Making a Christian a better Christian

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;61657]You are just being silly now and do not realise how much of disservice you are doing to Vedic dharma. Like I said you are definitely showing your age on your inability to take criticism and inability to be objective and take a broad vision. As critical as I am of the West, I am frankly tired of your constant condemnation of Western people, denial of the good Western people and your obvious hypocrisy in saying as a Hindu you own Yoga, but Western people don’t own physics(about 90% of the development of physics is Western you fool) Your knee jerk reactions to every Westerner on this forum, including those sympathetic or supportive to the Vedic cause, such as High Wolf recently and to label them all white supremists, bigots just makes you look like an idiot. I am bring very frank now.

The greatest irony here is you have not even practiced Yoga or barely read any of the scriptures. You are not Hindu mate, you are a nationalist. And you are a nationalist only so you can defend yourself against your class mates.[/QUOTE]

I acknowledge your criticisms of me; time and time again I have admitted my numerous flaws publicly on these forums and time and time again I have apologized to people I have offended.

But [B]your[/B] inability to objectively accept criticisms of hypocrisy shows your lack of emotional development. You are a hypocrite, and your sententious mannerisms are conveying just that. Every single person on this forum can pull up posts showing the numerous contradictions your posts are littered with. For example, you repeatedly claim to think in general terms of “humanity” and yet, made racist remarks about your kind. Only trashy excuses for humans make fun of their own race.

Furthermore, I have never seen you admit to being wrong within the context of a debate, not once. Yet, you expect others to do the same. You claim that you always win because you represent the truth. However, it is obvious to even the layman that you are as biased as any human on this planet.

Every single thing you have accused me off can also reflect you. That is why I take your pretentious moralizing as nothing more than sewage.

If people like David and High Wolf told me to fix myself, I would listen. Why? 'Cause they actually know what the hell they are talking about. You? Never.

Once again, I have never said I own Yoga. This is your strawman. You keep misrepresenting my arguments like a ignominious fool.

Let me state, for the umpteenth time, my argument; cultural practices are the birthright and identity of people within that culture. It is their responsibility to ensure its correct interpretation and to defend it.

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Got it? One more time, for clarification.

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Rather, we, as Hindus, should spread the practice and create more tolerance and acceptance. BUT when such a thing is not happening, it is our responsibility to make sure the manner in which it is spread is changed. I believe the teaching (NOT PREACHING) of Indian culture and values would allow more people to not only learn Yoga, but to appreciate its cultural roots and the customs and practices of Indians.

Now you’re just being stupid. I have acknowledged “good Westerners” such as High Wolf, Pietro, Byron Morrigan, and so on. When I lost my temper with High Wolf and accused him of being a bigot and a white supremacist when he was deriding Indian culture, I apologized to him 4 times (yes, I counted); he eventually forgave me in a post that was directed to both me and you. I even told him that I should have realized that had I responded kindly to his statements and showed him the links/evidence about the diversity of Indian clothing, etc, such a misunderstanding would not have happened.

Unfortunately, you are blind and are unable to see this as well.

Yes, I admit that I sometimes have “knee-jerk” reaction to Westerners. However, this is out of extreme caution of the biases they hold. Have you lost count of how many times an ethnic vibe against Indians/Hindus/etc have been said on this forum? This is just the cherry-topping on the cake, for biases like these have existed in Western society for centuries and do exist all over the Western world. When I accuse someone of having supremacist biases, it is not malice but truth. It is in their culture and history and it is the status quo of today: The Western world dominates materially.

Yes, I do not practice Yoga and I admit that I have never read many of our scriptures (I have read a considerable proportion of the Puranas but these, of course, don’t constitute much of our thousands upon thousands of scriptures). Hang in there, I’m working it. You have about twice the experience and age as I do. You cannot expect me to

I’m not a nationalist and neither is that the reason I am allegedly a nationalist. I have ethnic pride in my identity but also deeply respect the accomplishments of other civilizations and their cultures, unlike you, a Hindu supremacist (Remember the post in which I was glorifying the Chinese?). But you never gets to see that side of me since discussions always revolve around the A.Rs and the W.W. Since when does derailing the West make one a “nationalist?” It does not compute.

My so-called “petty squabbles” transcend discrimination in the classrooms. You are being very dishonest and contemptible by making such a statement.

