[QUOTE=Nietzsche;49566]Yep. And what happens when those “armies” finance culturally subversive missionary activities in pagan countries?
But of course, this is perfectly acceptable. On the other hand, the response Hindu outrage is not. Bareng chareng sareng lareng kareng.[/QUOTE]
Its passed, that’s why there is opposition, its passed, finished, gone, no more…and does any word really rhyme with Kareng? …I cant find one?
[QUOTE=kareng;49568]Its passed, that’s why there is opposition, its passed, finished, gone, no more…and does any word really rhyme with Kareng? …I cant find one?[/QUOTE]
You have no knowledge of what is happening in India due to your watching BBC. If there was no cultural subversion in India, SD and I wouldn’t be the “racist, bigoted, Hindutva nationalists” you accuse us of being.
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;49571]You have no knowledge of what is happening in India due to your watching BBC. If there was no cultural subversion in India, SD and I wouldn’t be the “racist, bigoted, Hindutva nationalists” you accuse us of being.[/QUOTE]
You’re a spoiled rich kid in the U.S.
You don’t know what you’re talking about
(& too bad you don’t get that as you can’t see past the color of [B][I]your own[/I][/B] skin…) :rolleyes:
Go back to India, get a menial job for a few years, live the life… & then get back to us. This idiotic superior rhetorical drivel is getting old, rich kid.
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;49571]You have no knowledge of what is happening in India due to your watching BBC. If there was no cultural subversion in India, SD and I wouldn’t be the “racist, bigoted, Hindutva nationalists” you accuse us of being.[/QUOTE]
What cultural subversion is happening then?
[QUOTE=kareng;50188]What cultural subversion is happening then?[/QUOTE]
Missionary activity, which causes Indians to become anti-Hindu? Constant terrorist attacks from Maoists and Christians? Separatist movements across India, some of them resulting from the falsity of the AIT? The way India and Hinduism is always denigrated in academia and media?
Have you EVER been to India Kareng? Even my father, who is one of those innocent goodie-goodie Hindus, told me that there was much missionary activity going on in India today (he doesn’t like it).
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;50233]Missionary activity, which causes Indians to become anti-Hindu? Constant terrorist attacks from Maoists and Christians? Separatist movements across India, some of them resulting from the falsity of the AIT? The way India and Hinduism is always denigrated in academia and media?
Have you EVER been to India Kareng? Even my father, who is one of those innocent goodie-goodie Hindus, told me that there was much missionary activity going on in India today (he doesn’t like it).[/QUOTE]
No I haven’t been to India due to my fathers political activities, he was in political exile here but now I might as he has passed…
My father said there is always fighting in India…,just like Britain used to have…
Why aren’t the government policies aimed at relieving the need for missionary work?
What Christians have been fighting in India?, do you mean defending ?
The History of other countries is always limited in education until you get to the higher grades where you choose to study a particular thing…The average person has little knowledge of India and its history. The average person only watches the national news which is geared towards the interests in their country. I bet that is the same in India.
I’ve said this before…there is heavy corruption in India. There’s a lack of information gathering of the right sort to wheedle out the troublemakers…people involved in inciting a riot are swiftly stopped in Britain,.
You let people off the hook in India because of their family name or connections, its corruption…
You said corruption was decreasing, I doubt that, maybe a little but not enough yet…
[QUOTE=kareng;50285]No I haven’t been to India due to my fathers political activities, he was in political exile here but now I might as he has passed…
My father said there is always fighting in India…,just like Britain used to have…
Why aren’t the government policies aimed at relieving the need for missionary work?
What Christians have been fighting in India?, do you mean defending ?
The History of other countries is always limited in education until you get to the higher grades where you choose to study a particular thing…The average person has little knowledge of India and its history. The average person only watches the national news which is geared towards the interests in their country. I bet that is the same in India.
I’ve said this before…there is heavy corruption in India. There’s a lack of information gathering of the right sort to wheedle out the troublemakers…people involved in inciting a riot are swiftly stopped in Britain,.
