Hello!
I got troubles to make the muslin cloth slide down my throat, even with water.
How can one swallow it? It looks something impossible for me.
Thank you!
I’ve never tried so can’t advise, but I believe you are suppose to soak the cloth in milk first? Have you done that? I don’t really like the idea, but let us know how it goes!
These cleansing methods (Shat Karma) should be done under the guidance of an expert or guru only. If the practice is problematic such that the student needs to inquire over the internet then my advice is to stop.
My recommendation is aligned with what IA has already offered you. You should be working directly with an Ayurvedic therapist for benefit. What should be considered is that the benefits that are available through any of the karmas are available [I]only [/I]if done precisely and properly. If done otherwise, you are quite likely to exacerbate your current conditions and create additional dis-ease; conditions due to wrong practices will only add to your current troubles.
Please use your best judgment regarding attempting these karmas alone or without a well-trained Ayurvedic practioner.
Kind regards,
Hi all!
The problem is that in the region i live in (the land of chops and cider), expert guidance is scarce or better said none.
JenW:
Milk? It’s the first time i hear about this. To my understanding milk should be drank just after the practice. It might be a variant of the practice.
Thank you all.
Hi Panoramix,
where did you learn to do this dhauti? and why do you want it? Maybe there is something else you can do that has results you want?
Do not attempt vastra dhauti without expert guidance ( quote page 501 ; asana pranayama mudra bandha from Yoga publications trust Munger Bihar school of Yoga India)
And what country is that were you live? chops and cider I don not know.
If practice is needed for your sadhana there is always help. Or others will help you find it.
Sending you love and light
Louise
Hi and thanks Louise!
I’m from the north coast of Spain.
The aim of the practice is cleansing my throat and stomach.
Sometimes i feel an stagnated taste/smell in throat, i would like to get rid of those toxins.
Best regards
Dear panoramix,
You can try gargle with mirretinctuur few drops in water ( buy in drugstore).
Or with salted water ( 1 tablespoon/litre)
Chew on leaf from parsley ( if you eat garlic)
What toxins are that? Maybe you need a change in diet? It is best to consult an ayurvedic therapist foor advice on that.
warm greeting Louise
Dear Louise,
Can gargles clear the whole tract?
No gargles will only clean the throat and mouth. That is were the taste is and the smell. Maybe it is not enough. I do not know what toxins you want to get rid off. And where the smell comes from. You have to be more specific for detailed answers. It can be your teeth, your stomach ( acid), the way you eat, do you smoke?
greetings Louise
I don’t smoke.
I feel like there are phlegms/mucus deep in the tract that i can’t get rid of.
Sometimes i also suffer an aggressive heartburn.
As to toxicity, i refer to rotten,little,white food pieces i occasionally find in extracted phlegms.
Dear panoramix,
The white pieces can come from your tonsils (little caves in there hold food) You can gargle them out with mirre or salt water.
Make sure you consult a doctor to know there is nothing serious wrong with your stomach. If you are sure you are oke then you can do the practice of vamana dhauti.( vomiting with salted water)
That will clean the mucus out of your stomach. If you do not know how to do that lett me know. i will sent details for the practise.
love and light
Louise
Thank you louise!
Some months ago the “helicobacter pylori”, the bacteria that causes stomach ulcer, was found in my stomach. I followed an antibiotic based treatment. I occasionally felt a sharp, intense pain inside my trunk, but i haven’t felt it anymore since i did the treatment. Probably it was an ulcer.
Actually i have one omeprazole capsule everyday, that prevents my acid reflux and fixes the digestive disorders i was having for the past three years. It’s been a miraculous discovery!
An ayurvedic doctor in india told me i had a pitta aggravation, i totally agree with him. I’ve always had inclination towards acid reflux, aggressiveness and a demanding mind. The later two were whipped away with my yoga sadhana, but the former persists. I suspect there’s something going wrong with my manipura chakra.