If I went to India and travelled through it, I bet I could find thousands that have wrong impressions, about Britain, incorrect information… You are not making enough room for the average person who has not the slightest interest in learning about India or Hinduism and is just getting by in their world, as best as they can…

Of course not. But how many Indians would you come across who scorn the “primitive savages,” believe in the absolute superiority of their race, and believe they were the source of all of civilization’s values? Almost next to none.

I don’t believe that school shapes you. This might happen in a private, smaller school but state schools are overcrowded and individual attention to help build the character is missing. It is the home where the most influence is found… For example…both of my sons speak like me, the Queens English, with North London hints in accent, but they were born and raised in Sheffield, England…Sheffield people have a distinct Sheffield, Northern accent…so here is a perfect example that it is the home that shapes most of you.

Good point. In the end, its a mixture of home and school. For me however, its school that has played the most important role in shaping my life, especially intellectually.

In Scotland, the historical accounts of battles against the English are relayed to the Scottish children in a completely different way to the English version of the same battles.
There is only so much that can be taught in Schools…someone wishing to become an expert in say, Scottish Historical battles will research it and get all the info…When we want to become an expert on something, we research it and find the truth…you cannot expect everyone here to be educated to the level , you want…

Yes. Every nation is like that. But the majority of nations don’t depict themselves as the prime race, the only contributers to math, science, philosophy, and so forth.

I know people who live in Sheffield and think that if your from Essex, you are a Londoner!!..hilarious, I have come across this so many times. I realise it is because the person hasn’t a clue where Essex is…lack of education…but remember, some people do not want to be educated to the levels you are wanting…

You will need to get used to the E in Persia…India is going the same way.

I believe it should happen. I personally think, like you, that a lack of education and a lot of ignorance is the root of many, if not all, problems in the world.

If you choose not to educate yourself, are you are not dishonoring your society and country?

Yes, I have said India is superior to the West in every way, except in technology. You can review my posts I have never said otherwise. You can also review my posts to see I have always maintained from the start the West have many good people, good things going on like the spiritual movement in the West.

It is not just superior to the West in technology. It is generally materially superior, and that includes the sciences.

Whenever I have said the West is materially superior, you have admonished me and said “Nietzsche, our old colonial systems were more advanced than Western capitalism.” Lol wut?

There is no double speak here, you are just being an idiot and refusing to see what I am saying: Be objective, balanced and considered in your criticism. Reward merit where there is merit and punish where there is demerit. I criticise the West for its capitalism/materialism and plunder etc, but I reward it where there is good, such as the growing spiritual movement in the West.

You are just being an idiot and refusing to see what I am saying: Be true to your words, stop misrepresenting other’s arguments, and consider the criticism of others.

I criticize the West for its religious, economic, societal, and political system but “am in high heavens” (to use your own words) about its intellectual and artistic traditions.

I say Western culture is barbaric, I don’t say every Western person is barbaric. In fact, sorry to say Neitzsche, but I have so many Westerner friends which are twice as spiritual as you are. I don’t see what is spiritual about you - what I see is blind nationalism. You don’t practice Yoga and nor have you studied the philosophy in any degree of depth.
If you are going to defend dharma first know what you are talking about and do it sincerely, and not out of blind nationalism or just to spite your class mates. Your intentions are immature and frankly wrong.

Once again, you are being an imbecile. I don’t do what I do to spite my classmates, ignoramus. I do what I do to challenge Western pretensions of racial and ideological superiority, the underlying notions that make my peers, my fellow Texans, my fellow Americans, and Westerners think the way they do.

Of course they are twice as spiritual as I am. I have repeatedly acknowledged most, if not all, people on this forum are more knowledgeable about philosophy and spirituality than I am. If I claimed otherwise, then why the hell have I never posted about spirituality and philosophy on the other sections of the forum? But you choose not to acknowledge this.

However, you do make a point. I indeed need to learn more, much more, about my faith before I can [U]properly[/U] defend it. Still, I am knowledgeable enough that I can rebuke accusations such as “Hinduism is nothing more than paganism and a collection of rituals,” teach someone about Indian history, and so on. Notice that I have [U]never[/U] argued for or defended something regarding Santana Dharma that I did not know about. You yourself know that I have repeatedly PM’D you when I had a question about SD.