You let people off the hook in India because of their family name or connections, its corruption…
You said corruption was decreasing, I doubt that, maybe a little but not enough yet…[/QUOTE]
Why aren’t there government policies aimed at reducing missionary activity? Because the government is anti-Hindu. They prey upon the divisions in India to get themselves elected. They frequently flaunt Christian figures and yet make no mention about Hindu figures, especially if they were/are Brahmans. For example, there was this one time where they were commemorating a famous Indian and his achievements. As soon as they found out he was a Brahmin, they stopped. There is a university named after St. Xavier when that asura and barbarian said he would love seeing Hindu idols and Hinduism destroyed after the pagans converted to Christianity.
What Christians have been fighting in India? Lol, in some portions of India they go around Indian villages and force people to convert at gunpoint. But this doesn’t make the headlines of your precious Christian biased Western media. After all, what do they care about a pagan nation? Besides, in Orissa, they, along with the communists, go around killing and converting Hindus. Naturally, the Hindus get angry and retaliated (but too bad only the Hindu retaliations are reported). They have no need to defend themselves fool. They are the ones with the money and the government support. They are the ones who know our weaknesses and know how to exploit them for better harvests. I know this, since I have experienced this directly. I saw, even as a young boy, how a Christian “charity” organization expanded from missionary activity to opening Christian schools which dominated our sector. I even had to go to this Catholic school called “St. Anthony.” I saw how my closest friends were converted and how they quickly became anti-Hindu. They began to cheat, lie more…
You sound as if our education is what is was at the time of Indian independence. Your mind must certainty be addled from your mother’s proselytizing and your father’s gross historical inaccuracies and anti-Indian sentiments. Our poor education is exactly why India churns out some of the highest numbers of honor students, engineers, doctors, and etc. Oh wait, you didn’t know that? I forgot your precious western media doesn’t report anything on a lowly pagan country. And no, it is not the case in India. Most of the people who live in cities are very well educated not only about our history but also on the history of other countries. In my home, I have SEVERAL Indian textbooks on a wide variety of subjects so I sure as hell can tell you that. I Once again, have you ever been to India? No. Where are you getting your information? BBC? Yes, most likely. So I recommend you be silent until you get around to visiting India.
Nope, certainly not “heavy” anymore. Corruption has declined greatly. Back then, my family could have told the police to do anything for them simply with the promises of money. There is no such thing these days. Now, I don’t deny there is still corruption in India, especially on the political level (I am glad our dear anti-Hindu party was caught in a HUGE money laundering scandal recently 
. Maybe our sensible Hindu party can win the upcoming elections) but it is also declining rapidly.
Once again, I am imploring you to be silent until you have visited and extensively traveled India. You don’t know what you are talking about and you probably never will until you stop watching BBC, stop listening to your mother’s Christian brainwashing, and get your father’s decades old “facts” on India out of our head.
By the way, did your father want to create Khalistan? If so, it is no small wonder he was exiled.
india in now the fourth largest economy, after us,china and japan.
check out.
Ugh, sorry for the bad grammar and spelling in some parts of my post.
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;50389]Why aren’t there government policies aimed at reducing missionary activity? Because the government is anti-Hindu. They prey upon the divisions in India to get themselves elected. They frequently flaunt Christian figures and yet make no mention about Hindu figures, especially if they were/are Brahmans. For example, there was this one time where they were commemorating a famous Indian and his achievements. As soon as they found out he was a Brahmin, they stopped. There is a university named after St. Xavier when that asura and barbarian said he would love seeing Hindu idols and Hinduism destroyed after the pagans converted to Christianity.
What Christians have been fighting in India? Lol, in some portions of India they go around Indian villages and force people to convert at gunpoint. But this doesn’t make the headlines of your precious Christian biased Western media. After all, what do they care about a pagan nation? Besides, in Orissa, they, along with the communists, go around killing and converting Hindus. Naturally, the Hindus get angry and retaliated (but too bad only the Hindu retaliations are reported). They have no need to defend themselves fool. They are the ones with the money and the government support. They are the ones who know our weaknesses and know how to exploit them for better harvests. I know this, since I have experienced this directly. I saw, even as a young boy, how a Christian “charity” organization expanded from missionary activity to opening Christian schools which dominated our sector. I even had to go to this Catholic school called “St. Anthony.” I saw how my closest friends were converted and how they quickly became anti-Hindu. They began to cheat, lie more…
You sound as if our education is what is was at the time of Indian independence. Your mind must certainty be addled from your mother’s proselytizing and your father’s gross historical inaccuracies and anti-Indian sentiments. Our poor education is exactly why India churns out some of the highest numbers of honor students, engineers, doctors, and etc. Oh wait, you didn’t know that? I forgot your precious western media doesn’t report anything on a lowly pagan country. And no, it is not the case in India. Most of the people who live in cities are very well educated not only about our history but also on the history of other countries. In my home, I have SEVERAL Indian textbooks on a wide variety of subjects so I sure as hell can tell you that. I Once again, have you ever been to India? No. Where are you getting your information? BBC? Yes, most likely. So I recommend you be silent until you get around to visiting India.
