I agree with what the guy said. “A movie featuring bad guys who use Hinduism to excuse their behavior isn’t anti-Indian.”
But the rest of the movie? Lol…I probably would have laughed my lungs out from the looks of it.
Yeah no wonder I don’t know the word gunga. It’s because its a name made by some Westerner who had amorphous conceptions, mostly the product of Marco Polo like fantasies on Asian exotica, on Indian names and languages.
Does anymore evidence need to be furnished to prove that the OT part of the bible is a most barbaric, savage and obscene work, worthy of nothing but condemnation.
I don’t even have to go any further than the first post.
Antisemitic statement, by definition: [I]Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism.[/I]
This thread should be closed.
[QUOTE=Indra Deva;46394]I don’t even have to go any further than the first post.
Antisemitic statement, by definition: [I]Hostility toward or prejudice against Jews or Judaism.[/I]
This thread should be closed.[/QUOTE]
Lawl. About time you answered.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/antisemitism
You have to appreciate the fact that there are different views on what anti-Semitism entails. Is it racial or racial AND/OR cultural? I am inclined to believe in the first definition, simply because it doesn’t make sense to be labeled as racist if you don’t like a scripture of a religion. Of course, I could pull the latter definition on a Christian fundie next time I see one…
That being said, find me a ANTI-JEW post (as a race).
(What about your anti-Hindu and Western supremacist posts?).
Aw comon Indra, I KNOW you couldn’t resist using a Jew joke at least once throughout your life…
http://www.becomingjewish.org/anti_semitism.html
"Anti-semitism is broadly defined within three categories: religious (anti-Judaism), racial, and the new anti-Semitism."
http://atheism.about.com/library/glossary/judaism/bldef_antisemitism.htm
"Antisemitism might strictly be used to refer to hatred of or hostility towards any member of the racial group “Semites,” but in practice it is only used to refer to hatred of or hostility towards Jews and Judaism."
http://religion.adherents.com/Judaism/30-jewish+people.html
Anti-Semitism can take place in many forms. It can be casual in nature. [B]It can be a simple comment that should not have been made.[/B] For example, there are many people who will make comments about Jewish people being cheap. Comments such as those are remnants of a society that used to try to bring Jewish people down for no reason at all.
Most people are able to look at a comment such as that and see it for what it is which is ridiculous. Now, as times change, people are less accepting of such a comment. They are more apt to question the reason behind the comment, which shows things are changing.
Unfortunately, comments such as the one listed above are not the only anti-Semitic actions in today’s society. There is the anti-Semitism that is much more powerful. [B]Sadly, even in today’s world, some religions look down on Jewish people. Religions that are supposed to love and respect everyone go on anti-Semitic tirades. They are so filled with hate that they end up losing the message they are supposed to be getting from their religion.[/B]
http://www.projetaladin.org/en/40-questions-40-answers/on-jews-and-judaism.html
Anti-Semitism is a synonym for the hatred of Jews and anti-Semitic means anti-Jewish. The word anti-Semitism became popular around 1880 because of articles and pamphlets written by Wilhelm Marr, a German journalist who came to be known as the “father of anti-Semitism”. While political anti-Semitism arose in the nineteenth century, religious anti-Semitism (also known as anti-Judaism) began in ancient times and continued into the Middle Ages, particularly within the Christian Church.
http://www.bibleinterp.com/articles/bergen_033001.shtml
Paradoxically, one link between the old religious anti-Judaism and the new “racial” anti-Semitism was the Bible. Even secular, anti-Christian ideologues in Germany belonged to a culture steeped in the stories, language, and images of the Christian Bible, Old and New Testaments. Biblical allusions, sometimes distorted and watered down but nevertheless identifiable, formed part of the shared legacy to which Nazi propaganda appealed and part of the culture with which its specific stereotypes resonated. Attention to biblical influences points to something unique about the Nazi murder of the Jews. Of the groups targeted by the Nazis for persecution and destruction, only Jews could be linked so closely to the force of religious tradition. Only in the case of Jews could religious distinctions masquerade as racial ones, which they did in the Nuremberg Laws. In Nazi Germany, it was the religion of one’s grandparents, not some putatively racial distinctions of blood or physical appearance, that determined who counted as a Jew.