What nationalism? My criticisms of the West? My appreciation for all cultures and religions in this world except for Abrahamic ones? My ethnic pride but scorn for India’s future and Bhakti paths?

I have spent time making over 3000 posts on this forum because I enjoy discussing here. I have never claimed this forum is the world. You are making silly argumments that because people on this forum deny the origins of Yoga, that this is indicative of the entire West.

Just as I never claimed this forum was the world, no? Filthy hypocrite.

Once again, you misrepresent what I have been saying all along.

I have repeatedly said that the reason people on this forum deny the origins of Yoga is [U]characteristic[/U] of the anti-Hindu biases that litter Western academia and media.

I have never said

Yoga Forums = World.
Westerners say yoga predates Hinduism = Opinion of all Westerners.

You also say just because your school mates make fun of say Emerson that this is indicative of the entire West. For you this is some kind of popularity contest. So only 10% of the people you survey would not know who Heisenberg is - so? Only 10% of people know what E=mc^2 means and yet that single equation is responsible for the most dramatic development in the West: the atom bomb. Just because the masses do not know of Schrodinger, does not negate the fact on how dramatic the contributions of Schrodinger are to the West. Without Schrodinger we would not have computers.

You are so damn dense.

I have never said that my school is indicative of the entire West. I was using a specific example to prove me point that Emerson and Thoreau no longer hold as much impact in America as they once did. This is merely a fact. Am I not allowed to use evidence to prove my point?

It is not a popularity contest but a contest of importance and impact. My point was the majority of the people neither know nor [B][U]care[/U][/B] about the impact their scientists have had on their society. All they want is their IPod, IPad, Sex, Drugs, Porn, movies, job, and money.

Pay attention to my words idiot. I never implied the lack of importance they hold today is indicative of the inferiority of their theories.

Again you are doing a disservice to what is suppose to be your own cause by denying how prevalent and wide reaching Vedic dharma has been in the West. You continue to see the West with myopic eyes, without trying to understand it critically and in a balanced way. When I showed you how new thought Christianity is tolerant, accepting and pluralistic, you dismiss it by saying, “Well, they are considered heretics anyway” So? Does that change the fact that new thought Christianity has happened and is now changing how Christians view the world?

These “Christians” are in the minority and hold little to no influence in today’s society. Fundamentalist Christianity is the norm and is extremely resilient to external adulteration. America was practically shaped by the Puritans and their intolerant and ignorant brood and their influence is seen on the impact their ideology has had on conservative politics.

In short, such views are not changing how Christians view the world. I can ask my parents, who have lived in American longer than you have been alive, about the “impact” our views had on Christians, and they would laugh their asses off.

If you visit America, you can see what I mean when I utter with contempt, the name “Republican Party.”

Earlier, you rejected all the modern Western intellectuals bringing spirituality to the West like Rupert Sheldrake, Ken Wilber because they are not popular and are scoffted by your peers. If you were really supporting the Vedic cause, you would welcome this, not reject it. The reason you do not welcome this is because you are a nationalist, you want to keep Vedic dharma exclusively in india, rather than allow it to go beyond the borders of India and spread to the world. The reason for this is purely your ego - so you can spite your classmates. You are not willing to share Vedic dharma because you want to posssess it to make yourself proud. Well sorry Vedic dharma is not your possession and never was, it has always been for all of humanity. There are many Western people I know personally who understand Vedic dharma better than you. This is a disgrace for you Neitzsche. As an Indian Hindu it is you who should haver the superior understanding, and not the other way around. You would - if you stopped treating Vedic dharma like a means to win trival arguments with your classmates.

I suggest you stop it with the “because your peers” statements. They are not true and you merely say them to put up a show for the snickering onlookers. This is not Dharmic, Hindu, or Yogic. You have strayed from your path.

I actually said that Dharmic idealism has made little to no dent in the fabric of Western ideology. This is a fact. These Western spirituals have failed.

You are lying way too much at this point. As this is a rehash of your previous arguments, so I can skip these.

Yep, these are misconceptions which are spread in the West. Rather than sitting there complaining about it, do something about it by spreading the right information and dispelling the misconceptions. Do it in an objective, mature and balanced way - not like an idiot.