Nope, certainly not “heavy” anymore. Corruption has declined greatly. Back then, my family could have told the police to do anything for them simply with the promises of money. There is no such thing these days. Now, I don’t deny there is still corruption in India, especially on the political level (I am glad our dear anti-Hindu party was caught in a HUGE money laundering scandal recently . Maybe our sensible Hindu party can win the upcoming elections) but it is also declining rapidly.
Once again, I am imploring you to be silent until you have visited and extensively traveled India. You don’t know what you are talking about and you probably never will until you stop watching BBC, stop listening to your mother’s Christian brainwashing, and get your father’s decades old “facts” on India out of our head.
By the way, did your father want to create Khalistan? If so, it is no small wonder he was exiled.[/QUOTE]
Billy, I don’t claim to know a lot about India…I find it really hard to believe that Christians have held people up at gunpoint to convert them and the only way I will believe that is for you to produce some evidence…it just doesn’t sit right in my head, not these days…so please supply some evidence.
And don’t be rude about my parents…my mother married a Sikh and spent many years in India and had great respect for India… My father loved his country and his family spent a great deal of time in arms against the British and suffered losses accordingly and yes his family wanted the Punjab given back to the Sikhs. He was a Parmar (paramaras) of the Agni Kund, Rajputs…so don’t go criticizing my family when you know nothing about them. He was an unusual, committed, driven person for his countrymen despite being in exile. When he died he was given the biggest foreign funeral ever seen in London… the Sikhs marched his body, in full Sikh style on a platform through a major part of London…so don’t knock him Billy. He was a brilliant ambassador and diplomat and exuded spiritual energy which people gravitated towards.
He did much for race relations in the 60’s in Britain where racism was on the rise at that time, and, he kept his turban on unlike many others who found it hard to avoid racism by wearing it. He also changed the laws in Britain allowing Sikhs to wear their Turban when riding a motorbike and had a positive influence in many other matters…so behave Billy!
I’m glad corruption is slowly being dealt with in India…this was my fathers main complaint…corruption…
[QUOTE=kareng;50505]Billy, I don’t claim to know a lot about India…I find it really hard to believe that Christians have held people up at gunpoint to convert them and the only way I will believe that is for you to produce some evidence…it just doesn’t sit right in my head, not these days…so please supply some evidence.
And don’t be rude about my parents…my mother married a Sikh and spent many years in India and had great respect for India… My father loved his country and his family spent a great deal of time in arms against the British and suffered losses accordingly and yes his family wanted the Punjab given back to the Sikhs. He was a Parmar (paramaras) of the Agni Kund, Rajputs…so don’t go criticizing my family when you know nothing about them. He was an unusual, committed, driven person for his countrymen despite being in exile. When he died he was given the biggest foreign funeral ever seen in London… the Sikhs marched his body, in full Sikh style on a platform through a major part of London…so don’t knock him Billy. He was a brilliant ambassador and diplomat and exuded spiritual energy which people gravitated towards.
He did much for race relations in the 60’s in Britain where racism was on the rise at that time, and, he kept his turban on unlike many others who found it hard to avoid racism by wearing it. He also changed the laws in Britain allowing Sikhs to wear their Turban when riding a motorbike and had a positive influence in many other matters…so behave Billy!
I’m glad corruption is slowly being dealt with in India…this was my fathers main complaint…corruption…[/QUOTE]
I was in India while that happened and it was a one-hour sort of report, something that would be very difficult to dig up almost a decade+ later. But I assure you it did happen. It caused quiet the stir back then, even if it lasted for a day or so. Missionary activity to all sorts of degrees happens in India, even to the point where my father, who goes to India several times throughout the year for 2 week business trips, makes frustrated comments on it.
