How to Respond to Yoga Haters

So I’ve doing yoga a few times a week for about 3 months now and I’ve really come to enjoy it. I feel like I’ve rediscovered myself and I yearn for my tuesday nights and Saturday morning classes all week.

Unfortunately, my boyfriend gives me crap on the reg - trying to tell me that yoga isn’t really “exercise” because it doesn’t involve a whole of “cardio” – i’ve tried to get him to do it with me – or even do the p90x version of cardio which i’m sure he’d think was “more manly”.

Just a few minutes ago – he sent me a link to this website: thesmugalert.com that has an article making fun of yoga. I’m getting really sick of his crap. Any suggestions?

Yoga is for one-self. Its time has to come. Can’t sell yoga to anyone. Respond to yoga haters with a smile; later, with indifference. If you like yoga, expand it in your life; in many more dimensions than physical. That will need all the energy and time that you will save from responding to the unworthy. My good wishes.

Thanks. I appreciate the support. He just doesn’t get it I suppose. Frustrating. He think it is SMUG

I guess I don’t understand it much, as my boyfriend has been very supportive of me just starting this and deciding to make it a part of my life. BUT do not lose hope. As Suhas Tambe said, just be indifferent. To all their own. This form of activity helps YOU, and that is all that matters. I wish you luck!

Sound like you need a change of boyfriend luv.
If a partner doesn’t inspire you in your practice, then that is not the partner for you.
Sorry to be so blunt, been there myself…

Hi YogaHelps,

I know that type of reaction, not actually hate or so, but I've come across a bunch of people who think it's sorta "gay", for, hm, "pussies" and weaklings. You know, not for tough guys and such. They think that the whole stretching thing would nothing of value for a real man etc. I try to make them understand how awesome it is if your very own body, that you live in, has a much larger range of motion, that even the little things become a whole different quality if your more flexible, like picking up stuff from the ground or tieing your shoes. Also do I show them videos of advanced YogiNis like Iyengar (got some b/w-stuff of him, not what you find on YouTube) or Dharma Mittra. I actually have come to change every sceptics mind so far, but then again, I also only know people that are somewhat reasonable. Some will simply not get it and stick to some sort of clicheeish impression they get from Yoga-teachers like... Rodney Yee and such.

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How to respond?

With a smile. That you feel.

Take your yoga off the mat.

Also do the Namaste gesture and sing some OM, that will surely convince any sceptic. :roll:

Some choose not to waste energy trying to pry open a closed mind.

Some actually do care about others and try.

[QUOTE=Quetzalcoatl;58138]Some actually do care about others and try.[/QUOTE]
Which is why we have a religion forum. A lot of good that’s done.

How much more peaceful would the world be if only we lead by example and help those who want to have what we have instead of trying to convince (or force) others to be like us.

Which, paradoxically, I am on the verge of doing right now.

Therefore, I smile and bow out from further discourse regarding this as I’ve shared my perspective and don’t wish to try and change anyone. :slight_smile:

I once taught some Yoga to some Kung Fu students whom I’d class as proper tough guys. Up to now they remain the most open minded, receptive and humble students I’ve ever taught.

The men who react against yoga I generally find to be the ones whose idea of training, consists of getting drunk and watching sport on TV.

I would be genuine with the boyfriend and tell him that it really does hurt you that he makes fun of something you feel is good and important for you. If he persists, then he truly does not have your best interests in mind, and I have to agree with the poster who suggested maybe it’s time to look for a partner who supports you in what you love.
I know my husband would never ever ridicule something I enjoy if he knew that it hurt me to do so. He never would have, even when we were dating. Don’t get me wrong, he has teased me about many things. But any time I have brought it to his attention that the thing he is joking about is important to me, he will stop.
One who loves you will not persist in something that you have said hurts you.

That said, I have found that the best thing to do when wanting to inform and educate others about how much yoga helps me is to go to my mat and stick with it. Over time, they may come around. I have seen those who see a change in me begin to take interest and ask questions. It’s all you can do. Their path is their own. if it’s not for them, they will not ask.

So I’d like to divide the issue.
Is the issue that you’re not feeling respected by your partner as his behavior appears to be minimizing something important to, and effective for, you? Or is the issue that he does not understand, like, or otherwise care for yoga?

If it is the first, then I would suggest handling it in whatever profound way(s) you as a couple have of handling issues of respecting one another. Doesn’t matter if it’s your yoga practice or washing dishes.

If it is the second, then perhaps a bit of self-study to unearth the deeper intentions for your practice. Typically, at that layer, it is a level of insecurity about what we are doing that opens a door to needing validation from external sources - in this case your partner. The validation of your practice is intrinsic and on this path we don’t need others to come along in order for us to know what is appropriate for OUR path. You are on target for you and that is unwavering unless your heart tells you otherwise.