I do find it ironic that some Hindu members here find it totally appropriate to critique Hebrew religious texts, while at the same time insisting that no one but a Hindu should ever interpret Hindu religious texts… :rolleyes:
& ironically, Nietzsche hated antisemitism and loved the Old Testament. In fact, Nietzsche took issue with Wagner’s antisemitism and ended their friendship because of it.
Ah, the irony of ignorance is oft hilarious! :lol:
Isn’t that wall of text saying exactly what I was trying to convey? That there are different versions and views on anti-Semitism? Now that we’ve established what kind of Antisemitism I am talking about, can you find the racially antisemitic post in this thread? In other words, can you find me the post that expressed racism against Jews?
Actually, I believe that anyone with a mindset influenced by Abrahamic traditions should not be given our texts freely, to do with as they please. Our religions and theirs are entirely irreconcilable and much harm can be done if they aren’t given to the right people, like the AIT. Bhuvisya Purana. Artificial insertion of verses and mistranslations of the Vedas. So on. As for interpretations, I don’t mind. Just don’t bring in European scholarship and British propaganda versions of Indian history and post links to anti-Hindu sites and articles. But most of you all seem incapable of doing that.
And SD and I are arguing the extensive inhumane content in the OT that cannot be explained otherwise with the classic argument “that was then, back in those times, blah blah blah.”
I have already mentioned that I the reason I chose this name for the account was because it looks and sounds cool.
What’s your point with the Wagner-Nietzsche fiasco? Wagner hated Jews as a race. I agree with Nietzsche for breaking the friendship.
I do not hate Jews in the way Americans like you do. I have great respect for them. They are hard working, intelligent, and tolerant, despite what their scriptures teach. They had the common sense to look past the bad in their religious scriptures and adapt their religion to modern times and ideals. I have nothing against Judaism, just the OT part of it. I have already mentioned this about 4 times in the past.
The thing I find most ironic is you saying I am Antisemitic (when I am not) when you are clearly anti-Hindu and have made several negative comments about Hinduism and India. At least you aren’t like Flex Penguin, who goes all out with this Indian/Hinduism stereotypes and racism.
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;46413]Isn’t that wall of text saying exactly what I was trying to convey? That there are different versions and views on anti-Semitism? Now that we’ve established what kind of Antisemitism I am talking about, can you find the racially antisemitic post in this thread? In other words, can you find me the post that expressed racism against Jews?
Actually, I believe that anyone with a mindset influenced by Abrahamic traditions should not be given our texts freely, to do with as they please. Our religions and theirs are entirely irreconcilable and much harm can be done if they aren’t given to the right people, like the AIT. Bhuvisya Purana. Artificial insertion of verses and mistranslations of the Vedas. So on. As for interpretations, I don’t mind. Just don’t bring in European scholarship and British propaganda versions of Indian history and post links to anti-Hindu sites and articles. But most of you all seem incapable of doing that. [/quote]
& to you, posting an critical to Hinduism article means that you are Anti-Hindu & Anti-Indian. How is that different from what you two are personally doing? If being critical of Hinduism makes one a racist, then you two being critical of and condemning the Old Testament & the Talmud makes you anti-Jewish & anti-Semitic. Just accept it.
And SD and I are arguing the extensive inhumane content in the OT that cannot be explained otherwise with the classic argument “that was then, back in those times, blah blah blah.”
I have already mentioned that I the reason I chose this name for the account was because it looks and sounds cool.
No one believes that as you seek to be inflammatory with your every keystroke…
What’s your point with the Wagner-Nietzsche fiasco? [B]Wagner hated Jews as a race[/B]. I agree with Nietzsche for breaking the friendship.
Wow. You’re so wrong…
I do not hate Jews in the way Americans like you do. I have great respect for them. They are hard working, intelligent, and tolerant, despite what their scriptures teach.
Really? & what would you think about Hindus acting like *******s constantly, despite what their scriptures teach?
They had the common sense to look past the bad in their religious scriptures and adapt their religion to modern times and ideals. I have nothing against Judaism, just the OT part of it. I have already mentioned this about 4 times in the past.
My girlfriend is Jewish & my daughters are Jewish. This conversation is about to take a serious turn. Do you want things to go this direction?
The thing I find most ironic is you saying I am Antisemitic (when I am not) when you are clearly anti-Hindu and have made several negative comments about Hinduism and India. At least you aren’t like Flex Penguin, who goes all out with this Indian/Hinduism stereotypes and racism.