Shit head, I have already told you in a previous discussion what I have done to “spread the right information.”

Rubbish, it is a well known fact that most of the development of physics took place in the West and nowhere else. This is why it is in the West the steam engine, railways, factories, automobiles, aeroplanes, electronics were all developed. Prior to that there was something called natural philosophy, but physics as an empirical and experimental tradition was developed out of Western empiricism - the foundations were laid down by Francis Bacon, Hobbes, Locke et al.

I cannot see any Muslims, Indians or Chinese on that list Neitzsche. I can see that the history of physics is pretty much exclusively a Western affair. It is exclusive to the West as Yoga is as exclusive to India. If you cannot accept this obvious fact that physics was developed in Western culture, how you can you expect Westerners to say that Yoga was developed from Indian culture, you hypocrite?

Thank you for the information Western supremacist. :stuck_out_tongue: I think you should register at Stormfront you hypocrite. :smiley:

You are an idiot. While Westerners made most of the contributions of Physics, there were still more fundamental ones made by Chinese, Muslims, Indians, and Greeks. Your posting a timeline from a Western biased website does not prove your point. I suggest you start researching Muslim polymaths from the Islamic Golden Age and move backwards from there.

And once again, you just shit on everything you said in your argument against Quetzalcoatl. This is not being objective, factual, and honest. :stuck_out_tongue:

You still fail to understand that material knowledge does not belong to anyone. The technique of making rust-resistant iron does not “belong” to the Indians as must as the compass does not belong to the Chinese.

However, Tai Chi is Chinese and much as Yoga is Indian. This does not mean it “belongs” to them, but it also does not mean that anyone can just take it, insultingly commercialize it, use it for their selfish benefit, and still go around shitting on the Chinese and the Indians.

Cultural practices must be imparted with the right foundation. That is all I have been saying.

Unfortunately, we Hindus have suffered greatly by being extremely liberal in this regard.

India did not develop physics because India was focussed on spirituality. The West developed physics because it was focussed on physical matter. Physics is the culmination of Western empirical thought.

Mostly true. However, Indians discovered tidbits of fundamental physics knowledge here and there. I suggest you re-read your bitching against Quetzalcoatl. :lol:

There is no hypocrisy here. Indian science, logic, culture is vastly superior. India have superior sciences like metaphysical sciences. They are superior because while physics is limited only to the physical world, Indian sciences go beyond the physical into other dimensions that physics cannot touch. I never said Indian physics, chemistry etc was superior to the west. When it comes to material science and technology there should not even be a doubt how vastly superior the West is.

There is hypocrisy here. Physics is nothing more than an extension of math, which itself is applied logic. If Indian logical systems were superior, they would have developed Physics.

Our systems, although they were good, regrettably did not take us as far as the Westerners.

That is because I am humble so I correctly can evaluate where I am in terms of practical realisation of Yoga. I have indeed done many kinds of Yoga: Satyananda yoga, Anandamrga Yoga, Raja Yoga and Dynamic Yoga. I had a regular meditation practice for many years and I still meditate on and off. Now I am taking it to the next level.
You are sitting there telling Western people “We will not teach you barbarians OUR yoga” When you have never done Yoga yourself and nor have you studied the philosophy to any considerable depth. This is what makes you look like a joke Neitzsche.

You are not humble. :stuck_out_tongue:

You have no knowledge of Physics or Mathematics and you go around trying to act like a bad ass by giving incorrect definitions of simple concepts like Energy and Color, while failing miserably in teaching quantum mechanics and relativity. You are stupid in Physics and Math, admit it. Waxing philosophy without understanding the logic behind the subjects only leads to theoretical illusions.

I guess we are both equal, huh?

Or does one not need to have complete knowledge and understanding of a thing to make their opinions on it?

You decide, hypocrite. :smiley:

Of course I wouldn’t. Yoga does belong to Vedic dharma - but it does not belong to you. You don’t even practice Yoga. Similarly physics belongs to Western empirical and materialist tradition. Just as you do not need to get the permission of a Westerner to study physics, they don’t need to get permission from you to do yoga.

Do not say such stupid things that the Westerners need permission from Indian Hindus to study and practice Yoga. This is not what it says in our texts where it says we should spread our ways to the entire world. Our texts say manava dharma is the highest - not ones individual dharma.