And there is a third component here which is the well-intentioned coercion of one’s partner to participate in something they may not be ready for. It is nice when one’s partner wants to join in but it’s not requisite or necessary. And I personally would rather have my partner willingly attend for themselves rather than to appease me. But again, it’s nice and I’ve enjoyed it when the experience has been gifted me.

If you deem (inside of yourself) that a partner who enjoys yoga with you in important to your development then give the current one a chance to be that partner of find another.

It sounds like he has crossed the boundary from a couple of “good natured” jabs, about something he doesn’t understand, into a more serious form of teasing and possibly an attempt to control your physical, intellectual and spiritual growth choices. As a father, I would be quite concerned if my daughter’s boyfriend showed this early sign of abusive behavior.

Hi David,

[quote]Some actually do care about others and try.

Which is why we have a religion forum. A lot of good that’s done.[/quote]this is not about your internet-forum.

I give you two examples: I have two very different friends and I told both of them that I started doing “Yoga”. One of them is a very spiritual person, he is a painter and paints a lot of spiritual and socio-critical pictures, he believes in all sorts of religious and new age-stuff, angels, the Mayan calender, reads Castaneda, and so on. When I told him about Yoga, he was all about “wow, great, awesome, I always wanted to do that” and I showed him a couple of things and gave him some videos and suggested him the good ole “Light on Yoga”, and now he’s doing his Yoga. I guess you find this agreeable.

Then I have another friend who is a… motor mechanic and his biggest hobby is his motorcycle. He is not at all interested in spirituality or philosophy, but a very worldy and practical guy, what we have in common is mostly motorcycles and technical stuff. When I told him about Yoga, he was, you know, giving me the dude-that’s-gay-smile, and from his comments it was obvious he thought it was some weakling-stuff for girls. Just like I think YogaHelps boyfriend did. Here I invested even less time to discuss this stuff, as I invested in my other friend giving him information on how to actually start doing Yoga. I told him why many postures look weird and strange, like the triangles for example. I told him that there was hardly another way to hold one’s body to be able to twist the spine, and I told him how relevant a flexible spine is for good health. I told him how we - both around 40 - are approaching “old age” where the body becomes stiffer and stiffer and how we both surely wouldn’t want to end up like all those old people you can see every day, who have immense health problems and have to live with these a quater of their life or even more, which is decades. I told him that many postures look simple and easy, but are actually very hard to do and require a lot of strength, and flexibility. I told him that Yoga-Asanas aren’t only a workout like pumping iron or go jogging, but a more wholistic system, that also addresses the breath, the mind, inner organs, glands, the brain, outer and inner balance, etc. And so on. I took my time to explain to him what Yoga is, because if one “hates” Yoga or thinks it’s for girls only, they suffer from false knowledge.

I could give you another example, my mother. She thought that Yoga would be a lot like religion and that it would not at all be clear that Asanas and breathing- and concentration- and meditation-techniques would definitely work. Told her, convinced her, now she’s doing a bit of Yoga herself too.

Imagine I would’ve just smiled. That’d’ve been better?

Therefore:

How much more peaceful would the world be if only we lead by example and help those who want to have what we have instead of trying to convince (or force) others to be like us.
How would you “lead” them by example? Said mechanic isn’t a bad person, he’s friendly, happy, at peace with himself. What example do you think you could give him? You just happen to know something that he doesn’t and why would you not share your knowledge? How would you be an example? That you are healthy and flexible and strong when you’re 60 while he is not? And then? “Haw haw, told ya!”? No, you have to get them while they’re young. Sure you don’t force anything on them, that’s not working anyway. If one says they don’t care and don’t want to know about Yoga: Fine. But if one expresses a false opinion, why would you just smile instead of curing their desease?

Which, paradoxically, I am on the verge of doing right now.
No, you’re not on the verge, you’re doing just that. To phrase it carefully avoiding imperatives ain’t makin a differenc, D., if you don’t want to change people, shut up. Close this forum. Don’t teach Yoga. Stay at home in your room by yourself.

Therefore, I smile and bow out from further discourse regarding this as I’ve shared my perspective and don’t wish to try and change anyone. :smiley:
Yes you do.

It is a basic misconception that one could change anyone. That never works. You can only provide people with the tools necessary to change themselves. And why would you not want this? Explain! It’s like raising a child, you continously provide them with tools to evolve, you provide them with information to replace false knowledge. That’s how they become capable to transform themselves into who they want to be. With adults it’s no different, and as much as you wouldn’t say you’d just smile at a kid that thinks meat comes from the store and candy would grow on trees, you wouldn’t find a reasonable reason to do that to an adult with false knowledge of what Yoga is.

