Is it safe to awaken Kundalini?

[QUOTE=Seeker33;27411]Dear One, definitely your experience has nothing to do with awakening of Kundalini.

[B]I can identify your experience as overheating of Sympathetic Nervous System / Ida and Pingala Nadi/. Kundalini loves you and never harm you. [/B]

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How does one differentiate between a kundalini awakening and overheating of the sympathetic nervous system?

To clarify, when I said that Kundalini is not “friendly” energy, I did not mean that it is unfriendly. I only meant that it is not attached to your well-being. For people who are relatively mentally healthy, kundalini rising can be a wonderful thing. But if one is not well-prepared for it, or does not have a guide it can be a difficult process.

This Yoga forum it should be real base on their knowledge if any one says that I saw how God is looking I say that every day God comes to my house & he talk with me
some times little bit achievement in yoga make people mad but if we don’t controls our self its goes to wrong direction , some one says that they awaken kundalini but they don’t know the meaning of Kundalini what is the Power

[QUOTE=Goddess Tapping;27429] But if one is not well-prepared for it, or does not have a guide it can be a difficult process.[/QUOTE] Kundalini is intelligent energy and perfectly aware if the seeker is ready for this.

…glad I asked.

siva

I love feeling confused. It means I’m probably about to learn something.

So many people speak of kundalini awakening in authoritative manners. I have had these discussions on other forums and with other people, as well. And in re-reading, I see that maybe mine comes off that way and I have decided that is not my intention. To clarify, for me, I encountered many symptoms of which I had never heard of, did much research and that is the hypothesis I arrived at based on the experience and the research that followed. It is nothing more than an educated guess. Emphasis on guess.

I am unsure what makes one a true authority on kundalini awakening, or to diagnose whether someone has actually gone through it or not or whether they should go through it or not. When speaking of energy, educated guesses are really all that exists based on the information and experiences that are available.

That being said, I have read many stories of people who have suffered from kundalini psychosis and unfavorable symptoms of kundalini rising and it is the one “energetic” illness that has received validation from the scientific community. With all of that information, I just don’t believe it is something one should enter into without much thought, preparation, and guidance.

I have observation only with awakening of Kundalini with Sahaja yoga. For these 20 years I didn’t heard even one case with problems.

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Words are quite obviously inadequate to describe the phenomenon. Experiences and effects vary widely and so comparisons are also not very helpful. From the wonderful and beautiful imagery (as well as the terrifying) descriptions we read, the wisdom and profound understanding of nature and the human body one comes to realize, which are true, it’s very easy for some out of devotion to their desire or expectations, perhaps to conjure it up, becoming trapped by some kind of longing for it. Kundalini is a mechanical, physical dynamic, with a great deal of force and is only subject to the mind and emotions so much as they effect our posture and breathing.

The most misleading terms used in its description are “awakening,” or “receiving.” Mistaken notions of it having some kind of brilliant intelligence like our own are also unhelpful. You could say it has intelligence and a will of its own, but it’s like that of a bowel movement or a cramp, only 1000 times more powerful. Kundalini is not something that just happens like spilling coffee, or that comes over you like a some kind of miracle. It’s not some kind of blessing from heaven or god, but rather is something you DO with a great deal of strength and vigilance. You have to physically MAKE IT HAPPEN.

We know from yoga and Taoism that we are two bodies, ha and tha, yin and yan, or ida & pingala, same thing. We alternate between them, from the moment we leave the womb or flip over in our cribs (if we are so lucky). These two bodies develop separately from one another. One supports and balances the other, more or less, yet they each have a life of their own. Kundalini is a physical-coming-together of these two, ha and tha, starting at the mula and terminating in the crown, although it can also develop partially somewhere in between, as it did with me, and spread in opposite directions, up and down. It happens in coordination with posture and breathing (and their complete development through yoga) and takes a great deal of strength and control to guide, being negotiated internally (imperceptible form the outside) around and between the chakra in a “serpentine,” or wave-like fashion. In fact, you could say it defines the chakra in doing so: chakras being the pivotal points in the crest and trough of the wave.

Once they become joined, they begin to draw together with the force of gravity, of flood, of landslides and freight trains, etc. There is very little you can do to stop them, unless you have that strength and control which you gain through many years of diligence in yoga. If you have blockage or obstruction, something in the way, you will need every ounce of strength and concentration to weave and bob and duck (and pray), like running up a staircase that’s collapsing at the same time. No fun.

And then afterward, if you survive, you do have a different view of the world. You could say you’re in the presence of god, but what does he/she look like? He looks more like reading a book, instead of turning on the TV, more like cooking some lentils, than going out for a burger, more like smiling at your neighbor than ignoring a friend. You see? There will still be bills in the mailbox and life will go on much like it did before, but without the longing.

sorry for the interruption…

correction…chakras are the points in between the crests and troughs of the wave.

