Need help. Suffering after doing Isha foundation Inner Engineering program


#46

I think yoga can be preventive thing but may not be a curative thing. So basically you did the gym and then yoga every day


#47

Dear Brother, Sorry to know the situvation you went through. Also its nice to see you are relived from pain with Blessings.
Let me clarify you that what AOL and Isha technics are, both are from Patanjali Yoga Sutra. These are technics are to balance the Ida and Pingala and awaken the Shakthi within.

Basically what is more required is Guru Bhakthi and belif in Guru (Any Guru whom one belive in, as Guru is a tatwa, not physical which will change later on).

When we practice certain Kriya and attend certain deeksha session, there are many things that happens very very suttle which modern medicine or gadgets cannot capture.

Basically, all the inner stored garbage are coming up to surface which takes form of physical body and get relived. If Gurus grace and belif is high all these goes without much issues else we go through a lot of metal torture.


#48

Will practice as you said.


#49

Even the name Sambhavi invokes fear in me. Now I am not doing any except, chanting God’s name for some time everyday


#50

That was the exact reply they said when told about my issues. Guru needs to be there to help us when the negativity surfaces, else he should have made the instructors to do that, rather giving a recorded message.


#51

Thanks for your reply.
If so, please follow thought watching and breath watching along with your daily chanting. Slowly you will be out of this mess.


#52

You will be soon out of all that don’t worry. I suggest you if you want to begin the program some Resistance Band Set For Yoga, Pilates, P90X,…etc


#53

Dear Thiru,

Thanks for your reply

I had been suffering the negativity and fear for more than a year. How much time will it take to clear out all the negative thoughts and fear from my mind and become a happy person again? I really am very much affected. I am chanting God’s name al the time and due to that my work and life was not affected much and also due to my wife’s patience and good mind. Please help me out. This is a general question to all in this group.


#54

Surely you will be out of this soon. While you are stepping towards up, negative karma is dragging you down. The best solution should be Om chanting. (AUM). Go for only Pranava mantra japa to get rid of this.


#55

Thanks Thiru.

How can I get rid of this negative karma?
I am chanting AUM, Gayathri and Krishna mantram everyday


#56

Intesnsify your Pranava chanting. It will soon lead you out if all troubles, Have faith. Suggest yourself that you are coming out this by chanting pranava.


#57

Subject ---REQUEST for my fee refund PLUS expenses

Fee paid for hatha yoga -20,000
Isha force sold unwanted bhoota kit--2,000(want to return )
To and fro BUS tickets including taxi (3,000)

TOTAL--25000
I recently registered myself for 21 days Hatha yoga event at ISHA yoga coimbator.fee paid RS 20000 without accommodation +we were forced to buy some bhoot shudhi kit costing 2000 RS .We were even forced to shops overpriced white clothes in isha shops .I was able to smell the fish on first day itself as were forced to chant Sadguru Jaggi Vasudev name instead of God ,in the hall which was accommodating around 700 people (500 were Chinese).In hall also they had placed his huge photo and God shivaji idle was placed behind his photo all most invisible .after meditation when we were in hypnotic suggestive receptive mode We were force to watch Sadguru audio every 20 minutes or so next day itself I started seeing young women with hair started shaving heads .They used to take attendance as in school 100 percent must .We were dehydrated as we were not allowed to use washrooms even after. 5/ 6 hours continues sitting .people had stop consuming water in day .If We complained of back pain due to continuous sitting we were sold chairs from their shop instead.

On around 7th day they performed bhoot shudhi (black magic may be right word) They created right environment to hypnotise is to max on this day .They used smell in hall we were given some small tablets to be swallowed with water and asked to chant his name continuously and in THE BACKGROUND THE recorded 3D surround AFFECT as we hear in theatres type SOUNDS of DRUMS ,FEAR ,Witches ,GHOST ,CRYING PEOPLE ,sounds of people LAUGHS and sounds of people in PAIN were played loud for some time and the students in the class suddenly started mimicking the same in real .people sitting next to me started crying laughing some looking at me angrily as if they are going to kill me .Very scary scene to say Even an healthy person can go mad can result in schizophrenia.sensing the danger to my mental health I and another girl decide to leave the place immediately asap While leaving we asked for refund as we joined the class for hatha yoga and not for this kind of things ,They mocked us and threatened that they have political influence.we left without refund .i am sure if I had stayed there for 21 days I would have turned one of them .As the hypnosis is continuous process of brain washing .using all the senses of body .I know about it as I have read few books and have done certification course in it .


