I have a question about psychic powers / Siddhis?

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#1

Greetings everyone in first place.

Well, I’ve been told that there are ways to awake those called psychic powers (a.k.a Siddhis) almost immediately with some techniques like prayers, visualization and certain psychedelics?.. This because those siddhis are part of us and those techniques only make us aware that we have them or something like that. I hope it makes sense.

Also, is it true that there are siddhis that can make you manipulate time, it means you can travel back in time, go into parallel universes, seeing the future and things like that.

Please don’t judge me, is just that i found this stuff interesting.

Thanks in advance.

#2

Some say this is possible, some say it isn’t. I’m fairly new to Yogic philosophy, but I’ve met people who believe that a serious Yoga practice (all aspects of it, not just yogasana) will lead to such powers. As to whether or not one should practice yoga to acquire these ‘powers’ is a whole different story. I once read a story about two brothers who decided to become spiritual ascetics. Both went off to practice meditation. The first brother practiced because he wanted to acquire powers, the second brother practiced because he wanted to achieve enlightenment. After a while, they met beside a river bank. Wanting to cross the river, the second brother payed the boatman a few coins to take him across the river. The first brother laughed and, having now acquired powers, walked across the water. “You fool!” he said, “We meditated for the same amount of time and yet I am better than you!” The second brother looked at him and smiled and said “The amount of time it took you to learn how to walk across water, I merely had to pay the boatman a few coins…”

It went something like that, I’ve definitely butchered the story.

#3

Thanks. can anyone give me more info, please?

#4

Please, anyone else?

#5

Yes, there are many powers accessible in Yoga. But, they come after a fairly long Yoga practice of lifetime(s). There are no tricks, no short-cuts and no pills in Yoga.

Ordinarily, such creative powers of Yoga always fascinate people the cause of which is a flawed perception. The powers appear magical to those who remain anchored in the physical. First, the beholder of the powers has already traveled a long distance on the yogīk path whose very purpose of life has changed completely. The powers are bestowed under keen watch of the teacher, with strict caveats of use of the powers, either as an investment in further Yoga pursuit or for promoting some common good. Secondly, the kārmik laws still apply. Should the powers be used for any material gains that breed desire, it will attract an appropriate consequence. In that case, a yogī becomes a seeker again and regresses rapidly to find it harder and longer to catch up on the yogīk path.

If one finds this “stuff” interesting, one is at a wrong place with a wrong mission.

#6

There is a very good safe-guaurd built into nature which prevents people from developing siddhis. That is basically to develop these siddhis you need to become adept at meditation. That takes a lot of time, practice and effort, which most people, especially those in pursuit of siddhis, will not commit too.

There are chemical shortcuts such as the use of certain kinds of herbs but these will only open up very low abilities(like clairvoyance) and they are unpredictable and uncontrollable and temporal. Native American vision-quests is a good example of this way of experiencing siddhis.

#7

In the Yoga Sutras, the subject of siddhis is a paradox. On the one hand, Patanjali warns that the pursuit of siddhis is a distraction from the real goal of yoga, but on the other hand, he devotes the better part of an entire chapter to describing and giving instructions for how various siddhis can be obtained. While it is true that certain people may be attracted to yoga by descriptions of siddhis, just as many others will turn away, because some of the descriptions are so unlike anything any of us has ever seen. I believe that the approach to siddhis is one of the things that can help to differentiate the true yogi from the pretender.

I have to admit that a description of siddhis attracted me to yoga, but the story may surprise you. I heard a radio interview with a heart surgeon who was known for doing marathon surgeries - 16 or 18 hours or more - then going back and doing it again the next day on very little sleep. The interviewer asked him 'How do you do it?". He replied, “when I have a day like that, I don’t sleep. I go back to my office and do yoga.” At that point I began to think, maybe there is something to this yoga stuff.

#8

search sadu haridas.
His miracle has been quoted by many western writers.
In 16th century, under strict supervision of king Ranjit Singh.

