just trying to understand how kundalinin is different from other ones… except fast pace and sequence ???
CityMonk,
The traditional kundalini Yoga involves stages of practice such Shatkarmas (cleansing techniques), asanas (poses), pranayamas (breathing exercises) and finally working on chakras in order to awaken the kundalini shakti and rise it upward from Mooladhara chakra (root chakra) to make the same meet with shiva at Shahashrara chakra (crown chakra). This kundalini Yoga should not be practiced by the most householders. However, a committed householder with above average attitude towards making deliberate changes in his/her Yoga practice and life style and, with specific need and purpose, may practice the same.
In case, you or someone is mean kundalini by a brand name that involves practice of asanas mostly, then can it can be done by the most householders.
I believe choosing a Yoga style should depend on factors like age, state of health, personality, need and purpose.
Might be worthwhile to add to the discussion that all yoga is designed to raise the Kundalini, even Hatha Yoga ? Sun/Moon or Ida/Pingala which when joined ignite Kundalini…
Most known as Kundalini Yoga in the West is a branch brought to us by Yogi Bhajan, which is certainly safe to be practiced by everyone.
Kundalini Shakti is a word used to denote a “type of energy” that has multiple functions and therefore - various - highly valuable uses.
It is a topic of study for the neophyte “knower of the self” and a tool of the adept.
It’s true uses are only hinted at, and it’s operational techniques [I]plainly[/I] hidden. Many people think they know about it because they’ve read some things, and studied up in the books and they will try to explain it to you - without actual experience of ‘It’. Most if not all of these people know only enough to be dangerous
[I]It is of Hatha Yoga, and should be left alone until you have acheived a glimpse of the self. [/I]
As it is well known - Kundalini yoga is a brand name for certain physical and mental exercises collated and developed by a buisnessman who called himself yogi bijan. Some of his story can be found on the internet. It’s a curious read.
[QUOTE=HealthAndYoga;77050]CityMonk,
The traditional kundalini Yoga involves stages of practice such Shatkarmas (cleansing techniques), asanas (poses), pranayamas (breathing exercises) and finally working on chakras in order to awaken the kundalini shakti and rise it upward from Mooladhara chakra (root chakra) to make the same meet with shiva at Shahashrara chakra (crown chakra). [/QUOTE]
the same is hatha yoga, look at the Hatha yoga Pradipika. this is why i posted the link, cause the guy in the turban says that Hatha yoga should not be practiced by regular householder, but he should practice Kundalini instead, cause it takes you to the god quicker
anyways, I was meant to ask your comment on the link i shared, not hear your opinion on yoga styles
[QUOTE=shoonya;77053]Might be worthwhile to add to the discussion that all yoga is designed to raise the Kundalini, even Hatha Yoga – Sun/Moon or Ida/Pingala which when joined ignite Kundalini…
Most known as Kundalini Yoga in the West is a branch brought to us by Yogi Bhajan, which is certainly safe to be practiced by everyone.[/QUOTE]
that what i think, but i’ve heard many times that the one by the “business man” Bhajan in dangerous and drives people crazy, which i disbelieve as well…
It is one of the quickest ways to enlightenment. Jnana Yoga is my favorite. I feel you limit yourself by following only one path, find the ones that resonate with you. I would say the only requirement for kundalini yoga and other advanced practices is being serious about what your getting into.
CitiMonk,
There are several approaches to enlightenment and there are six schools of yoga itself. To say that one is better than the other cannot be in absolute terms but in the context of an individual. That is a complex equation.
Each individual accumulates spiritual legacy across lives and in the present one doesn’t know about it until back on the path. That’s what makes some people make a quick progress while others struggle. Similar effect is of choices we make in life. Even in this thread, you will see that we are not talking of ‘yoga as life’ but ‘yoga as [U]part[/U] of life’ (often small) On the spiritual path, (as Shoonya correctly says) it is all about prana, the life force. When we learn to generate it and deploy in the whole body unhindered, we are free from any external dependence, ready for samadhi.
