Kriya yoga

Does anyone here practice Kriya yoga? Path of which guru do you follow? Why have you chosen exactly this type of yoga and this guru?
I am just a beginner and it is very interesting for me to hear your opinions!
Thanks in advance for your answers!

Hi, I received diksha from swami shankarananda, but i didn?t take note of the taught kriyas and actually I practice satyananda?s KY (kundalini tantra). This one is tougher as it is required to feel the chakra and kshetram trigger points as one ascends and descends arohan and awarohan, and unmani mudra has to be performed while descending. After 3 years I haven?t mastered the basic exercise yet, isolating a chakra takes me some seconds, and unmani mudra is a hell to perform. Meditation after a KY session is powerful, and amrita nectar is a glorious boon. Now I?m looking for a second diksha. This time Iĺl have the notebook handy… :slight_smile:

[B]panoramix[/B], why do you want to receive a second diksha? You don’t like your guru?
I found the information about Swami Shankarananda. He is not a hindus. Did you become his disciple only because he lives in Australia? Don’t you think that a real guru can be only a hindus?

He is not a hindus. Did you become his disciple only because he lives in Australia? Don't you think that a real guru can be only a hindus?

That is absolute nonsense, which even the spiritual traditions themselves have been expounding for the sake of gathering more and more disciples. If you are following a Buddhist teacher, then he will tell you that the only way towards the Truth is through Buddhism, if you are following a Hindu teacher, then naturally, he will also be speaking in favor of his own tradition. That is the problem once you start becoming a teacher as part of the lineage of a certain tradition - now you can only teach according to the ways of that tradition, you can only transmit whatsoever is in agreement with the philosophy, the creeds, the beliefs systems, of that tradition. Otherwise, you may be offending authorities which are far higher than you on the hierarchy. All organized religions function according to a heirarchy which is not different than a political structure. So no, that one must be a Hindu to be a guru is absolute nonsense. The word guru itself has nothing at all to do with something social or religious, it simply means the dispeller of darkness. Gu means dispeller, and ru means darkness. Anything which dispels the darkness of your own ignorance is your guru. It need not manifest in a human form. And before you can become capable of transmitting the light to others, you will first have to dig deep into your own innermost being and discover your own Buddha flame. So all that is needed is not to be a Hindu or a Buddhist, but to be a Buddha. And a Buddha is not somebody who is following a certain tradition - once you have a direct experience of truth, and learn how to integrate this experience in your moment to moment living - then you yourself are the living Truth. No belief system or philosophy is needed as a replacement - you have come to know of something far more essential which is a communion of your own consciousness with existence.

If you want to learn something like kriya yoga, then it may be useful to seek the help of a kriya yoga master. But a master of yoga is not somebody who is trying to transmit a philosophy or a belief system, he is simply transmitting a method which can be used towards your own direct experience of Truth. If he has come to his awakening, then certainly, he knows very well that the Truth cannot be organized. But what is needed is a method. And anybody who is trying to indoctrinate you into a certain way of thinking which destroys your intelligence is perhaps passing off as a guru, and there have been many teachers like this, but he is not the true guru. Such a teacher can only transmit knowledge, but he cannot assist you towards your transformation.

[B]AmirMourad[/B], I understand your way of thought, you are right.
But I must also say, that it was a bad choice of words on my part. English is not my native language and it’s quite hard for me to express my thoughts. But I’ll try.
Maybe nationality and religion don’t matter, but I compare yoga with the language. You can study, for instance, the Chinese language from a person who have never been to China. But you can’t be sure that he’ll teach you right. Do you understand what I mean?
I just want to be sure that a person who dispels the darkness inside of me knows what he does.

[QUOTE=minuteness;64595][B]panoramix[/B], why do you want to receive a second diksha? You don’t like your guru?
I found the information about Swami Shankarananda. He is not a hindus. Did you become his disciple only because he lives in Australia? Don’t you think that a real guru can be only a hindus?[/QUOTE]

We don’t talk about the same, it’s from the Giri lineage the guru I say.
I want a second diksha for taking notes and learning the techniques. Diksha and techniques are given together.

No, I don’t think being hindu in its strict sense is mandatory for a good guru. God is beyond religion.

[B]panoramix[/B], oh, I got it.
I asked about his nationality, because in Moscow, Russia, where I live, people are going to India to find their guru. I guess here they can’t find a proper guru.
And I also heard from some of these people about Shailendra Sharma. He teaches kriya yoga techniques. Did you hear anything about him?

Personally I’d prefer my guru was hindu, as it’s the religion I feel for, and in my opinion, the greatest.

No, I didn’t hear about him. Thanks for the reference.

Satyananda’s KY is very powerful…

[B]panoramix[/B], tell me, are you only interested in techniques which you practice or you are also interested in a personality of a guru who developed this techniques?

I’m interested in the techniques.

[B]panoramix[/B], on the contrary, (I know it’s no good) I pay a lot of attention to the personality of a guru.