I love how none of these people who want to complain about being such victims, pointing their finger at the “Evil West” or whomever they like, never stop to think that all their troubles may be due to… [B][I]their[/I][/B] karma? :lol:
By the way I have a bible at home 
I have read all of the main Gospels, including the non-orthodox gospels and I have read the OT as well. I have also read the Quran.
I highly doubt anybody here(except Neitzsche) have read the the Mahabharata, Ramayana. Had they read it, they would not make
false statements about it. The Mahabharata and Ramayana are noble and enlightened texts which bespeak the horrors of wars and
the need to end wars by overcoming our selfish instincts. They teach about the need to develop noble(Arya) character. Nowhere,
in either of these epics, is genocide of people, rape of women, murder of children ordained. Such savagary and barbarism is not even
commited by the evil characters in these epics. Duryodhana, the villain of the Mahabharata, only crime is he jealous and feels that he
should be the rightful heir to the throne of Hastinapur because his father is the king, and not Yudishstra of the Pandavas, his cousins.
His jealousy gets the better of him and he ends up conspiring against the Pandavas. There are several assasination attempts and many
injustices done to the Pandavas - which the pandavas tolerate because ahimsa is considered a superior response. In the end, when the
level of injustice against the Pandavas reaches tipping point, does the great Mahabharata war take place. It is then Krishna counsels Arjuna
to fight. However, other than that Duryodhana was a noble king and his public loved him.
Ravana in the Ramayana is a great yogi with mastery of many siddhis, with great knowledge and a great devotee of Shiva. He is not at all
an evil man and commands a great empire. His only crime was his massive ego and pride. He thought that because he had such great powers
he was good as invincible and went on an ego-trip. His biggest crime was to abduct Sita, and in Hindu-Arya dharma, disrespecting a woman is
the most henious crime. Yet, although Ravana abducted her, he kept her in luxurious conditions in his palace and refused to touch her until she
would accept him(such noble thoughts only belong to Hindu-Arya dharma)
To us Hindu-Aryans the acts in the bible are so savage and barbaric that they’re unthinkable. Even our most evil characters in our epics are like
saints compared to the god and prophets of the bible.
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;46174]By the way I have a bible at home I have read all of the main Gospels, including the non-orthodox gospels and I have read the OT as well. I have also read the Quran.
I highly doubt anybody here(except Neitzsche) have read the the Mahabharata, Ramayana. Had they read it, they would not make
false statements about it. The Mahabharata and Ramayana are noble and enlightened texts which bespeak the horrors of wars and
the need to end wars by overcoming our selfish instincts. They teach about the need to develop noble(Arya) character. Nowhere,
in either of these epics, is genocide of people, rape of women, murder of children ordained. Such savagary and barbarism is not even
commited by the evil characters in these epics. Duryodhana, the villain of the Mahabharata, only crime is he jealous and feels that he
should be the rightful heir to the throne of Hastinapur because his father is the king, and not Yudishstra of the Pandavas, his cousins.
His jealousy gets the better of him and he ends up conspiring against the Pandavas. There are several assasination attempts and many
injustices done to the Pandavas - which the pandavas tolerate because ahimsa is considered a superior response. In the end, when the
level of injustice against the Pandavas reaches tipping point, does the great Mahabharata war take place. It is then Krishna counsels Arjuna
to fight. However, other than that Duryodhana was a noble king and his public loved him.
Ravana in the Ramayana is a great yogi with mastery of many siddhis, with great knowledge and a great devotee of Shiva. He is not at all
an evil man and commands a great empire. His only crime was his massive ego and pride. He thought that because he had such great powers
he was good as invincible and went on an ego-trip. His biggest crime was to abduct Sita, and in Hindu-Arya dharma, disrespecting a woman is
the most henious crime. Yet, although Ravana abducted her, he kept her in luxurious conditions in his palace and refused to touch her until she
would accept him(such noble thoughts only belong to Hindu-Arya dharma)
To us Hindu-Aryans the acts in the bible are so savage and barbaric that they’re unthinkable. Even our most evil characters in our epics are like
saints compared to the god and prophets of the bible.[/QUOTE]
Uhhhh, you got a little Cut&Paste formatting issue with that original though of yours there.