Kundalini is that ultimate prana process, but typical to old cryptic writings, it is wrapped up in myths of goddess and worship. (Less said the better about Kundalini Yoga, as one of those adaptations, innovations and brand-creations.) But, it is important to know that all spiritual paths are unique, simply because each individual brings different legacies, makes different life choices and the advanced practice is in the inner domain accessible only to the individual and his inner guru. So, no external support (even the greatest authority or the best book) is of limited or no use.
In my view, a householder’s spiritual muscles are tested more rigorously due to the unfriendly environment but otherwise, for a largely inner practice how come the external engagements matter? Being a householder or otherwise is a product of the other legacy, of karma.
No method is good or bad, easy or dangerous, it so becomes in the hands of individuals and their shrewd/ ineligible teachers, if any. One has to chart the course, pave the path, walk the walk all by oneself.
[QUOTE=shoonya;77053]Might be worthwhile to add to the discussion that all yoga is designed to raise the Kundalini, even Hatha Yoga ? Sun/Moon or Ida/Pingala which when joined ignite Kundalini…
Most known as Kundalini Yoga in the West is a branch brought to us by Yogi Bhajan, which is certainly safe to be practiced by everyone.[/QUOTE]
Shoonya,
The most types of Yoga (i.e. Bhakti Yoga, Karma Yoga, Jynana Yoga, Sahaj Yoga (means Integral Yoga), Mantra Yoga, Yantra Yoga, etc.) are neither Kunalini Yoga nor the steps involves in their path involves it.
Hatha Yoga, Kundalini Yoga and some forms of Tantra Yoga do involves process of awakening Kundalilni Shakti and its upward movement aimed at meetinig Shiva at Sahasrara Chakra.
well…i’m still not getting something…Hatha yoga pradipika is considered to be a text on Hatha yoga, but is spends quite about 70% of a text on pranayana, kundalini and different vajus
Citimonk,
I see it this way … finally all yoga is about prana. Pranayama is managing it, kundalini is the proverbial power that pure prana energy potentially has, and vayus are the conditioned substance that is not yet purified as prana.
Yoga is also about inner evolution and that needs reversing the out-bound orientation. Once reversed it has to stay within, depending on no knowledge and energy from outside. Pure prana has both. So, the ultimate union is enabled by prana. Now this seems to be the general plan and Hatha Yoga (the physical) Bhakti Yoga (the emotional) Dnyana Yoga (the intellectual) and Raja Yoga (the mental) appear to be methods on different levels, with each having many approaches and styles.
The common description gives us 5 vayus residing in different parts of the body and create currents/ forces. Vyana (towards the exterior) Samaan (towards the interior) Udaan (upwards) Apaan (downwards) while Pranavayu remains the metabolic force. The various exercises purify the vayus to release them from their confinement and unite. In the final stage vayus become prana and together create an incredible force, perhaps described as kundalini that rises upwards.
Now at times we tend to equate or measure force from what we know in life. The kundalini force would make any known energy or force look like just a shiver. But, prana is intelligent too. So, when it is purified and managed in a natural way it supplies energy to all the vital and metabolic functions of all the gross to subtle bodies. Please tell me if this model makes sense.
Thank you Suhas, your posts are very nice and comprehensive:)
How is your book doing?
as well sir that was very well written and informative.
what are the group’s thoughts on diet for the kriya or kundalini yogi?
Citimonk/ Seeking, Thanks.
About the book? I have no clue. Should be doing ok for the first timer, unknown writer (whose English is a second tongue) with unfriendly style, on a non-fiction subject of interest to but a few. Some readers write and say it is good but so intense they can’t read more than 10 pages at a time. And one Amazon reseller is selling it for $114 (cover price is $25)!!! Can’t make any sense out of it. I think the publisher has got to tell me when the 1st edition is sold; that is if I am still around. Thanks for asking.