How can you know the truth about yourself?

Spirituality
#81

“I’m speaking in the singular sense of humanity.”

That is why this Earth that we have created has remained a mess. Everybody has been trying to bring about change outwardly - either through a political movement, or religion, or some kind of activity, but the individual himself has remained in a deep sleep. And the whole problem is that the only means to bring about social transformation is through individual transformation. It is the state of consciousness of the average individual which determines the conditions which are experienced in the society, they cannot be separated. If you are violent, then naturally that violence is going to be projected outwards into the world. If you are asleep, then you just contributing to the same unconsciousness which has continued on this planet for centuries. And everybody is thinking in the same way, that something else other than oneself has to be changed, and one fails to recognize the root of the problem - to take absolute responsibility for one’s own state of being.

#82

[QUOTE=AmirMourad;62028]That is why this Earth that we have created has remained a mess. Everybody has been trying to bring about change outwardly - either through a political movement, or religion, or some kind of activity, but the individual himself has remained in a deep sleep.[/QUOTE]

Concurring; “possibly someday there will not be SO MUCH TROUBLE IN THE WORLD and if it’s to happen it will be accomplished one “being” at a time”, non-duality.

#83

[QUOTE=AmirMourad;62028]“I’m speaking in the singular sense of humanity.”

That is why this Earth that we have created has remained a mess. Everybody has been trying to bring about change outwardly - either through a political movement, or religion, or some kind of activity, but the individual himself has remained in a deep sleep. And the whole problem is that the only means to bring about social transformation is through individual transformation. It is the state of consciousness of the average individual which determines the conditions which are experienced in the society, they cannot be separated. If you are violent, then naturally that violence is going to be projected outwards into the world. If you are asleep, then you just contributing to the same unconsciousness which has continued on this planet for centuries. And everybody is thinking in the same way, that something else other than oneself has to be changed, and one fails to recognize the root of the problem - to take absolute responsibility for one’s own state of being.[/QUOTE]

Bravo, well said1

#84

through trial and error and learning from your mistakes and also very important through meditation

#85

In other news today…

There is no self.

#86

[QUOTE=Nomad_Kamda;63033]In other news today…

There is no self.[/QUOTE]

Thats the third dumbest thing I’ve read so far today.

You shouldn’t take teachings as gospel and spread falsity without fully investigating the matter. The spreading of misinformation is sin.

One of the results of ‘sin’ is the accumulation of obscuring karmas that keep one from knowledge and entrench one more firmly in ignorance…

#87

Nomad,

"In other news today…

There is no self. "

Everything in existence can be seen from almost infinite number of angles and perspectives, all a finger pointing to the moon. If you say that there is a self, in certain ways there is. If you say that there is no-self, in certain ways there is not. The very nature of the intellect is that it can only offer an interpretation of things through the senses. If you mean that there is “no self”, in the sense that there is no entity as a self which is separate from the whole existence - or that all of one’s ideas of “self” are just projections of the mind, then yes, there is some truth to it.

#88

[QUOTE=AmirMourad;63090] If you mean that there is “no self”, in the sense that there is no entity as a self which is separate from the whole existence - or that all of one’s ideas of “self” are just projections of the mind, then yes, there is some truth to it.[/QUOTE]

That is all I meant to say. Considering the OP’s question “How can you know the truth about yourself?” That self, which is considered to be the experiencer behind experience, etc., the asker of the question, that entity interacting with reality. That self does not exist, never has, never will. Just thought I’d clarify.

Hope that will not result in the “[I]accumulation of obscuring karmas that keep one from knowledge and entrench one more firmly in ignorance[/I]” because that would really, really suck…:roll:

#89

[QUOTE=Nomad_Kamda;63115]That is all I meant to say. Considering the OP’s question “How can you know the truth about yourself?” That self, which is considered to be the experiencer behind experience, etc., the asker of the question, that entity interacting with reality. That self does not exist, never has, never will. Just thought I’d clarify.