Please remember to cite your sources yeah thanks… :rolleyes:
You sure like to throw accusations about. Prove that the post I wrote is copy and pasted from elsewhere
This comment I composed in the racist thread you started in the community forum before it got closed:
What I find ironic and both amusing is how this thread started out by accusing Indians of being anti-Western and racist etc, but the only racist comments to be found here are anti-Indian comments by the thread starter
I repeat Indra Deva, you are lucky we Indians are so tolerant, had you said similar things to black or Chinese people all hell would have broken loose. I dare you to go to a black person on the street and say, “Your county has taken trillions and trillions of dollars from us, we have taken you outside of the gutter and kept you there”
This thread is highly racist and will lead to violent confrontation and I think it should be closed and action be taken against the thread starter.
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;46178]You sure like to throw accusations about. Prove that the post I wrote is copy and pasted from elsewhere
This comment I composed in the racist thread you started in the community forum before it got closed:
What I find ironic and both amusing is how this thread started out by accusing Indians of being anti-Western and racist etc, but the only racist comments to be found here are anti-Indian comments by the thread starter 
[/quote]
Okay, I get it. You’re a troll, as you seem unable to grasp the points I’ve made.
- no one here is a Catholic Bishop at the Vatican.
- no one here is a Power Player with any Western Government, the G12, the Bilderberg Group, the World Bank or the IMF.
- no one here has an irrational hatred of Hindus or Indians.
- no one here is responsible for any of the problems that you have with “THE EVIL WEST”
I repeat Indra Deva, you are lucky we Indians are so tolerant…
What, are you going to go all Teitan on me and threaten me with physical violence from the other side of the planet for stating the obvious? Fine, go ahead.
had you said similar things to black or Chinese people all hell would have broken loose.
Actually, the US likes to borrow money from China so it wouldn’t make any sense there either. Maybe you should lay off of your current antisemitic kick and try reading some global news?
I dare you to go to a black person on the street and say, “Your county has taken trillions and trillions of dollars from us, we have taken you outside of the gutter and kept you there”
You want me to go up to a black person in America & say that? They’ll probably just shake their head & walk away.
That was a good try though, I suppose.
This thread is highly racist and will lead to violent confrontation and I think it should be closed and action be taken against the thread starter.
Didn’t you start this antisemitic thread?
Since we’re taking stuff from my other thread…
When you take many trillions of dollars worth of international aid from Western nations, you don’t get to complain about Western interests sticking their noses into your country. If you can’t accept that, that’s your problem, not mine or anyone else. I’m certainly not personally sending trillions of dollars to anyone, and I’m not sending missionaries, there is no love lost between me and Christianity. But I have a relatively firm grasp on how the real world works, and when you take a mountain of money from certain parties, they WILL WANT you to do a little something for them, like allow them an certain economic presence in your country. You take money from the World Bank & the IMF, you have to practically sell your soul to get it. & guess what? Countries do it every day. Mexico is forced to store and stockpile Canada’s nuclear waste even though they don’t want to, because of the deals they have made with the economic Powers That Be. It’s the price you pay when you try to play in the big leagues.
If it was me, tomorrow I’d take all the board members of the IMF, the World Bank and the Federal Reserve, lock them in the bottom of the darkest prison and throw away the key, because THEY are the real “Evil”. Their manipulating of little people, yes, even those who post on the internet, into thinking that it’s “US versus India”, all that racist bull****, whatever, it’s all a distraction. & if you and your buddies don’t get that, then you’re missing the real point. Colors don’t matter, except for the color of $$$GREEN$$$.
I’m sorry if you can’t grasp that, but that is the way things are. The Global Power Brokers just happen to be camped out in the West because that was where the money was to be had in the first place when global trade started up. The luck of the draw, so to speak.
You said “Because we deserve it, considering the $Trillions$ & $Trillions$ of dollars that we’ve sent India to drag it out & keep it out of the gutter”
If India, and your precious Prime Ministers, didn’t want Western Interests poking their noses into India’s business, then maybe your government shouldn’t have sold your country out, right?
