while doing a walking meditation today this popped in the mind.
the point of being mindful is to become mindless, the point of being mindless is to become mindfull. Carelessly fluctate between the two and you will be neither
more then thoughts
i am love, i am peace, i am joy
brother neil
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Mindful or mindless is “Being” in which there is no point at all.
Emil
[QUOTE=siva;13733]Mindful or mindless is “Being” in which there is no point at all.
Emil[/QUOTE]
when people talk of no point, to the mind this may bring up the question, no point? so if there is no point, only being, how does this fill the empty heart or searching soul?
we are of the one
brother neil
brother neil,
That’s right. We are of the One.
And in “Being” there is only One. If there were a point to Being, it again becomes divided and temporal. We then are left to “fluctuate” between Being and the point of Being. It’s like saying…“Be It.” In Being, there is no “It,” or point. Only “Being.”
I’m not being vague or tricky here, or even fluffy. I would say to the empty heart or searching soul, eliminate these divisions and you’ll find your heart is full, and your soul, right here, right now. For example, we might change “we are of the one,” to “we are one.” You see? That’s immediately uplifting. What is “of the?” Does that not suggest there might be something outside of One? Outside of Being? There is the empty heart and the searching soul.
Your question is excellent and I appreciate you asking. I hope I’ve made sense.
Peace brother,
Siva
Thanks Siva for your response,
I have had some experiences of what you speak of, however i would like to expand my time in those states. I ask for faith, and in faith all will be well. if your meditating, you can float on by my house and touch my forehead 
thanks
we are one
brother neil
My experience is that we are all part of the One, but we are not the One. The feeling of direct connectedness or oneness has been an expansive experience, but it never lasts long: 3 second, 3 minutes… as long as a 1/4 mile outside of time.
And if there is the oneness, what of I and you and that over there?
[QUOTE=DrPurple;15410]My experience is that we are all part of the One, but we are not the One. The feeling of direct connectedness or oneness has been an expansive experience, but it never lasts long: 3 second, 3 minutes… as long as a 1/4 mile outside of time.
And if there is the oneness, what of I and you and that over there?[/QUOTE]
where is there,
Drop the T from there
drop the W from where
and you will find it is here
you only percieved it as there
‘feeling part of the one’ and ‘being of the one’ or ‘being one’ are (at least) two different things. From my perspective, there are lots of truths that folks don’t feel in every moment . . . doesn’t impinge on the truth of them, though.
Though my perspective, being Catholic, values that there are Two – because Love is Relationship. I’m not sure what to do with ‘we are one’. So far as I can see, One can be happy, but it takes Two to love. And that’s where the good stuff is.
[QUOTE=justwannabe;13705]while doing a walking meditation today this popped in the mind.
the point of being mindful is to become mindless, the point of being mindless is to become mindfull. Carelessly fluctate between the two and you will be neither
more then thoughts
i am love, i am peace, i am joy
brother neil[/QUOTE]
I moved here in the early 1990’s. I heard my first woodpecker in the summer of 2001. The woodpeckers were always in the woods, but my mind was not. I was present with body only.
My mindless state was not limited to the woods - I was mindless in my daily life as well. My Buddhist friends reminded me that mindfulness of the present moment is the foundation for living a life at peace. Peace is not in the past, nor is it in the future.
Peace is always in the present moment. Once I let go of past and future obsessions and became present, all of a sudden I was able to see and hear many new things in my life. And just like the woodpeckers, these gifts were always in my life - I just could not see or hear them.