Hope that will not result in the “[I]accumulation of obscuring karmas that keep one from knowledge and entrench one more firmly in ignorance[/I]” because that would really, really suck…:roll:[/QUOTE]

more stupidity

#90

Could you elaborate a bit, Scales?

Curious to learn your perspective on this…

#91

To know the truth about yourself is to unwind everything u have known so far till date. Meaning that to question your very existence that is it really you that reflects in the mirror are you the flesh the body or something different than that. Think if your hands were gone will u still remain the same,further if legs goes also will u still remain,if u change ur facial dimension and body colour so dat u look like a different person altogether will t still remain the same… But whats dat still remains the same. Something inside dat neva changes but u could say its the mind dat remains the same. But if u go further u will see that after so many years passed by your thought process changed drastically your viewpoints your opinions changed but that you dat was there all these years remained the same because after all these changes be it physically or mentally YOU knew u exist and that YOU remained the same. So the first and important step to know the truth is to know dat u r neither the body nor the mind because what changes can’t be real and the mystical YOU dat doesn’t change will take YOU to the real journey of life. And dis first step is to feel inside out dat u r neither body nor mind ,just knowing superficially will not do any good.
To help u get to this point wud be the way u see other ppl when they are sad or happy physically or mentally in the same way u see yourself in every situation unattached. And when u see yourself this way you will know what is seeing what,u will know the difference between seer and the seen. If you r able to complete this first step den the last step is not far away. Take care and be the witness of your action,start with the body and then your thoughts and when you are beyond both then behold something waiting for you,the golden path ready to tread upon.

#92

Lovely…well put

#93

[QUOTE=Seeker33;60625]Listen your heart.[/QUOTE]

Yes, good advise. If I wouldn’t know she’s a slut who beds every newcomer, I would.

#94

And in fact, I do listen to her still. Only that there is still some reluctance in me before I do, as it became obvious.

Thanks for the lesson.

#95

[QUOTE=Nomad_Kamda;63157]Could the scales elaborate a bit?

Curious to learn your perspective on this…[/QUOTE]

no.

  1. DO NOT BELIEVE CRAP YOU READ IN A BOOK. ANY BOOK!
    (I’m not saying “Don’t read scripture” - what I’m saying is don’t take anything as fact until you’ve verified it and even then I’d still be skeptical.)

  2. Stop spreading ignorance. Take up the good.

#96

[QUOTE=The Scales;63289]no.

  1. DO NOT BELIEVE CRAP YOU READ IN A BOOK. ANY BOOK!
    (I’m not saying “Don’t read scripture” - what I’m saying is don’t take anything as fact until you’ve verified it and even then I’d still be skeptical.)

  2. Stop spreading ignorance. Take up the good.[/QUOTE]

Inner vibrations intensify and the tune changes

#97

[QUOTE=kelly0403;63239]Sitting quietly and giving time to oneself can give you clear understanding of what one is[/QUOTE]

I agree but you do not have to sit, any stable position with straight spin.:razz:

#98

[QUOTE=ray_killeen;63293]Inner vibrations intensify and the tune changes[/QUOTE]

no.

#99

“I agree but you do not have to sit, any stable position with straight spin”

That may be the case if you have already integrated a meditative consciousness from moment to moment. Otherwise, one should first practice sitting meditation. Because while you are not in sitting meditation - the mind and the senses can become disturbed by a million and one different things, and because you are not yet capable of remaining mindful and balanced while physically active - it is far better to begin by practicing sitting meditation. Once one has created a solid foundation in sitting meditation, once the mind has dissolved some of it’s habitual patterns - then it will become far more natural to maintain your meditation in daily living. And the deeper one enters into one’s own silence, is the more that silence starts emanating it’s fragrance without even your doing. Then whether sitting, standing, walking, speaking or not speaking, whatever the nature of your action - one’s meditation will be just as effortless as one’s own breath.

#100

That’s a lot of assumptions right there, mate.

What is a self, according to you?