(I’m not talking about British Colonialism, btw. & I had nothing to do with that either, in case you were wondering)
Hey, I didn’t twist an Indian government official’s arm and make them sign on the dotted line. They did it of their own free will and they pay the piper to somebody else. It’s not me, nor anyone else in this forum, nor anyone we know, so why don’t you quit being so friggin’ antagonistic around here? All I can do is try to affect a change with who I vote for and what I say to folks. That’s all we little people can do. But blaming me for the shoddy financial deals that your country entered into, or the crimes of the Catholic church, or the travesties that were allegedly perpetrated by some little tribe in the Old Testament (which I don’t believe in, btw), that’s all a big flaming waste of both your time and mine. You accusing me of being racist (when I’m not), being angry at me for being Christian (when I’m not & don’t like the Christian religion anyways), and accusing me of being anti-Hindu (I don’t even know what the hell that would entail but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t apply), all that is just a big waste of time. You’re railing against the wrong party. Go after the G12 or the The Bilderberg Group or the Vatican, but not me or anyone else here. You guys are totally barking up the wrong tree.
Do you expect us to be your friends with statements like that? This comment is highly offensive and racist and very few self-respecting Indians are going to respect you for it You are lucky us Indian people are so tolerant, had you said that to a Chinese person or even a black person, all hell would have broken loose.
Is it OK to be racist to Indians?
You’ve demonstrated next to no tolerance. You actually started a thread about the Old Testament, the occurrences documented there are historically dubious at best, but you’re talking about how it’s the most violent scripture? How does that help you in your Yoga practice? or anyone else here? No one here is advocating or supporting religious violence at all. C’mon, be serious.
You want me to go up to a black person in America & say that? They’ll probably just shake their head & walk away.
That was a good try though, I suppose.
Nope, they will shake your head Again, I dare you. Do it and report back to me(if you’re still in one piece ;-)) In the UK if you did this you would get arrested for racial discrimination.
Indra Dev you are a racist and what is funny you make it very obvious.
What, are you going to go all Teitan on me and threaten me with physical violence from the other side of the planet for stating the obvious? Fine, go ahead.
You obviously do not appreciate the good thing people do for you. It was I who reported that threat of physical violence against you by Teitan to David. And you know what? I would do it again if Teitan(if he was here) threatened you with physical violence.
I am a good person and you fail to see the good in me because of your racism.
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;46180]Nope, they will shake your head Again, I dare you. Do it and report back to me(if you’re still in one piece ;-)) In the UK if you did this you would get arrested for racial discrimination.
Indra Dev you are a racist and what is funny you make it very obvious.[/QUOTE]
Black people here… most of them are AMERICAN. Me yelling at them about “their country”… it’s all the same country. So again, your proposal makes no sense.
& your con’t claims of me being a racist, unfortunately for you, doesn’t make it so. Sorry.
If I was really as racist as you allegedly thing (I still think you’re just trolling), I’d probably go to StormFront and never leave.
You know that real racists don’t spend time talking to other “races”, right? Do you know what real racist do, how they act? it doesn’t seem that you do…
Let me give you a little hint.
AMERICAN WHITE SUPREMACISTS DON’T DO YOGA.
I had no idea. Actually, Teitan stated that he WOULD perform some kind of assault on me but apparently it was too far of a drive. It was a stupid little infantile statement from an obvious troll.
& you “didn’t do it for me”, come on, get serious. You think reporting a troll for violating forum rules make you some kind of saint??? :rolleyes:
I am a good person and you fail to see the good in me because of your racism.
However, you don’t act like, or post like, any of the “good people” that I know. Good people don’t accuse people of being racists when they repeated state that they are not, and on a Yoga Forum of all places.
I mean really…
You are reminding us Indians of India, when in fact my country is not India but the UK. I am not sure about Neitzsche’s country of birth, but I am guessing it is not India. So why would you hestitate from reminding a black person of Africa?
Indra Deva you are squirming now. You know the comments you just made about Indians were racist and do not have the gall to say anything similar to black people, because you know what would happen to you if you did For the record many black people consider Africa their motherland and are loyal to it. Many black people have not forgotten about the slave-trade and still remember it to this very day. Annual memorials are held all over the world by black people to remember what they have gone through.