Of course you find it hard to believe. You are raised a Christian and think all Christians are goody-goodies who benevolently help the poor in India. Please don’t make me laugh. If you don’t want me to make ignorant comments about your father (he seemed to have been a great man by the way, bless him), then don’t make equally ignorant comments about India especially when you admitted “I don’t claim to know a lot about India” and that you have never visited India.
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;50534]I was in India while that happened and it was a one-hour sort of report, something that would be very difficult to dig up almost a decade+ later. But I assure you it did happen. It caused quiet the stir back then, even if it lasted for a day or so. Missionary activity to all sorts of degrees happens in India, even to the point where my father, who goes to India several times throughout the year for 2 week business trips, makes frustrated comments on it.
Of course you find it hard to believe. You are raised a Christian and think all Christians are goody-goodies who benevolently help the poor in India. Please don’t make me laugh. If you don’t want me to make ignorant comments about your father (he seemed to have been a great man by the way, bless him), then don’t make equally ignorant comments about India especially when you admitted “I don’t claim to know a lot about India” and that you have never visited India.[/QUOTE]
So this is an incident that happened a decade ago?
If I were to draw forth incidents in Gt Britain regarding peoples from foreign countries, the list would be endless. Why are you so sensitive to long past incidents and rare occasion events now? It;s the government that is at fault, not the Christians…
Saying you can use my family as a means to retaliate is low Billy…
Corruption Billy, that’s what’s wrong with India…but the rest is great…
[QUOTE=kareng;50545]So this is an incident that happened a decade ago?
If I were to draw forth incidents in Gt Britain regarding peoples from foreign countries, the list would be endless. Why are you so sensitive to long past incidents and rare occasion events now? It;s the government that is at fault, not the Christians..
Saying you can use my family as a means to retaliate is low Billy...
Corruption Billy, that's what's wrong with India.....but the rest is great...[/QUOTE]
That PARTICULAR incident yes. Things like this happen all the time today to such a degree that it would be pointless to report them as something unique or unusual.
Yes it is as much the anti-Hindu government's fault as it is the mongrel Christian's fault, who take advantage of our government's stupidity and prey upon the poor.
Nope, Islam and Christianity, and Muslims and Christians, are what is wrong with India. Without them, there would be no religious clash, no genocides, no war mongering, no ignorance festering, and so forth.
Once again, do not talk about India's problems until you have visited it. The fact that you are still doing so (and wrongfully at that) makes me better understand why your father was rightfully exiled from India.
Here are some links which talk about this disease in India called "Christian and and Islamic proselytizing."
http://www.ivarta.com/columns/OL_040926.htm
And no, that is not what I meant. I was trying to imply that if you can so easily make ignorant comments about the condition of India, then you should have no problem accepting my ignorant comments about your father. I think it is a fair deal, right Lauren?
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;50560]That PARTICULAR incident yes. Things like this happen all the time today to such a degree that it would be pointless to report them as something unique or unusual.
Yes it is as much the anti-Hindu government's fault as it is the mongrel Christian's fault, who take advantage of our government's stupidity and prey upon the poor.
Nope, Islam and Christianity, and Muslims and Christians, are what is wrong with India. Without them, there would be no religious clash, no genocides, no war mongering, no ignorance festering, and so forth.
Once again, do not talk about India's problems until you have visited it. The fact that you are still doing so (and wrongfully at that) makes me better understand why your father was rightfully exiled from India.
Here are some links which talk about this disease in India called "Christian and and Islamic proselytizing."
http://www.ivarta.com/columns/OL_040926.htm
And no, that is not what I meant. I was trying to imply that if you can so easily make ignorant comments about the condition of India, then you should have no problem accepting my ignorant comments about your father. I think it is a fair deal, right Lauren?[/QUOTE]
Your last sentence shows your immaturity in the world of debate, also, stupidity. I am not making ignorant comments about India. corruption in India is a fact that you are not wishing to face up to NOW.....What did/has your father done for his people Billy? tell me what contributions to society has your father made? what period of history did your family fight for their country? Is your father loved by white and brown alike? Did your father help on a regular basis, fellow countrymen who on arriving in a foreign country had nothing, poor and without work and medicines taking nothing for it? He was exiled for his political beliefs Billy and he had a distinct annoyance in his voice for countrymen who left their country for MONEY Billy! When he died, over a thousand people attended his funeral because of the man he was............why have you left India Billy? Why has your father?
