Kundalini

i want to know detailed information regarding kundalini awakaning through yoga

Practice yoga, and it will wake. All other informnation is just talk, and thus, totally useless.

Start by yama and niyama. Observe it for a week. Start a diary, to check your progress. Identify personal weaknesses. Deal with them. This will create good foundation for asana practice. Than when you are strong, and balanced enough, start pranayama. Of course all this time you need to be prepared to face your own karma. Personal life is guided by karma. Some karmic events will push you off this road. Trust the wisdom of your karma. Study, read genuine spiritual literature. All religions have some kind of scripture, that will do it, as they passed the test of time. There is no shortcut, no fast course, no trick. Even the mentioned bases need years to develop … surely some have better fates, and other worse, but generally, when I say years, that is true.

There are ways to tackle into things one is not ready for, but they are extremely dangerous. So when they say kundalini yoga can be practiced by a knowledgable master only, they are perfectly right.
For me the real question is … why would I need kundalini at all ? Where am I lacking ? Why this level I use day by day, is not enough ? Why do I want more ? What would I do with more power ? Because kundalini is power.
What I learnt, the more power I have, the greater the temptation is to use it in a selfish way. So I do not want more power, because I even abuse the little power I have now. I am terrified by the thought what temptations greater power would bring. Imagine the level of detachment, self control, willpower, self-sacrifice needed to resist such temptations.
Sadly, we gain these traits by being tempted … that we cannot escape … but better face them well prepared, with a solid grounding.

[QUOTE=Hubert;15113]Practice yoga, and it will wake. All other informnation is just talk, and thus, totally useless.

For me the real question is … why would I need kundalini at all ? Where am I lacking ? Why this level I use day by day, is not enough ? Why do I want more ? What would I do with more power ? Because kundalini is power.
What I learnt, the more power I have, the greater the temptation is to use it in a selfish way. So I do not want more power, because I even abuse the little power I have now. I am terrified by the thought what temptations greater power would bring. Imagine the level of detachment, self control, willpower, self-sacrifice needed to resist such temptations.
Sadly, we gain these traits by being tempted … that we cannot escape … but better face them well prepared, with a solid grounding.[/QUOTE]

In my opinion you are right stating that first you have to purify yourself,
with yama and niyama.

However, Kundalini power (like any yoga power) is not meant to be used
for siddhis, to get the uppper hand in relations with other people.

My understanding is that Kundalini yoga is actually Laya yoga, the power of
dissolution of your karmas.

I watched in 2008 a TV documentary in Canada. A guy was running the marathon (42 km and 195 meters) in subarctic temperatures of minus 30
degrees centigrades. The point: he was running just naked, only with undetrshirts and shoes. He was not an yoga practitioner.

It is known that many yogis in Himalayas are summarily dressed. What else than Kundalini sustains them ?

? rather limiting definition of Kundalini.
Kundalini is more much much more she is at first just prana, then as you become aware of her presence you see her as the devi force that presides you, she becomes shakti ? the very shakti which propels the mind & the body to commune with & understand your true immutable self. When you finally fall into the devi?s arms and she holds you fully there. She is love; it is not a question of how much she loves you. Finding her you find that you are also love. …

So for me Kundalini is not shidis & powers but a devine presence as stated in this
http://www.yogaforums.com/forums/f16/wordsworth-on-prana-2623.html
lovely Poem.

Namaste,
Fin

Kundalini yoga is not an easy path. It looks like improperly practised, without the guidance of a guru, can lead to unpleasant effects.

In my opinion, Hubert is quite right saying that there is no short cut to it.

Take e.g. the classic book "Hatha Yoga Pradipika." It says that you have first to master the asanas. Generally it takes 12 years to do it. Maybe less, maybe more, depending on the practitioner. Yoga takes a lifetime of practice.

[quote=oak333;15134]In my opinion you are right stating that first you have to purify yourself,
with yama and niyama.

However, Kundalini power (like any yoga power) is not meant to be used
for siddhis, to get the uppper hand in relations with other people.

[/quote]

You are stating here the obvious, yet, that it is not meant for that does not mean it can’t be used. If you think that just your mental acception of the fact that it’s not meant for selfish needs, and this “Not right” label will stop you misusing them, however, you are wrong. That’s why you don’t have it , yet. :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=Hubert;15144]You are stating here the obvious, yet, that it is not meant for that does not mean it can’t be used. If you think that just your mental acception of the fact that it’s not meant for selfish needs, and this “Not right” label will stop you misusing them, however, you are wrong. That’s why you don’t have it , yet. :)[/QUOTE]

I think that the aim is to awake kundalini flow through the chakras, until it
reaches the center at the crown of the head. Than the yogi attains liberation.

And I have read this a thousand times, both in sutras, upanishads and in statements of fellow posters. So while you say you are the one thinking this, I say, it is not your thinking but someone else’s. You just accepted it.
And while I accept it too, it is an useless chunk of information. Personal expereince is what matters. I have been an atheist, a yogi, a buddhist, a child, a lover, a husband, a father, a contractor, a boss, and so many things … and all these are just various mindsets. Most of the time I have been a clown, because I could not bare the seriousness of the personas people identify with. I am not any of the above mentioned things. My mind can take any shape. It takes the shape of anything I focus it on. Because of this, the best thing is to focus on God, who, contrary of what is beleived, for a human being is nothing but darkness, emptiness, nothingness. silence. When you focus on this God, the mind becomes nothing, dark, empty and silent. When we focus on somethig we think we know, than we become one with that illusion.

Dead thinking is what keepitlow so beautifully showcased with that quote about thinking for most being the rearrangement of their prejudices’. Live thinking is when heart, soul, will and thought go all togheter, vitalizing each other. When thoughts become ideals, what immediatly warm your heart, and strenghten your will. Than thought is alive, and part of the spiritual world itself.

Many are called, few are chosen.

I will take the example of a football player. They start training early in llife, as kids, juniors, third league, second league, first league, national tesm. How many reach the national team ? How many reach the status of Pele, the best footbalist ever ?

Many football players give up before reaching even the first leasgue.

Same thing with yoga practitioners. Many give up along the way, disillusioned because of
"lack of results." They either give up yogs totally, or continue to practise it individually,
as students or as teachers, mostly because of inertia.

In my opinion, in yoga you do not have to work for results. They will come sooner or later. You have to work for the sake of the work itself. Desire for results is a form of attachment, with negative consequences.

By the way. You might not see the results, but they might still be there. Maybe you still have karmas to redeem. Maybe God does not want you YET. Who knows ? As Yogananda wrote: “God is playing hide and seek with you.”

Definitely correct: “Personal experience is what matters.” But to reach that personal experience you have to believe that it exists. Whom to believe than the people who have got it ?

      The Awakened Ones are few in number
       and harder still to find.

        Dhammapada, Lord Buddha.

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL !

In Toronto it is a lot of snow but tomorrow I am going to Costa Rica, where it is quite warm. Probably the inhabitants of Costa Rica have never seen snow in their country.

Years ago, as a result of very intense yoga practise, I think that I have have experienced some kundalini awakening. I did a lot of self-practise and went to a lot of classes…

Just a few times I would experience a hissing whistling in my ears and my vision would ‘white out’. I perceived it to be a good thing.