Since my initial “awakening,” I have defined sushumna I would say, strongly up to Anahata, and can pull it occasionally up to Vishudra, but I have a spinal fault at L1 that will continue to challenge me. There’s a constant need to go back and strengthen everything along the way, but it’s easier, familiar. I still have trouble sleeping sometimes because of the internal squirming and the breathing I have to do to control it. I don’t know how far it will progress. I can sense it will at some point pass through my neck and into my head, but I’m in no hurry.

peace & blessings,
siva

[QUOTE=siva;27457]It’s not some kind of blessing from heaven or god, but rather is something you DO with a great deal of strength and vigilance. You have to physically MAKE IT HAPPEN.[/QUOTE]Looks like that you are not familiar with basics of Patanjali yoga and this is Sankhya Philosophy.
[B]According Maharishi Kapila, enlightenment is full discrimination between Purusha and Prakriti. All our doings are created from Prakriti. [/B]

Shri Krishna is clear as well:
Bhagavad Gita 3.27
prakriteh kriyamanani
gunaih karmani sarvasah
ahankara-vimudhatma
kartaham iti manyate
[B]Translation[/B]
[B]The spirit soul bewildered by the influence of false ego thinks himself the doer of activities that are in actuality carried out by the three modes of material nature. [/B]

[B]To think that we are doing something is the biggest illusion. [/B]
:roll:

All happens in that which already is. This includes any sensation labeled kundalini awakening. To believe in ones own descriptions and sensations about it, too is a form of missing THAT.

You are that which never changes. You are the same before and after the sensations and ephemeral appearance of what one might call kundalini awakening. You choose your own experience, you shape your own awakening and the feelings that you will have are the result of your own creative power and the power of your interest in your hopes and dreams.

Thus, to see that one is changeless before just as much as after these self-imposed sensations, is true freedom from believing even in your most spiritually created experiences.

Dear one, I am practical person and [B]I don’t believe, I know.[/B]
:slight_smile:

No offense nor anything in particular towards you. Just making a remark in general for the balance of things :).

Love,
B.

Did General Yue Fei open his Kundalini?

[QUOTE=Goddess Tapping;27447]I love feeling confused. It means I’m probably about to learn something.

its better you read patanjali then u undestand effect of kundalini & power of it . its not kundali its another u r in confussion stage .

Maruchi

[QUOTE=Bentinho Massaro;27481]No offense nor anything in particular towards you. Just making a remark in general for the balance of things :).Love,
B.[/QUOTE]We can be in the balance when stick to the Truth.

[QUOTE=samarjit;27513][QUOTE=Goddess Tapping;27447]
its better you read patanjali then u undestand effect of kundalini & power of it . its not kundali its another u r in confussion stage .Maruchi[/QUOTE]
Reading without understanding most of the times create Fanaticism.

hi every body,
there are lots of misgivings about kundalini. I have done research on the subject since my wife took to bed due to serious illness, For about 12 years i am practicing yoga and reading all classical hatha yoga and raja yoga literature where ever i can lay my hands on to.
Kundalini is nothing but a kind of energy more profound than prana, its purpose is to rise along the susmana to clear the three blockages, known as granthies, so that prana can start flowing as these granthies are broken, prana rises up to that particular chakra, there by invigorating those chakras and the seeker gets Siddhies, particularly after visuddhi chakra located at the throat. If you can raise the prana to sahsara than you become jeevan mikta siddha, with all eight siddhies as mentioned by patanjali.
As per classical yoga literature, one gets established in Yoga if on does Yoga four times in a day at prescribed times, minimum of 80 kumbhaks in one sitting.
after about 14 years one can expect to achieve sidddhies provided you are following proper yam and niyams, after his prana reaches the crown chakra.
Its a rigorous practice, unlike what has been said in this thread.
If on has not fully followed Yam and niyam and not got rid of varrties of chitta and some how gets its kundalni woken up than one is asking for trouble.
the lower three chakras have all good and bad feelings, depending on whether you are in sattivk, rajsic or tamsic state. if one has not got rid of say, his sexual desire than kundalini will make you go mad by enhancing that feeling and you will be thinking about sex all the while, it happens when the kundalini rises to the second chakra . similarly for other two lower chakras.
if some one thinks his kundalini as awaken than he is living in fools paradise, because you will either be in a kundalini crisis state or a person with abnormal power.

Dear one, read these Testimonials and then we can discuss again about Kundalini.
http://www.sahajayoga.org/testimonials/default.asp
http://www.sahajayoga.ca/WebsitesTestimonials.html

I am not confused about what kundalini is or what kundalini awakening is. I know what I experienced regarding kundalini and I know as much as I can know about where I am on my spiritual path. Not because someone told me it is what I did or didn’t experience, but because when I surrendered to Goddess, she told me herself.

Above all, I listen to my spirit and surrender to Goddess (God, Supreme, or whatever term you choose). I am not one to blindly follow and put my faith in people, when the spirit is so readily available. Why have a middle man? I just surrender to her and I have had wonderful experiences and growth as a result. At times she leads me to human teachers and when she does, I put my faith in them as a result of my faith in her.

Based on my experiences, when I am confused about something, it is certain a growth experience is on the horizon and that in surrendering to Goddess, my confusion will be cleared.

Rather, I am confused by the invalidation in this thread. No one here is an authority on what one has truly experienced or what one has not truly experienced. While we can have an inner knowing, referred to as faith, it is still ultimately subjective as is the entire human experience.

Samarjit, I am awaiting a book I ordered so that I may read Pantajali. I know that it will help to enrich my understanding of spirit.

[QUOTE=Goddess Tapping;27541]Above all, I listen to my spirit and surrender to Goddess [/QUOTE]This is very wise and consistent with advises of Shri Adi Sankaracharya.

[B]And you are the universe, mother,
There is nothing except you in the world,[/B]
http://www.swamij.com/saundaryalahari.htm