cows, it is supposed to be present in very few breeds, characterised by big hump on the back and a profuse dewalp (neck skin).

Protecting these breeds of cow goes much beyond ahimsa i.e. non violence and animal rights issues.

I am pasting a beautiful picture of one such serene looking vedic cow.

regards
anand

Admin edit - removed direct link to image due to size

#14

Anand,

“Regarding the divinity in cows”

Dividing lines between this and that, the fellow tries to escape from the inescapable.

“it is supposed to be present in very few breeds”

Inescapable, inescapable.

“characterised by big hump on the back”

Camels should hijack cows.

“I am pasting a beautiful picture of one such serene looking vedic cow.”

An ordinary cow, declaring “moo” in the fields, no vedic daydreams dare enter here.

#15

The decision is yours.

#16

Perhaps ones decision should be to conform to reality since truth is not relative?

#17

[QUOTE=Anand Kulkarni;63861]I’m looking for inputs on this subject, borrowed or experiential from forum members.
anand[/QUOTE]

Anand,
Much of what you have posted reads like religious superstition. The cow is the cow. An animal domesticated over thousands of years and used by man for food and labour. How this evolved into worship is not known or understood by me. But, if this belief system allows you to grow spiritually, then it is OK by me.

#18

[QUOTE=FlexPenguin;64117]Anand,
Much of what you have posted reads like religious superstition. The cow is the cow. An animal domesticated over thousands of years and used by man for food and labour. How this evolved into worship is not known or understood by me. But, if this belief system allows you to grow spiritually, then it is OK by me.[/QUOTE]

Dear Friend:

Like you, even I used to discard and even mock this thing about the cow being divine and being just part of religious superstition, born of the necessity of dependence upon her milk.

In fact, I used to question about there being any divinity at all. More so, since academically, I was trained in science, engineering and all that.

Slowly, as a yoga aspirant, this started changing.

Coming back to the cow in particular, my eyes opened when I came to know that the yogis had, in their expanded consciousness seen something in the vedic cow that “made” this apparently ordinary looking creature divine. That something was, as I have mentioned at the start of this thread, [B]a direct connection (hot line) between the sun center and the ketu center of the astral body of the cow.[/B] This connection is named as [I][B]surya-ketu nadi.[/B][/I]

By virtue of this, the creature was seen to be divine because the connection between the giver (sun) and the taker (ketu) produced a kind of a never-ending [I][B]“pranic loop”[/B][/I] that endowed all her products with healing properties. Healing that was deeper than by any other means. Probably at karmic level.

I know several people who have gotten better by cow products. Naturally, they soon started respecting her in a special manner.

So, it is not a question of a belief to be used as a crutch for spiritual advancement. It is a fact that can be verified by anyone with a bit of patience. Or of course summarily rejected.

But wouldn’t such rejection be agnostic?

regards
anand

#19

But I do not reject this. What I do see in the “direct connection (hot line) between the sun center and the ketu center of the astral body of the cow”, as you put it, is a symbol (not a crutch). I see the cow and the sun as the entities that are selected as part of that symbolism. I do not see the literacy, however. The cow is the cow. The sun is the sun. What the yogis are experiencing is something that is deep within them and can be shared, but the language of that experience includes the imagery of the cow and the sun.

At the risk of endangering this exchange - it is akin to the body and blood of the Christ. It is not literally flesh and blood.

Again, I am very open to everything. I may, at some point, see what you see. I do not reject this in the least.

#20

[QUOTE=FlexPenguin;64130]But I do not reject this. What I do see in the “direct connection (hot line) between the sun center and the ketu center of the astral body of the cow”, as you put it, is a symbol (not a crutch). I see the cow and the sun as the entities that are selected as part of that symbolism. I do not see the literacy, however. The cow is the cow. The sun is the sun. What the yogis are experiencing is something that is deep within them and can be shared, but the language of that experience includes the imagery of the cow and the sun.

At the risk of endangering this exchange - it is akin to the body and blood of the Christ. It is not literally flesh and blood.

Again, I am very open to everything. I may, at some point, see what you see. I do not reject this in the least.[/QUOTE]

Dear Friend:

I too at one point thought that this (cow) could be imagery, useful in purification of the mind, [I]chitta[/I], etc.

But after seeing the effects on several persons, I can say there is more to the vedic cow being “just a cow.”

I am glad that you are open minded on this. All I can say is, in case you get an opportunity to serve, tend or feed such a vedic cow, I pray to you, don’t miss it. Gently run your hand along her back several times over. Serve this way for 42 days. Then firm up your opinion.

regards
anand