If you agree with SD’s first post in this thread about the Old Testament, then you are indeed antisemitic, specifically anti-Jewish.
[QUOTE=Indra Deva;46420]& to you, posting an critical to Hinduism article means that you are Anti-Hindu & Anti-Indian. How is that different from what you two are personally doing? If being critical of Hinduism makes one a racist, then you two being critical of and condemning the Old Testament & the Talmud makes you anti-Jewish & anti-Semitic. Just accept it.
No one believes that as you seek to be inflammatory with your every keystroke…
Wow. You’re so wrong…
Really? & what would you think about Hindus acting like *******s constantly, despite what their scriptures teach?
My girlfriend is Jewish & my daughters are Jewish. This conversation is about to take a serious turn. Do you want things to go this direction?
If you agree with SD’s first post in this thread about the Old Testament, then you are indeed antisemitic, specifically anti-Jewish.[/QUOTE]
Posting links to [B]propaganda[/B] sites spreading Anti-Hindu/Indian messages and teaching Eurocentric garbage is indeed Anti-Hindu (unless if you are just believing what you have been taught, but in your case, you are very aware of the AIT and what you’re doing). I have never posted links to propaganda sites or copy pasted doubtable material. When I have ever said that you could not be critical of our scriptures and some of its teachings, like the caste system? I even said we could discuss it and I wouldn’t have cared. Just don’t bring in Western/Christianzed biases into these sort of discussions. That’s all I really ask. But most of you seem incapable of doing that. Now, it is the environment you all grew up in, so I don’t blame you for having some of these biases. But even after proclaiming to have practiced Yoga for years and gloating over how far you all are on the path to realization, I would have expected you to have a little less bias than what I have come to expect from most Westerners. Good to know I was wrong in this case as well.
So if I am condemning the bad in Jewish scriptures, that doesn’t make me Anti-Hebrew (the race) as much as it makes Surya Deva anti-Indian for condemning Bhakti Hinduism or your next door liberal/secular guy anti-White for condemning the negative aspects of the Bible.
Never asked you to believe me. And I don’t expect you to, since I told you numerous times what I have said about my forum name and you still refuse to listen. I could provide you the links to the posts where I have talked about my forum name but that would be a futile effort. Same goes for the OT content part.
Uhm lol? Are you joking? Wagner derailed Jewish composers of his time saying they were out to make a profit and composed inferior music. He also said they were alien to German culture and adulterating it with their presence. Similar to White supremacist groups who say foreigners are ruining their country and the Anglo-Saxon race is superior and should rule. Sounds like [B]Rac[/B]ism to me.
What do you honestly know about what our scriptures teach? Do they ask us to take White/Western supremacist views lying down, even when it shows no sign of abating after 3-4 centuries? Do they ask us to grovel at the foot of the power hungry and wily Western world that cares for nothing more than its continued status and continues to exploit other nations? Do they ask us to tolerate missionaries who are destroying Indian unity and Hinduism daily with their spreading of lies and ignorance? Do they ask us to tolerate those people who love to gain from other cultures and yet proceed to degrade it by spreading Eurocentric/Westernized/Christianized lies? Find me the exact verse where it says one should tolerate evil and deception, especially when everything has been done to tolerate it with the hope that such evil will evaporate. For heaven’s sake, even Swami Vivekananda was outspoken against anti-Hindu propaganda and lies spread by the British Raj!
What exactly did you find so offense about that statement? All I meant to say was Jewish people, unlike most Christians and Muslims, had the foresight/common sense to look past the bad in their scriptures and not derive any meaning from those intolerant teachings present in the OT, especially in today’s world.
Ok then? With that logic, everyone in the whole world would be anti-[insert race]. You would be Anti-Indian, I would be Anti-White/Hebrew/Arab/Persian, Christians would be Anti-[any race whose religion diverts from their own].
[QUOTE=Nietzsche;46444]Posting links to [B]propaganda[/B] sites spreading Anti-Hindu/Indian messages and teaching Eurocentric garbage is indeed Anti-Hindu (unless if you are just believing what you have been taught, but in your case, you are very aware of the AIT and what you’re doing). I have never posted links to propaganda sites or copy pasted doubtable material. When I have ever said that you could not be critical of our scriptures and some of its teachings, like the caste system? I even said we could discuss it and I wouldn’t have cared. Just don’t bring in Western/Christianzed biases into these sort of discussions. That’s all I really ask. But most of you seem incapable of doing that. Now, it is the environment you all grew up in, so I don’t blame you for having some of these biases. But even after proclaiming to have practiced Yoga for years and gloating over how far you all are on the path to realization, I would have expected you to have a little less bias than what I have come to expect from most Westerners. Good to know I was wrong in this case as well.