The way I see it I will impart Vedic dharma to anybody who sincerenly seeks it, I don’t care what race they are, what gender, what sexuality or what age. Just as the Vedic risis did. Your forceful statements that you can personally vett who gets Vedic dharma based on what nationality or race they are are an absolute disgrace. Like I said I know so many Westerners who are twice as deserving as you are.

Yeah, exactly your intentions are nationalism. Santana dharma is secondary to you, you just use it as a prop to make yourself feel better about your racial heritage - without actually making an effort to understand it or practice it yourself.

I am remaining true to the universal vision of the founders of Santana dharma - “to make the whole world Aryan” You are a disgrace to their vision Neitzsche. They did not say they are only going to make India Aryan, they said the whole world. Dharma is universal and is for all of humanity - this is why is also called manava dharma.

Nationalism is an outdated idea in the global world we are living today because it is not tenable. Ideas, practices, products all get shared between cultures. Globalization is a fact, which we all need to accept. Stop being a neanderthal and get with the times - by the way the actual concept of globalization itself is vedic: vasudeva kutumbukum.
Today we are living in a Western materialist and consumer global world and dharma is dying out the world over. If you do not fight for dharma now, then dharma will be extinct on this planet. You need to think beyond the borders of India, because in todays worlds borders are no longer significant. Vedic dharma needs to spread to the entire world.
Contribute to the cause of dharma and not to the cause of winning trivial arguments with your class mates because your country gave the zero :smiley:

Nobody is Hindu just because they are born into a Hindu family. You are Hindu if you practice and accept and understand its tenets. Being Hindu is something realised. The word “Hindu” is used as synonym of “Aryan” in later Indian texts, both of which are a quality of character you cultivate.

If you want to be Hindu then learn more about your dharma and start to practice it. You can start by being honest, balanced and objective. I will go out of a limb and say: anybody who cannot be reasonable, honest and objective is NOT a Hindu. The Vedas say over and over again: cultivate the intellect, develop the intellect, refine the intellect. Practice satya in your life, always speak truth. You are not being true to yourself right now, especialy with your hypocrisy on how you own Yoga and the West do not own physics. You have double standards - one set for the West and one for yourself.

Neitzche, grow up. You have a lot of energy and passion but it is completely misplaced. That same energy when put to the cause of dharma will turn you into a worthy warrior of dharma. Help in bringing dharma to this world - or otherwise stop calling yourself Hindu, and admit you’re just an Indian nationalist.

O.K Dharmc imperialist. Have fun majestically traveling around the world, civilizing mlecchas and non-Aryans.

But I think you will last only two days MAX before you come back in bits and pieces.

Neitzsche, you are simply too immature to continue this conversation with you. So I am going to pass.

You are only a teenager. I was probably just like you at that age, so I will not judge you by the standards of an adult.

In any case people like Q reading this thread will realise I was never an Indian nationalist. I am a Hindu and I respect the vision of our forefathers and am doing my part to fulfill it. I don’t consider you a Hindu, but an Indian nationalist. I really hope you grow out of it later though. It is not a healthy or realistic way to look at the world.

Guys,

It saddens me to see two staunch Hindus lambaste each other. This is so typical of Indians that it is a well-known stereotype.

This thread is a great example as to why India was invaded. Internecine quarrels and finger-pointing will only lead to mutual destruction. There is much work to be done and both of you have excellent points.

I will avoid commenting on this thread’s topic as my views are quite straightforward; non-Hindus are nowhere nearly as spiritually developed and advanced as Indians/Hindus. Thus, they have their pathetic cults; Abrahamic or otherwise.

Once they progress, eventually, they will be born in India as Hindus. End of story.

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;61690]Neitzsche, you are simply too immature to continue this conversation with you. So I am going to pass.

You are only a teenager. I was probably just like you at that age, so I will not judge you by the standards of an adult.

In any case people like Q reading this thread will realise I was never an Indian nationalist. I am a Hindu and I respect the vision of our forefathers and am doing my part to fulfill it. I don’t consider you a Hindu, but an Indian nationalist. I really hope you grow out of it later though. It is not a healthy or realistic way to look at the world.[/QUOTE]

Once again, you beautifully display your immaturity in not accepting your hypocrisy.