Isn’t that not true? Oh wait, you bowed out already, after you, uhm, “shared your perspective”. :lol:

General note:

[quote]The men who react against yoga I generally find to be the ones whose idea of training, consists of getting drunk and watching sport on TV.

maybe it’s time to look for a partner who supports you in what you love.

If you deem (inside of yourself) that a partner who enjoys yoga with you in important to your development then give the current one a chance to be that partner of find another.

It sounds like he has crossed the boundary from a couple of “good natured” jabs, about something he doesn’t understand, into a more serious form of teasing and possibly an attempt to control your physical, intellectual and spiritual growth choices. As a father, I would be quite concerned if my daughter’s boyfriend showed this early sign of abusive behavior.
[/quote]What we know is, there’s a guy who makes fun of something he does not understand. Lot’s of guys make fun of Yoga, it’s nothing new. A few lines were dropped by YogaHelps, the “worst” thing was, that the guy linked a website making fun of Yoga, and we have now four suggestion to dump this guy.

Yoga people: Gotta love em…

@YogaHelps:

Maybe your boyfriend is a jerk, but we wouldn’t know. Making fun of Yoga is no big deal and it does not have to be assumed he is a jerk by just that. Guys are guys, yaknow. We play in the mud and come home with bruises. Yoga looks like ballet to us, the P90X-stuff, I’ve seen it, is hilarious in my eyes too. If you need him to take Yoga serious as a “workout”, try showing him stuff like this:






And in general, this has awesome advice about life + is cute to watch:

Here is what you should do

Smile, and accept what they have to say to be true of something, like for example, “Yoga is for gay men and women”

Then Respond by giving the correct information, “Yeah, I can understand why you think Yoga is only for gay men and women, although you would be surprised a growing number of men are doing it as well now, including bodybuilders and athletes. A lot of the health science endorses it as a very effective way to remain healthy. I can personally vouch for how good I feel since doing it”

At this point you have disarmed your critic by first agreeing with what they said and honouring their understanding of it, and politely given a reason why you do it. Most critics at this point will not try to rebut you, they may even want to try it themselves. However if they do rebut you they may say this:

“Alright, but why Yoga and not do something more manly like weight lifting, circuit training or even swimming”

You can respond, “Weight lifting, circuit training and swimming etc are good exercises absolutely, but they do not quite work on the same body in the same way Yoga does. Yoga is more a holistic way it improves ones flexibility, balance, coordination, posture, and general calmness and well being. It is an all rounder. You should try it”

Maintain the smile and politeness and keep acknowledging their understanding respectfully. About 80% of your critics will have warmed to you by now. The 20% close minded critics if they still have not warmed to you and it is obvious that they are not going to even if you provide further evidence, then rebuke them and end the conversation, “I am afraid you are not open minded enough to this to topic for us to continue this discussion, so I would rather we end this topic”

There?s no recruitment in yoga but an openness to share, maintain openness. Consider what Gordon writes since there are three main relationships worth cultivating; arguably the most important one is with yourself because if that one is not successful how are the others going to be? Ironically 90% of the guys attending my class come through P90X?

This post made me laugh because some of what you described sounds just my Fiance and I. I started doing yoga last december and have totally fallen in love with it. I now go about 4 days a week and read and talk about it a lot. My fiance loves to tease me about it and tells me its not real excercise and that weight traning would have more benefits for me physically. He also says it’s just stretching and I too try to convince him to come to one of my classes and try it because I used to think yoga was just stretching too before I started. He refuses to come to a class with me though so whatever. I think it’s important to just laugh it off. I don’t take him seriously because I know he’s just teasing me and trying to get a rise out of me so I don’t give him that benefit (Although sometimes he really gets on my nerves). I know what my practice is to me and no one can convince me other wise. At the end of the day he knows that this is something I love and he does support it. I know this because he has told me he just likes to tease me about it and always asks me how my class was when I get home and has told me before in serious conversations that he’s glad I like it so much and knows it has some benefit to me but it’s just not for him. He wants to get p90x and do the yoga part together so I agreed and I convinced him to try yoga with me at home since he wont come to a class with me.

I’m sure your boyfriend is just teasing you and trying to get a rise out of you. The next time he does it, very calmly ask him “Why do you have to give me a hard time about something I like so much? Can’t you just be supportive of it? You are making fun something you have never even tried or know nothing about.” I said that to my fiance one day it was then that he told me he totally supports it and he just enjoys teasing me about it.