So if I am condemning the bad in Jewish scriptures, that doesn’t make me Anti-Hebrew (the race) as much as it makes Surya Deva anti-Indian for condemning Bhakti Hinduism or your next door liberal/secular guy anti-White for condemning the negative aspects of the Bible.
Never asked you to believe me. And I don’t expect you to, since I told you numerous times what I have said about my forum name and you still refuse to listen. I could provide you the links to the posts where I have talked about my forum name but that would be a futile effort. Same goes for the OT content part.
Uhm lol? Are you joking? Wagner derailed Jewish composers of his time saying they were out to make a profit and composed inferior music. He also said they were alien to German culture and adulterating it with their presence. Similar to White supremacist groups who say foreigners are ruining their country and the Anglo-Saxon race is superior and should rule. Sounds like [B]Rac[/B]ism to me. [/quote]
Wagner hating his Jewish composer contemporaries is by no means “Jews as a race”. Do you think before you hyperbolize? :rolleyes:
What do you honestly know about what our scriptures teach? Do they ask us to take White/Western supremacist views lying down, even when it shows no sign of abating after 3-4 centuries? Do they ask us to grovel at the foot of the power hungry and wily Western world that cares for nothing more than its continued status and continues to exploit other nations? Do they ask us to tolerate missionaries who are destroying Indian unity and Hinduism daily with their spreading of lies and ignorance? Do they ask us to tolerate those people who love to gain from other cultures and yet proceed to degrade it by spreading Eurocentric/Westernized/Christianized lies? Find me the exact verse where it says one should tolerate evil and deception, especially when everything has been done to tolerate it with the hope that such evil will evaporate. For heaven’s sake, even Swami Vivekananda was outspoken against anti-Hindu propaganda and lies spread by the British Raj!
What exactly did you find so offense about that statement? All I meant to say was Jewish people, unlike most Christians and Muslims, had the foresight/common sense to look past the bad in their scriptures and not derive any meaning from those intolerant teachings present in the OT, especially in today’s world.
Ok then? With that logic, everyone in the whole world would be anti-[insert race]. You would be Anti-Indian, I would be Anti-White/Hebrew/Arab/Persian, Christians would be Anti-[any race whose religion diverts from their own].
Yeah, I didn’t read all that. You live in a world of not people but stereotypes, a world of boxes that you constantly try to shove people into. It’s truly pathetic & supportive of the worst kind of separation.
[QUOTE=Indra Deva;46457]Wagner hating his Jewish composer contemporaries is by no means “Jews as a race”. Do you think before you hyperbolize? :rolleyes:
Yeah, I didn’t read all that. You live in a world of not people but stereotypes, a world of boxes that you constantly try to shove people into. It’s truly pathetic & supportive of the worst kind of separation.[/QUOTE]
You didn’t read what I said. Wagner thought such things of Jews [B]in general [/B](cheap, Jewish musicians compose for money, Jews are a blight on German culture).
Hypocrite.
Whoops, I made a mistake on the post before the above. I meant to say “Wagner derailed Jews of his time, saying Jewish composers were out to make a profit and composed inferior music. They (I meant to reference to Jews in general at this point) were alien to German culture and adulterating it with their presence.”
Not really hyperbolize. More of that fact that I think too far ahead of what I want to type, and hence, forget I am not typing what I want to say.
Anti-semiticism has both a literal and a political definition. Literally, it simply means to have prejudiced views against the semitic people - the jews. I don’t know many Jews personally myself, but one of my best friends who values me quite highlly, who is very spiritual is jewish and an expert on Kabbalah. He respects me and my philosophical differences with him and my critcisms of the OT, and I likewise respect him and his criticisms of HInduiksm. We often meet up in the pub and have lively, friendly discussions and fun and banter.
If I was really anti-semeitic I would have not have as a good friend somebody who is not only a Jew, but somebody who strongly identifies with a religion, culture and philosophy that diverges form mine in many areas.