Similarly, some of us Indians remember what we had to go through under the British. How our rich and literate country was made poor and illiterate by the economic genocide of the British. We also remember the efforts of the struggle of our people to gain independence and rebuild the country. We have not done bad at all - from 95% people living in poverty in 1947 to 50% in the middle class by 2025, the fourth largest economy in the world(GDP: PPP) and top 5 countries in science and technology. Indians are sought all over the world in professional jobs.
It was your Obama that came to us, we did not go to him
Sorry, I assumed you were complaining about Indian stuff so much I assumed you were there. & I bet 99 out of 100 African Americans have no clue what African country they are from. They may have an idea but it’s not a part of their cultural identity. That’s just the way it is.
Indra Deva you are squirming now. You know the comments you just made about Indians were racist and do not have the gall to say anything similar to black people, because you know what would happen to you if you did
For the record many black people consider Africa their motherland and are loyal to it. Many black people have not forgotten about the slave-trade and still remember it to this very day. Annual memorials are held all over the world by black people to remember what they have gone through.
Hahaha, you’re a slick little troll! not
Except that you don’t seem to grasp that Africa isn’t a country, it’s a big old continent. You know that, right?
Similarly, some of us Indians remember what we had to go through under the British. How our rich and literate country was made poor and illiterate by the economic genocide of the British. We also remember the efforts of the struggle of our people to gain independence and rebuild the country. We have not done bad at all - from 95% people living in poverty in 1947 to 50% in the middle class by 2025, the fourth largest economy in the world(GDP: PPP) and top 5 countries in science and technology. Indians are sought all over the world in professional jobs.
Wait, you’re Indian and you live in the UK and you’re on a Yoga Forum accusing people of being racist against Indians???
Why don’t you just walk out your front with a cricket bat and start whaling on the first white person you see & scream "RACIST!!!"
Maybe that would make you feel better than accusing some American on the Internet of it.
& what was all that about me being “lucky” that you were so tolerant?
It was your Obama that came to us, we did not go to him
“My Obama”??? See, there you go, missing the point yet again.
I voted for Ron Paul.
& what does “came to us” mean? Are you talking about the UK or India? or are you just trying to muddy the issue again?
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;46178]You sure like to throw accusations about. Prove that the post I wrote is copy and pasted from elsewhere ;)[/QUOTE]
that doesn’t happen unless your c&p from somewhere else. Sorry, it’s a fact. You can lie about it if you want but you might upset someone…
Wait, you’re Indian and you live in the UK and you’re on a Yoga Forum accusing people of being racist against Indians???
No, I am accusing you of being a racist because you have said racist things. I am not accusing anybody else here of being racist
You are an obvious racist.
And Yoga has obviously done you no good
To get this thread kick-started again, here is a comment by none other than a bishop who is criticising his own religion:
The Bible has been used for centuries by Christians as a weapon of control. To read it literally is to believe in a three-tiered universe, to condone slavery, to treat women as inferior creatures, to believe that sickness is caused by God’s punishment and that mental disease and epilepsy are caused by demonic possession. When someone tells me that they believe the Bible is the ‘literal and inerrant word of God,’ I always ask, ‘Have you ever read it’?" Bishop John Shelby Spong. 2
The problem with the Old and New Testaments is that they are both dated pieces of literature that reflect the values and mores of those who wrote them between 1000 BCE and 135 CE. Many passages in the Old Testament reflect a tribal mentality that portrays God as hating everyone the people of Israel hated. It also portrays God as killing the firstborn male in every household in Egypt on the night of the Passover; justifies the institution of slavery (except for fellow Jews) and defines women as the property of men. Note that even the Ten Commandments exhort us “not covet our neighbor’s house, his wife, his slaves, his ox, his ass, etc.” The neighbor is clearly a male, and the things that we are forbidden to covet are all male possessions. These Hebrew Scriptures, however, also define God as love, justice and as a universal being. In the portrait of the “Servant” in Isaiah 40-55 the Hebrew Scriptures portray human life as capable of giving itself away and even of acting in such a way as to draw the pain out of others, absorb it and return it as love. The New Testament portrays Paul as believing that slavery is good if it is kind. Paul also reveals attitudes toward women that are today deeply embarrassing: “I forbid a woman to have authority over a man.” “Women should keep quiet in church.” Bishop John Shelby Spong. 3
Biblical scholar Raymond Schwager:
“… has found 600 passages of explicit violence in the Hebrew Bible [a.k.a. Old Testament], 1000 verses where God’s own violent actions of punishment are described, 100 passages where God expressly commands others to kill people, and several stories where God irrationally kills or tries to kill for no apparent reason. Violence … is easily the most often mentioned activity in the Hebrew Bible.” 6
http://www.religioustolerance.org/god_cana.htm
It is very explictly clear that the god of the OT religion is a mass murdering maniac, no different to a Hitler, Stalin or Mao.