I have already one of your criticisms to heart; the fact that i know largely nothing of Indian scriptures besides the Puranas. Summer has already begun for me (WOOOOOT!!! 3 MONTHS OF FUN!!) and this will give me adequate time to educate myself.

I am not an Indian nationalist. In fact, if the current state of India and Hindus are indeed representative of India and Hinduism, then I am staunchly anti-Hindu and anti-Indian.

I have deep respect for all other cultures in the world, from that of the Native Americans to that of the Japanese. Time and time again I have complimented these cultures. Your accusations are unfounded.

You are wrong. Our forefathers never intended to violate another culture’s sovereignty by proselytizing. This is immoral and wrong. All cultures all equal to one another within their respective contexts. That you are thinking of preaching Dharma is indicative of YOUR supremacist and intolerant views.

[QUOTE=TatTvamAsi;61701]Guys,

It saddens me to see two staunch Hindus lambaste each other. This is so typical of Indians that it is a well-known stereotype.

This thread is a great example as to why India was invaded. Internecine quarrels and finger-pointing will only lead to mutual destruction. There is much work to be done and both of you have excellent points.

I will avoid commenting on this thread’s topic as my views are quite straightforward; non-Hindus are nowhere nearly as spiritually developed and advanced as Indians/Hindus. Thus, they have their pathetic cults; Abrahamic or otherwise.

Once they progress, eventually, they will be born in India as Hindus. End of story.[/QUOTE]

TTA, thank you for your words but SD does have one valid point.

I am only nominally a Hindu. My knowledge of Hinduism does not progress beyond the Puranas.

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;61884]TTA, thank you for your words but SD does have one valid point.

I am only nominally a Hindu. My knowledge of Hinduism does not progress beyond the Puranas.[/QUOTE]

Whatever you know can be expanded upon over time. And, you mentioned you’re still in high school?

That means you will have PLENTY of opportunities to correct these shit-for-brains in college. You should start a Hindu group wherever you decide to go and if there’s one already, join it and make sure they don’t peddle this “ALL IS ONE YAAR” garbage.

Don’t underestimate yourself. Surya is doing a lot of good but you can also do that in your own way.

Looking back, some douchebags in high school tried to convert me to FILTHianity (went to a corpse-worshiping school) and I briefly described how stupid their cult was. End of senior year, they dropped christianity like a bad habit. LOL…

[QUOTE=TatTvamAsi;61948]Whatever you know can be expanded upon over time. And, you mentioned you’re still in high school?

That means you will have PLENTY of opportunities to correct these shit-for-brains in college. You should start a Hindu group wherever you decide to go and if there’s one already, join it and make sure they don’t peddle this “ALL IS ONE YAAR” garbage.

Don’t underestimate yourself. Surya is doing a lot of good but you can also do that in your own way.

Looking back, some douchebags in high school tried to convert me to FILTHianity (went to a corpse-worshiping school) and I briefly described how stupid their cult was. End of senior year, they dropped christianity like a bad habit. LOL…[/QUOTE]

Sadly yes, I’m still in high school.

Lol, maybe. Then again, I’m not a good in verbal argumentation/debating. I stutter and “blank-out” too much.

Yes, SD gave me a bunch of good links to free e-texts that the “founders” and proponents of Hindu philosophical sects wrote. I will sit down and start reading them once summer begins.

You went to a Catholic school!?!!?! What the heck were your parents thinking!?!?!?! And I’m officially impressed; its seems like you managed to convince a bunch of Christian fundamentalists to drop their faith.

TEECH ME YUR WAYZ!!!

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;61965]
You went to a Catholic school!?!!?! What the heck were your parents thinking!?!?!?![/quote]

Hahaha… Well… Catholic schools do have an excellent reputation for education. That, I give to them. In fact, they have gone around the world and established schools in various countries and brought about a common methodology of education adopted by most cultures around the world today (except the madrassah of course lol).

It is high time wealthy Hindus establish proper gurukulas around the world to spread Dharmic culture and inculcate Hindu values. It is a travesty that most Indians in the US send their kids to christian schools.

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;61965]And I’m officially impressed; its seems like you managed to convince a bunch of Christian fundamentalists to drop their faith.