I have already made it clear on several occasions that I have nothing against the people of any religion, race or culture. It is ideas, concepts, beliefs and philosophies I have problems with and these are not people. If you are denying me the right to freely think for myself you are oppressing my free thinking and opposing everything progressive civilisation stands for. If it were not for free thinkers we would be still living in the dark ages.
The political definition of antisemiticism is when one criticises Israel or the Jewish religion, its history and scriptures. This is obviously a fallacy. Israel and the Jewish religion are not beyond criticism. To say we cannot criticise Israel or the Jewish relgion and history is again oppression of free thinking and opposing everything progressive civilisation stands for.
We must mature to the point where anybody and everybody can freely discuss and debate ideas, philosophies, beliefs, without having to face censorship, personal attacks and other sanctions.
[QUOTE=Surya Deva;46505]Anti-semiticism has both a literal and a political definition. Literally, it simply means to have prejudiced views against the semitic people - the jews. I don’t know many Jews personally myself, but one of my best friends who values me quite highlly, who is very spiritual is jewish and an expert on Kabbalah. He respects me and my philosophical differences with him and my critcisms of the OT, and I likewise respect him and his criticisms of HInduiksm. We often meet up in the pub and have lively, friendly discussions and fun and banter.
If I was really anti-semeitic I would have not have as a good friend somebody who is not only a Jew, but somebody who strongly identifies with a religion, culture and philosophy that diverges form mine in many areas.[/quote]
No one believes this, you know that right?
I have already made it clear on several occasions that I have nothing against the people of any religion, race or culture. It is ideas, concepts, beliefs and philosophies I have problems with and these are not people. If you are denying me the right to freely think for myself you are oppressing my free thinking and opposing everything progressive civilisation stands for. If it were not for free thinkers we would be still living in the dark ages.
The political definition of antisemiticism is when one criticises Israel or the Jewish religion, its history and scriptures. This is obviously a fallacy. Israel and the Jewish religion are not beyond criticism. To say we cannot criticise Israel or the Jewish relgion and history is again oppression of free thinking and opposing everything progressive civilisation stands for.
We must mature to the point where anybody and everybody can freely discuss and debate ideas, philosophies, beliefs, without having to face censorship, personal attacks and other sanctions.
LOL :rolleyes:
Indra Deva, it will soon become clear to all objective and rational readers that myself, Neitzsche are not the demons you have made us out to be, but free thinkers who value the values of democracy and progress. Conversely, it will become just as clear to them that you stand for the opposite.
As your posts often lack substance, with little in the form of evidence, research and coherent arguments and are often nothing more than ridicule and/or personal attacks or links to extremist anti-Indian web sites, it will become increasingly clearer and clearer to the objective reader you posts are worthy of little consideration. In the end the objective reader will end up siding with the position that does provide substance.
You would never be able to get away with that you write here in a professional and academic forum.
You do the same thing, SD. You make outrageous accusations against Christianiaty, and rarely support it, or go to anti-Christian sights like “religious tolerance” as a “respectable and unbiased” source. You are not much different when you go on the attack.
Read the OP. All claims have been supported with extensive citations from peer-reviewed expert sources on religion.
You are on losing ground here.
It is to be noted and something I would like to bring to the attention of the objective reader of the type kinds of claims that are seen in threads in the religion forum. They are
Claims which are supported with evidence such as citations, logical arguments, empirical evidence, historical evidence. These claimants put in the most effort to make sure they make a coherent case supported by evidence to support their claims. They often write in neutral/academic style of language and are critical
Claims which are not supported with evidence. These claimants put in the least effort and do not feel they need to make a coherent case. They engage in little more than rheotric, character assassination or supposition. They often appeal to known formal and informal fallacies, such as the appeal to faith. They often write in emotional style of language and are not critical of differences.
This thread is an example of 1 for a claim has been made that the OT is a barbaric and savage scripture, and then evidence is provided by citing from a peer reivewed expert source on religion which has collected passages in the OT where barbaric and savage acts are described explicitly such as Moses ordering people to kill 32,000 children in front of their mothers, then having the mothers killed and then having 32,000 young women taken captive to be raped.
Biblical scholars have been referenced who have documented the number of savage and barbaric passages in the OT, and have verified that such savagry and barbarism is the most commonly mentioned activity described in the OT.