#9

Not all siddhis are about being buried for forty days or developing occult powers. There are many siddhis described in the sutras where the object is to gain some sort of useful knowledge, like the movements of the stars and the organization of the body. I suggest that, just as it is important for one to develop the mental powers, it is equally important to figure out what to use them for, and that this is related to the Buddhist concept of bodhicitta.

#10

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;68503]There is a very good safe-guaurd built into nature which prevents people from developing siddhis. That is basically to develop these siddhis you need to become adept at meditation. That takes a lot of time, practice and effort, which most people, especially those in pursuit of siddhis, will not commit too.

There are chemical shortcuts such as the use of certain kinds of herbs but these will only open up very low abilities(like clairvoyance) and they are unpredictable and uncontrollable and temporal. Native American vision-quests is a good example of this way of experiencing siddhis.[/QUOTE]

I’ve read about those chemical, i think they are called Ausadhis or something like that?. I think Patanjali talk about them in the yogasutras. I’ve told that siddhis are part of us, we have siddhis, with the time and because of the society we block those siddhis like astral projection, time travel, clairvoyence, kama roopa, etc…
Those herbs remove the mental blocks and obstacles, but this also can be done with Dharana and visualisation techniques.

And i think that the only difference between low abilities and major abilities are in your mind.

I hope it makes sense what im trying to say.

Merry christmas by the way. :slight_smile:

#11

the siddhis develop during samadhi, after kundalini, if you have studied the correct mudras and bandhas. i’m going to make a youtube video about this soon.

generally they give you improved powers of perception as well as energetic powers (i.e. in the astral plane) but not literal physical prowess.

years ago, during samadhi, i developed the ability to see the breath of life; the pranic currents that fill the air around us, rising and falling like the tide. it’s quite lovely.

but it’s a side note, a distraction. during samadhi one must focus on the task at hand and ignore the siddhis.

-dale

p.s. cool forum, glad i joined.

#12

I was reading through one of the Upanishads a few days ago, looking for something else, and I stumbled upon a section that described a specific practice that is supposed to be done for twelve years in order to attain siddhis. Also there is a mantra that you are supposed to perform only at certain times, and this is supposed to be gotten from a guru. I’m a little squeamish about exposing these kinds of things publicly, but if someone wants to send me a PM, I’ll give you the source.

This is different from the Yoga Sutras. Patanjali gives specific practices for specific siddhis. The Upanishad just says that if you do this one practice for twelve years, you’ll get siddhis.

#13

[QUOTE=Asuri;69188]The Upanishad just says that if you do this one practice for twelve years, you’ll get siddhis.[/QUOTE]

keep in mind that the time frames are always because what’s important is the intensity of your effort.

#14

In yoga are two path. (but not ?nly in yoga).
There are yogis who want terminate the cycle of lifes, to that calculated lives in a spiritual worlds too. Similar like buddhists seeking for Nirvana.
There are siddhis a great obstacle.
And yogis who wish to obtain a supernatural powers, and another life in a spiritual worlds - like siddhas or vidyadharas. Similar teachings is in taoists spiritual alchemy (The secret of the golden flower)
Good theoretical book is by Mircea Eliade; Yoga, immortality and freedom

#15

Hi Asuri,
Are you still a member as I would like to write you. My email is hlrsor@googlemail.com

Kumbha

[QUOTE=Asuri;69188]I was reading through one of the Upanishads a few days ago, looking for something else, and I stumbled upon a section that described a specific practice that is supposed to be done for twelve years in order to attain siddhis. Also there is a mantra that you are supposed to perform only at certain times, and this is supposed to be gotten from a guru. I’m a little squeamish about exposing these kinds of things publicly, but if someone wants to send me a PM, I’ll give you the source.

This is different from the Yoga Sutras. Patanjali gives specific practices for specific siddhis. The Upanishad just says that if you do this one practice for twelve years, you’ll get siddhis.[/QUOTE]

#16

almost immediately with some techniques

Never…

#17

@ Frd512
I had taken psychedelics before doing Taoist meditation and nothing but after doing that I can achieve small abilities if I take a good amount. I think they can help you achieve a greater connection to the source of life and the closer you are, the more abilities you get.