#58

If you love to learn yoga, learn yoga scriptures first to understand the philosophical aspect. For practices, lot you can do without going for these type of yoga institutes. Quality yoga books, yoga websites, DIY videos are available. Don't waste your money and indirectly encourage these type of institutes. Visit my website to learn more about yoga scriptures.


#59

Thanks Thiru,

I am doing Pranav chanting daily


#60

Let us hope for the best.


#61

Everything, including chanting, has a DOSE. Correct dose will produce good effects. OVERDOSE will lead to great harm or even DEATH.


#62

How do we get to know the correct dose?


#63

Your own body and mind will tell you. If you feel joyful during the rest of the day, exhibit tolerance and compassion when faced with difficult people or situations, then you can be sure you have taken the correct dose of divine medicine. If you feel irritable and intolerant and anxious during the rest of the day it is very likely you have done something wrong or gone overboard! Checking the pulse is a good way to understand where you are. If the pulse is around 70 or less you are fine. If it goes above 80, you are in overdose territory. Hold back for 2 to 3 weeks in that case and restart at the lowest dose possible. Good luck!


#64

I came across this site when i was had disc slip after doing yoga practices I always had very athletic and lean body. More into games from childhood. I came across isha yoga watched lot of videos and decided to try it out. but after practicing it for few months i was hit very hard with back pain (disc slip in lower back) which crippled me both physically & mentally for weeks. But somehow i didnot want to give up on yoga since the way it made it feel was unparalleled. I tried to understand what happened to me first went to chiropractor sessions for few days and after few weeks i was able to walk freely. I went for full body tests and realized that i was severely short on both vitamin D & Vitamin B12 which was root cause of the back pain. After taking the supplements regularly all my problems went away and i continued isha yoga practices and infact went on to take more programs from them. I am glad i didnot give up on yoga.
Sorry for this long story but why i wanted to tell you all this story is let you guys know yoga is not source of the problem at least in my case. there are many stories written here about prana, kundalini syndrome & nonsense when no body knows what the hell it is. Today there is science to you tell you things dont go behind this nonsense. you fear things when things go in wrong direction. I had a similar experience with isha teacher when i had the problem with my back. All i was told is to continue my practice. To be fair to them, isha yoga teachers are not doctors or magicians all they know is yoga and how to teach it. Blaming them is not right. Instead take the responsibility and think what went wrong.

Stop the practice if you are not feeling great after doing the practise as simple as that. If it doesnt work for you stop doing it. At the same time it is stupid to stop something if you feel great.


#65

Hello Friends, Since I am new at this forum, I will try to be brief and direct.
I believe you, as most of us that seeks the Yogic world, are looking for mental and Spiritual "release" from Samsara (mundane fears, attainments). Therefore you go to an intensive course that tells you can achine it, if you simply practice the exercises everyday.
As an aspirant, who has fought several depressions crisis and stumbled thru several yogic and non yogic techniques to get the "hang" of life, I can suggest you to quit all those fancy breathing techniques and stay with the basic Hatha-Yoga. Not that Pranayama can make wonders thru people and really help them thru their energetic alignment. But this should be you next step. Your body must be first "clean" and physically fit.
There is no ultimate yogic technique, there is what works and what does not fits to your western constitution (mental and physical). Continue with you regular Gym classes and look forward for a restorative or Basic Hatha-yoga (maybe Iyengar style), in which you spend a good time in each posture breathing deeply. That helps a lot people with energetic issues,
Open your mind to understand why are you getting so uncontrolled, maybe the practice is opening you to face that side you must take care, but take it easy, Talk to people about your anxieties and look for spiritual practices (whatever religion fits to you best). Be an spiritual seeker rather than an object or technique seeker.

Sure you will find what you are looking for. Just keep looking inside....