The objective reader will clearly see that the case the OP has made has been demonstrated beyond a reason of doubt.
Hi Surya Deva,
I have spent a bit of time now and read some of your posts. The earliest one was July 2010 “Living Masters-authentic traditions”. Here is your post for your memory:
Namaste,
I[I] would really appreciate any help or pointers from members here on whether you know any living masters or authentic spiritual traditions that I can join.
I am looking to spend up to 2 years or more practicing in the tradition under a master, during which I do not want any involvement in the world, I just want to dedicte myself to my spiritual practice.
Do you know of any such tradition and masters where I can do this? [/I]
From your most recent posts I have learnt that you are a Hindu, of Hindu parents, but born in England? So why do you go on-line and ask us people from the West to find an authentic living master? Surely your Hindu community in England would have plenty of Yoga Masters at hand?
You changed from your first post (humbly asking advice)into a venom spitting Hindu Cobra! I don’t like the Old Testament myself, but I think you are way too fanatical. And I really don’t understand why you ask this forum to provide you with an authentic Yoga Master, when you no doubt have Hindu contacts in England and abroad?? A simple google search will give you plenty of so called “Yoga Masters”.
My Ex-Master’s name is Swami Maheshwarananda, founder of Yoga in Daily Life. www.yogaindailylife.org. You will probably fit in quite well there. Elisabeth
SD,
You claimed that bestiality was condoned in the Bible, when in fact it is condemned.
I asked you many times to address this, and you ignorned it.
Careless assertions like this make me wonder if you are careless in other assertions, and makes me question your credibility. Some credibility could be restored if you could admit you made a mistake.
in the OT where barbaric and savage acts are described explicitly such as Moses ordering people to kill 32,000 children in front of their mothers, then having the mothers killed and then having 32,000 young women taken captive to be raped.
Let’s take this incident and see if we can put it in perspective and find some context.
Please cite the verse and chapter from the Bible, and I’ll see what I can do with it.
You should never underestimate how much others may be able to help you. I have done plenty of research myself for living or authentic masters, and part of my research has been asking around people who know them. This is a Yoga forum and it is one of the best places to ask as there is good possibility people here have contacts with masters.
It is ironic that I am the one fanatical and yet I am the one of the few on this forum who is condemning genocide, racism, superstition, censorship and fighting for free thinking, progress and democracy. The truth is, people like you who admit they do not like the OT, have not let their voice be heard. You speak up against false-gurus and even have made a web site against them, but you do not speak up against the obvious barbarism and savagry in the OT, in fact on the contrary you speak up against the one speaking against it.
The problem with many people on this forum is they censor all criticism of the Abrahamic religions. Anybody criticising these religions is demonized. It is clear then that these people have vested interests in maintaining Abrahamic values - yes the same Abrahamic values which lead to the crusades, inqusitions, witch burnings and Moses ordering the torture, slaughter and rape of 32,000 children, mothers and virgins. The same Abrahamic values that are responsible for the dire state of the world today.
When you set up a web site to rile against the above than I will take your criticisms of myself more seriously.
[QUOTE=elisabeth111;46526]Hi Surya Deva,
I have spent a bit of time now and read some of your posts. The earliest one was July 2010 “Living Masters-authentic traditions”. Here is your post for your memory:
Namaste,
I[I] would really appreciate any help or pointers from members here on whether you know any living masters or authentic spiritual traditions that I can join.
I am looking to spend up to 2 years or more practicing in the tradition under a master, during which I do not want any involvement in the world, I just want to dedicte myself to my spiritual practice.
Do you know of any such tradition and masters where I can do this? [/I]
From your most recent posts I have learnt that you are a Hindu, of Hindu parents, but born in England? So why do you go on-line and ask us people from the West to find an authentic living master? Surely your Hindu community in England would have plenty of Yoga Masters at hand?
You changed from your first post (humbly asking advice)into a venom spitting Hindu Cobra! I don’t like the Old Testament myself, but I think you are way too fanatical. And I really don’t understand why you ask this forum to provide you with an authentic Yoga Master, when you no doubt have Hindu contacts in England and abroad?? A simple google search will give you plenty of so called “Yoga Masters”.
My Ex-Master’s name is Swami Maheshwarananda, founder of Yoga in Daily Life. www.yogaindailylife.org. You will probably fit in quite well there. Elisabeth[/QUOTE]