Can you see how low it is to bring family into a debate on religion and politics!
I will read the links and comment later....
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20110202/video/vwl-ufo-hovers-over-jerusalem-15af341.html
A UFO over the temple mount …
[QUOTE=kareng;50565]Your last sentence shows your immaturity in the world of debate, also, stupidity. I am not making ignorant comments about India. corruption in India is a fact that you are not wishing to face up to NOW…What did/has your father done for his people Billy? tell me what contributions to society has your father made? what period of history did your family fight for their country? Is your father loved by white and brown alike? Did your father help on a regular basis, fellow countrymen who on arriving in a foreign country had nothing, poor and without work and medicines taking nothing for it? He was exiled for his political beliefs Billy and he had a distinct annoyance in his voice for countrymen who left their country for MONEY Billy! When he died, over a thousand people attended his funeral because of the man he was…why have you left India Billy? Why has your father?
Can you see how low it is to bring family into a debate on religion and politics!
I will read the links and comment later…[/QUOTE]
Nope, I was making a comparison. If you are going to exaggerate the problems within India based on skewed reports by BBC and other Western media, I too can make ignorant comments about your father. If you think your ignorant views are right, even though you have admitted to not knowing much about India and to never having visited it, then you should have no problem with my ignorant views of your father. I don’t care if the topic is religion or politics, ignorant comments are still ignorant.
No, I actually have long recognized corruption is a problem within India. However, unlike you, I have the first-hand experience (unlike you, who sits in her cozy home in Britain feeding false information on India into the mouths of Westerners everywhere) to know that it is no longer as big of a problem ignorant Westerners like you make it out to be. In fact, poverty and missionaries are the worst problems facing India today.
You find it hard to accept the missionaries part because of your Christian upbringing. You foolishly believe all Christians are goody-goodies and even expressed disbelief at my anecdote of Christians converting the poor at gunpoint. Grow up Lauren. Most Christians, especially the missionary oriented kind, are nothing more than gospel preaching mindless robots who place #s of converts and their religion above individual human life. They lie, cheat, manipulate, and subvert. I have experienced this myself several times, within India and out.
Getting a little angry aren’t we? Thats a nice rant and all, but I am more interested in the circumstances regarding your father’s exile. You seem to be awfully edgy about it. You mentioned that he wanted Punjab for the Sikhs. Did he want an independent country? If so, considering the political situation within India at the time, I can see why he was exiled, however wrong or right the decision by the government was.
And yes, be sure to check out the other resources and links within those websites. The more the information, the better.
[QUOTE=kareng;50574]http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20110202/video/vwl-ufo-hovers-over-jerusalem-15af341.html
A UFO over the temple mount …[/QUOTE]
Thats nice. I don’t care. UFO’s happen everywhere, including at other archeological sites and ruins. Temple mount is no big deal.
Besides, no one proved whether it is a UFO or not. It is a shame that such useless events regarding Abrahamic religions get such a big hype in Western media.
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;50584]Thats nice. I don’t care. UFO’s happen everywhere, including at other archeological sites and ruins. Temple mount is no big deal.
Besides, no one proved whether it is a UFO or not. It is a shame that such useless events regarding Abrahamic religions get such a big hype in Western media.[/QUOTE]
hahahahaha
Oh come on Billy.you loved watching it…admit it…
it looks pretty impressive to me as a UFO
Is this a sign billy?
[QUOTE=kareng;50694]hahahahaha
Oh come on Billy.you loved watching it…admit it…
it looks pretty impressive to me as a UFO[/QUOTE]
I have watched enough of “UFO Hunters” and “Ancient Aliens” in the History Channel to not be impressed by strobe lights/glare over some religious site.
If this was an alien sighting, I would have expected far more people to have reported the same thing. But it didn’t happen in this situation.