It is obvious this scripture was composed by primitive and savage people who created an equally primitive and savage god
in their image.
Why is it important this discussion be had. There are two reasons
- To show how Christianity is need of serious reform. The OT needs to be removed from the bible canon and only the NT kept
- To show Christianity is a false religion. It is clear this religion has been created by men, its beliefs and philosophies created by men who belonged to a tribal and barbaric civilisation.
The truth is nobody can be religiously neutral. We cannot have a world that does not have a religion. Everybody has a religion because everybody has a view on the world: there are materialists, hedonists, dualists, theists, atheists, relativists, monists. Today we live in a world whose religion is predominatly Abrahamic and materialist - and guess what - it is a depraved place. A world which is based on the tribal mentality of the Abrahamic religion is a world full of hate, inequality and competition.
By exposing the falsity of the Abrahamic religion I am showing the necessity of getting rid of it from this world and replacing it with a true religion: The dharmic religion. The dharmic religions have already proven themselves by the great material, intellectual and spiritual civilisation they spawned in India: arya dharma. It is time the great prosperity that India enjoyed in ancient times be bought to the entire world. The entire world should be Arya.
The only salvation of this world and of the individual in this world is to embrace Arya dharma. The only religion that has scientific proof to back it up and the only religion that has proven historically that it cultivates high civilisation.
Indra. It has been established long ago that SD and his buddy Freddie what’s-his-face are trolls by every definition. By engaging them on their own terms you are giving them the stuff on which they feed. They have small endosystems and need to provoke others in order to feel alive.
Pity them. Make fun of them. Scorn them. But do not feed them.
Your “bishop” source is not a Catholic bishop and is no longer a bishop. It’s extrmely easy to find such “sources.” There are many who are offended by, or who can’t live up to the moral teachings of Christianity, and then leave it and complain about it, or make it into a cause so they can have their own religion and their own following.
You have an agenda, SD. You don’t go to the sources with an open mind or with the desire to find the true meaning or to understand the situation in the context of the overall faith, of the times it was writtin, why it was written, to whom it was written, what the religion itself says about it, etc. You cherry pick anything that looks “evil” and then put your own spin on it.
Go to a Catholic scholar and ask about those passages which trouble you so much, IF you have a desire to understand and to be fair. If you don’t have that motive, then keep looking for dirt in google searches and you’ll find plenty keep you amused.
Looks like he saw sense Most atheists are actually ex-Christians. Anyway the reason I pointed him out, amongst other secular Western scholars to show that we Hindus are not alone in making these criticisms of Christianity.
We do not become trolls, racists and evil people anymore than they do for pointing out the same. According to real trolls like Flexpenguin even religious-tolerance.com is a troll web site lol.
You have an agenda, SD.
Yeah, which I have made very clear
- To show that Christianity is in serious need of reform and this needs to be done by removing the OT from the bible canon and keeping the NT.
- To show that Christianity is a false religion, created by men of a certain time frame and only relevant to that time period. And the need to replace it with the true religion of Hinduism.
You don’t go to the sources with an open mind or with the desire to find the true meaning or to understand the situation in the context of the overall faith, of the times it was writtin, why it was written, to whom it was written, what the religion itself says about it, etc. You cherry pick anything that looks “evil” and then put your own spin on it.