TEECH ME YUR WAYZ!!![/QUOTE]

LOL… it’s easy… if they ever question Hinduism, you can destroy all three abrahamic cults like this:

1.) You believe in adam/eve fairy tale which supports incest – they had 3 sons. so that makes 4 males and one female… somebody was boinking… how did the rest of humanity come to be?

2.) your god (YAHOO) is supposed to be omnipresent (says in their books) – if so, your god is in hell too… so non-believers don’t have to worry… they will also be by “god’s side” :slight_smile:

3.) your god (YAHOO) is supposed to be omniscient – really? that means, free-will is bullshit because your god already knows what decision you’re going to make before you’re born. so where’s the “free will”? If it is already known… the decision is not independent… if it is… your god is no god at all and is a duffer…

there are many more pitfalls in their cults… many of them cherry-pick what to believe and what to take as historical… however, if you take jesus’ story as allegorical (some liberal christians will do this), then him as a sacrifice for humanity’s ‘sin’ is futile (if there are other paths to heaven)…

In essence, abrahamic religions (EFR - EPIC FAIL RELIGIONS) are a danger to humanity… that is why we are able to find a few good jews, christians, and muslims… people are not inherently good or bad…their philosophy and surroundings make them so…

[QUOTE=TatTvamAsi;62268]Hahaha… Well… Catholic schools do have an excellent reputation for education. That, I give to them. In fact, they have gone around the world and established schools in various countries and brought about a common methodology of education adopted by most cultures around the world today (except the madrassah of course lol).

It is high time wealthy Hindus establish proper gurukulas around the world to spread Dharmic culture and inculcate Hindu values. It is a travesty that most Indians in the US send their kids to christian schools.

LOL… it’s easy… if they ever question Hinduism, you can destroy all three abrahamic cults like this:

1.) You believe in adam/eve fairy tale which supports incest – they had 3 sons. so that makes 4 males and one female… somebody was boinking… how did the rest of humanity come to be?

2.) your god (YAHOO) is supposed to be omnipresent (says in their books) – if so, your god is in hell too… so non-believers don’t have to worry… they will also be by “god’s side” :slight_smile:

3.) your god (YAHOO) is supposed to be omniscient – really? that means, free-will is bullshit because your god already knows what decision you’re going to make before you’re born. so where’s the “free will”? If it is already known… the decision is not independent… if it is… your god is no god at all and is a duffer…

there are many more pitfalls in their cults… many of them cherry-pick what to believe and what to take as historical… however, if you take jesus’ story as allegorical (some liberal christians will do this), then him as a sacrifice for humanity’s ‘sin’ is futile (if there are other paths to heaven)…

In essence, abrahamic religions (EFR - EPIC FAIL RELIGIONS) are a danger to humanity… that is why we are able to find a few good jews, christians, and muslims… people are not inherently good or bad…their philosophy and surroundings make them so…[/QUOTE]

LOL!

Well said.

“It is high time wealthy Hindus establish proper gurukulas around the world to spread Dharmic culture and inculcate Hindu values. It is a travesty that most Indians in the US send their kids to christian schools.”

Homeschooling is an excellent alternative to public and private schools.

Desi-Americans should do that.

[QUOTE=GORI YOGINI;62347]Homeschooling is an excellent alternative to public and private schools.[/QUOTE]

Nah, Hindus are so progressive that we don’t mind mingling with the untouchables (westerners) nowadays. Of course, there are limits but home-schooling is for bible-thumpers. Home-schooling is favored among untouchables (whites) because they think evolution is “false” and global warming is a political agenda rather than scientific fact.

Hindus are in the process of starting parochial schools in America.

In England, there are already 2 state-sponsored HINDU schools! :slight_smile:

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVHhiP9dJJg

[QUOTE=TatTvamAsi;62397]Nah, Hindus are so progressive that we don’t mind mingling with the untouchables (westerners) nowadays. Of course, there are limits but home-schooling is for bible-thumpers. Home-schooling is favored among untouchables (whites) because they think evolution is “false” and global warming is a political agenda rather than scientific fact.

Hindus are in the process of starting parochial schools in America.

In England, there are already 2 state-sponsored HINDU schools! :slight_smile:

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVHhiP9dJJg[/QUOTE]

Let me divine…
You must be Nietzsche’s classmate… right?

Enough of wasting time, stick to your homework now!