I used to practice vamana dhauti years ago, but i ended up spitting some few blood. I don’t know if that blood came from the stomach or from the rear part of the tongue that i touched to provoke vomiting.
om shanti
Dear Panoramix,
This shatkarma should not be performed for the wrong reason such as getting rid of a bad breath. The shatkarmas, although phisical have very specific spiritual effects and benefits and an unprepared body may not be able to handle the spiritual flow that may result from it.
Tha fact that you cannot do it is for me a sign from your body that this is not the right action for you, so why do you force? Honour the intelligence of you body and find another way to help eliminate your bad breath problems. Bad breath can be treated in other ways, by changing your diet, adding more green and leafy vegetables will assist eliminating bad breath.
Hello Pandara!
It is not a problem of bad breath what i have. I apologize for leading you all to confusion. 
I spoke about an occasional stagnated taste in my throat, but well, i would bet that’s a common issue for many people.
My problem is an aggravation of stomach pitta resulting in digestive disorders. But this is not the reason for which i practice shatkarma. Shatkarma belongs to the hatha yoga program which i’m following. I clean the outer part of my body, so i also clean the inner part. There might be difficulties in the beginning, but as we develop some skill practicing, the kriya is easily performed. Was the first time you rode a bike similar to the last time?
Thanks!
om shanti
[quote=panoramix;12795]Hello Pandara!
It is not a problem of bad breath what i have. I apologize for leading you all to confusion. I spoke about an occasional stagnated taste in my throat, but well, i would bet that’s a common issue for many people.
My problem is an aggravation of stomach pitta resulting in digestive disorders. Then you realy should consult an ayurvedic practicionor and the medication you take will not help you - it will only for a while ( you put agni down) and make your problem worse But this is not the reason for which i practice shatkarma. Shatkarma belongs to the hatha yoga program which i’m following. Then the teachers there should know how to guide you well and i think they are not doing that. Yogasadhana should be ahimsa and sattvic and you have to feel save. I clean the outer part of my body, so i also clean the inner part. There might be difficulties in the beginning, but as we develop some skill practicing, the kriya is easily performed. Was the first time you rode a bike similar to the last time? It is very good to overcome your difficulties and persist in practise but never hurt yourself. The shatkarmas are for creating harmony in the body for spiritual transformation and not for cleaningjob and certainly not for hurting.
Thanks!
om shanti[/quote]
warm greetings Louise
Hi Louis,
There’s no ayurvedic specialist in the region i live in.
I have no Hatha Yoga teacher, i’ve always followed books.
So you think that what ayurveda calls agni is indeed stomach chloridic acid (HCl)? In this case, it is an aggravation of agni what i have.
As to Ahimsa, i totally agree. Never hurt yourself but strive for achieving success.
[quote=panoramix;12813]Hi Louis,
Hi Panoramix,
There’s no ayurvedic specialist in the region i live in.
I have no Hatha Yoga teacher, i’ve always followed books.
So you think that what ayurveda calls agni is indeed stomach chloridic acid (HCl)? In this case, it is an aggravation of agni what i have.
No agni is not the same as HCl. You do have pitta aggravation ( i think do not know for sure) . To stop HCl you will put agni down.Your digestive tract. will get in trouble on the long run, because your food will not be digested like it should if you change pH value of your digestive tract. to much. Change diet is better and please stop practicing dhauti . It is not good to do those things from a book.
As to Ahimsa, i totally agree. Never hurt yourself but strive for achieving success.
Best advice i can think of is read a good ayurveda book from library with food advice for pitta out of balance. Maybe you can also change some in yoga practise. No sunsalutes but slow series with ujjay breath.
But take into consideration i am not an auyrvedic therapist.
Mukunda wrote a very good book on yoga and ayurveda practise. You can read that as well.
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Take care, Louise
Hi Louise,
My diet for the past four years has been sattvic, yogic, organic if possible, and pitta oriented. I couldn’t do it better, truly. I’ve read much stuff about ayurvedic issues.
I will consider and bear in mind finding alternatives for omeprazol.
Thank you!
OM SHANTI
Dear panoamix,
yes i believe you do the best you can
maybe the answer is here that you just have to stop trying so hard then.
sorry i could not have been of more help to you. Wishing you all the best and answers to find soon.
Louise