I am sorry I cannot be open minded about the mass killing of innocent men, women and children. I cannot be open minded about how 32,000 little boys are murdered in front of their mothers, then their mothers are murdered and 32,000 young women are then taken and raped - ordained by none other than Moses. It is disturbing that you can be.
You complain about abortion and yet you are OK with children being killed in the OT? :lol:
Go to a Catholic scholar and ask about those passages which trouble you so much, IF you have a desire to understand and to be fair. If you don’t have that motive, then keep looking for dirt in google searches and you’ll find plenty keep you amused.
I don’t need to do that because I have no need for an apology. It is your faith and it is you who needs to work this moral dilemma out for yourself and rationalize the savagry and barbarism contained in your bible. Of course the only honest thing to do is what that bishop did
[QUOTE=Indra Deva;46179]Okay, I get it. You’re a troll, as you seem unable to grasp the points I’ve made.
- no one here is a Catholic Bishop at the Vatican.
- no one here is a Power Player with any Western Government, the G12, the Bilderberg Group, the World Bank or the IMF.
- no one here has an irrational hatred of Hindus or Indians.
- no one here is responsible for any of the problems that you have with “THE EVIL WEST”
What, are you going to go all Teitan on me and threaten me with physical violence from the other side of the planet for stating the obvious? Fine, go ahead.
Actually, the US likes to borrow money from China so it wouldn’t make any sense there either. Maybe you should lay off of your current antisemitic kick and try reading some global news?
You want me to go up to a black person in America & say that? They’ll probably just shake their head & walk away.
That was a good try though, I suppose.
Didn’t you start this antisemitic thread?
Since we’re taking stuff from my other thread…
When you take many trillions of dollars worth of international aid from Western nations, you don’t get to complain about Western interests sticking their noses into your country. If you can’t accept that, that’s your problem, not mine or anyone else. I’m certainly not personally sending trillions of dollars to anyone, and I’m not sending missionaries, there is no love lost between me and Christianity. But I have a relatively firm grasp on how the real world works, and when you take a mountain of money from certain parties, they WILL WANT you to do a little something for them, like allow them an certain economic presence in your country. You take money from the World Bank & the IMF, you have to practically sell your soul to get it. & guess what? Countries do it every day. Mexico is forced to store and stockpile Canada’s nuclear waste even though they don’t want to, because of the deals they have made with the economic Powers That Be. It’s the price you pay when you try to play in the big leagues.
If it was me, tomorrow I’d take all the board members of the IMF, the World Bank and the Federal Reserve, lock them in the bottom of the darkest prison and throw away the key, because THEY are the real “Evil”. Their manipulating of little people, yes, even those who post on the internet, into thinking that it’s “US versus India”, all that racist bull****, whatever, it’s all a distraction. & if you and your buddies don’t get that, then you’re missing the real point. Colors don’t matter, except for the color of $$$GREEN$$$.
I’m sorry if you can’t grasp that, but that is the way things are. The Global Power Brokers just happen to be camped out in the West because that was where the money was to be had in the first place when global trade started up. The luck of the draw, so to speak.
If India, and your precious Prime Ministers, didn’t want Western Interests poking their noses into India’s business, then maybe your government shouldn’t have sold your country out, right?
(I’m not talking about British Colonialism, btw. & I had nothing to do with that either, in case you were wondering)
Hey, I didn’t twist an Indian government official’s arm and make them sign on the dotted line. They did it of their own free will and they pay the piper to somebody else. It’s not me, nor anyone else in this forum, nor anyone we know, so why don’t you quit being so friggin’ antagonistic around here? All I can do is try to affect a change with who I vote for and what I say to folks. That’s all we little people can do. But blaming me for the shoddy financial deals that your country entered into, or the crimes of the Catholic church, or the travesties that were allegedly perpetrated by some little tribe in the Old Testament (which I don’t believe in, btw), that’s all a big flaming waste of both your time and mine. You accusing me of being racist (when I’m not), being angry at me for being Christian (when I’m not & don’t like the Christian religion anyways), and accusing me of being anti-Hindu (I don’t even know what the hell that would entail but I’m pretty sure it doesn’t apply), all that is just a big waste of time. You’re railing against the wrong party. Go after the G12 or the The Bilderberg Group or the Vatican, but not me or anyone else here. You guys are totally barking up the wrong tree.
You’ve demonstrated next to no tolerance. You actually started a thread about the Old Testament, the occurrences documented there are historically dubious at best, but you’re talking about how it’s the most violent scripture? How does that help you in your Yoga practice? or anyone else here? No one here is advocating or supporting religious violence at all. C’mon, be serious.[/QUOTE]
You, and other posters have indeed shown yourself to have the last few points. You are biased against Indians and Hindus.
"This is a good start Surya. I’ll contact A R Rahman so he can compose an upbeat score. [B]You and Friedrich practice your dance routines (who’s the stright guy?).[/B] Leave everything to me and I’ll have you [B]guys prancing down the red carpet come Oscar season. [/B]
May have to change the old testament theme thing a bit. Violence is good, but can you find some sexy bits? [B]Just try to resist casting any girls under 16. I’ve read about old Hindu men’s preference for marrying the young ones. Won’t go over well out here. Round up some lower caste filthy untouchable bastards to haul the equipment around on the cheap,[/B] and we’re set." - Courtesy of Flex Penguin
"[B]Actually, when we get down to brass tacks, the “Evil West” is going to do whatever it wants.[/B] Why? [B]Because we deserve it[/B], considering the $Trillions$ & $Trillions$ of dollars that [B]we’ve sent India to drag it out & keep it out of the gutter.[/B] Now that India is internationally recognized as a “developing country”, you’re all "Now get out! & completely change while you’re at it!“
Sorry, the real world doesn’t work like that. It never has. You like all the money we give you but you don’t like having us around? [B]Pssht, grow the hell up.[/B]
Asians can look at the plethora of religions, philosophies, and belief systems available to them and they pick & choose like a salad bar. As Western countries have global social & financial influence, [B]we will pick and choose from what religions or philosophies we like, when we like. We have the money, the power, and the authority, & we’ll do what we like.[/B] You can whine about it all you want but it’s a waste of time. Grow up & get with the real world.” - Indra Deva
The above are your exact words. What do you think this is? To any sensible reader, it is typical of Western/White supremacist ideals.
Actually, SD was not saying that we would start becoming violent. He was saying “you’re lucky we’re so tolerant” because if it was otherwise, they wouldn’t have put up with your garbage; in other words, they would become outspoken like us.
But why wouldn’t you try this in China? The Western World has all the power and money as you said above and can do whatever pleases their volition. So why not? China is just another backward and uncivilized country that can be trampled upon by the Western world! Right?
Lol, do you know ANY African Americans? Let me give you specific instructions. Go to the nearest black neighborhood. Start preaching your Western/white supremacist views. Observe (if you are able to by then) the results. Scared?
Find me ONE post, at least ONE post, that had racism against Jews. I will be waiting. You still need to grasp the fact that we are talking about SCRIPTURES, NOT PEOPLE.
I loved the whole tirade on the World Bank and Western supremacy. It is exactly your kind of thinking that perpetuates evil in this world. “That’s what you get…” This is the exact kind of Westerner thinking I am so against. This is exactly what I meant when I said Westerner with Christian biases.
The truth is, you are anti-Hindu/Indian, like any dogmatic Westerner that watches CNN/Fox news’ coverage on India. Stop proclaiming otherwise. You have even mentioned that you do not like Hinduism, posted links to anti-Hindu articles and sites, and have even started a post on supposedly hate filled Indians.
You are a fool. SD and I have shown no tolerance towards the intolerance within Christianity (and in my case, Westerners with your EXACT KIND OF SUPREMACIST DOGMA), which is only righteousness. No doubt the OT’s historicity is in question; but that isn’t the point since it is meant to be a RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURE (what kind of religious scripture has all that evil content in it?) and has [B]historically[/B] been used to justify all sorts of horrific acts throughout history, such as Crusades, Colonialism/Imperialism, wiping out of cultures, and so forth. On the other hand, you have demonstrated no tolerance towards Hinduism, have spread propaganda about it, degraded India, and asserted the supremacy of the West (and therefore, the right to do whatever it wants even if it is wrong).