New age BS and Yoga

Guys, starting this thread to help myself and hopefully other to separate new age BS from yoga practices. This new age bs is so widespread and it is sneaks in to yoga so intricate … that sometime I do this crazy things:)

I go yoga places, workshops, retreats, etc, and some things look too wired tree-hugging - new agey…like…hmmm…sitting holding hands in the circle at the end of the class and “speaking of your heart”, warrior-goddess asana, or meditation ON your neighbor new wife, or dreams explaining, out of budy experience, seeing the future… … i wanted to pick on loving kindness meditation, but this is kindda ok, buddhist stuff…

well, the point is:
[U][I]Lets bring up some of this new agy things up here so they are not to be confused with yoga.[/I][/U]

Go on Youtube and search “Shit Yogis say”. I think that is what you refer to. I LMAO when I saw it because it is so accurate in a lot of places/people.
My teacher always says “no yoga is bad and no yoga is bad”. His English aint great, but I found this statement to be quite profound if you really think about it.

well…thanks for the link, “ladi gaga loves yoga, namaste, did you see his headstand? he is so hot!!” LMAO,

but I also created the thread,cause some “shit yogi says” actually might be right from some yogic or tantric texts…so maybe someone can point to the “right” stuff…and of course recognize evil new agy stuff:)))

Walk in to check out a school and get told…“Please take your shoes off before you enter the sacred space”… in a wispy breathy voice THEY DID NOT HAVE BEFORE!!!

Another thing… Crystals…one more person talks to me about the energy of crystals I’m going to barf

First one must have a sense from where Yoga comes from. It seems as if Vedic writings have been evolving from the beginning of human time advancing towards Vedanta, Absolute Reality, Truth. The Advaita Vedanta which has gained tremendous momentum amongst modern day spiritual seekers (not to be confused with the new agers) is part of it. The Bhagavad Gita deals with Vedanta and is also the first mention of Yoga; the second mention of yoga being the Yoga Sutras. The Sutras are more of an outline of a technological science based on trial and error i.e. comprehensive methodologies and skillful techniques that attempts to clear the way for direct experience (Samadhi) and application of the Advaita Vedanta philosophy (Jana Yoga), Truth can’t be found through a belief system, a scientific approach based on expansion of consciousness is required. Unfortunately most people seem drawn towards the mystical, occult like phenomenon’s that are related to the yogic sciences and offshoots Tantric, Kundalini etc. etc. (enter the new agers).

Thanks to eloquent intellectual explanations/clarifications from Adi Shankara, Siddharameshwar Maharaj, Ramana Maharshi and Nisargadatta Maharaj some type of direction/advice for difficult intellectual topics from beyond the mind, can assist one along the way. They are the first to admit no one can do it for you, they did not call themselves gurus or appoint disciples since that which is beyond the mind cannot be transmitted through limited finite tools such as the a mind or language, Truth lies in the infinite absolute and is self- apparent.

“Truth is not a reward for good behavior, nor a prize for passing some tests. It cannot be brought about. It is the primary, the unborn, the ancient source of all that is. You are eligible because you are. You need not merit truth. It is your own. Just stop running away by running after. Stand still, be quiet."

“All you can teach is understanding. The rest comes on its own.”

“There is nothing to practice. To know yourself, be yourself. To be yourself, stop imagining yourself to be this or that. Just be. Let your true nature emerge. Don’t disturb your mind with seeking.”

“The search for Reality is the most dangerous of all undertakings, for it destroys the world in which you live.”

~ Nisargadatta Maharaj

“Nobody doubts that he exists, though he may doubt the existence of God. If he finds out the truth about himself and discovers his own source, this is all that is required.”

“Realization is our true nature. It is nothing new to be gained. What is new cannot be eternal. Therefore there is no need to be doubting whether we would gain or lose the self.”

“Turn the mind inward and cease thinking of yourself as the body; thereby you will come to know that the self is ever happy. Neither grief nor misery is experienced in this state.”

“You need not aspire for or get any new state. Get rid of your present thoughts, that is all.”

~ Ramana Maharshi

“Reality can be experienced only with the eye of understanding, not just by a scholar. What the moon is like must be seen with one’s own eyes. How can others do it for you?”

“Stop thinking about anything which is not your true self, for that is degrading and productive of pain, and instead think about your true nature, which is bliss itself and productive of liberation.”

“Abandoning the concerns of the world, abandoning concern about the body, and abandoning even concern about scriptures, see to the removal of wrong assumptions about yourself.”

“When by the effect of constant meditation, the purified mind becomes one with God, then samadhi, now freed from images, experiences in itself the state of non-dual bliss.”

~ Adi Shankara

agree, excessive wording can also be attributed to new agy bs:))

" You are eligible because you are. You need not merit truth. It is your own. Just stop running away by running after. Stand still, be quiet."

agree, excessive wording can also be attributed to new agy bs:))

Participation in the spiritual circus is confusing and distracting to the human mind, not nearly as effective or productive as inward attention and experience of true inner nature however some need to muddle through endless words/debates and intellectual gymnastics (Jana Yoga) until realizing unity and perfection of the absolute, we are already perfect, nothing needs to be done. Yoga is a methodology to help with clarity but it’s been manipulated, twisted and tainted for use in the circus.

hah…the good one came to mind…this one always make me freak out : “open your heart center” or “feel how your heart center opens”…make me think of a heart surgery…scalpels…doctors…blood…not yoga at all :slight_smile:

Yeah, I get the impression of open heart surgery too! All the new age BS is good for a laugh.:slight_smile: There’s plenty of it out there too.

Most new age BS in yoga is related to kundalini and chakras. What people don’t realise is that in Tantra, Kundalini is not some energy circuit in the spine, but a godess and that awakening of kundalini doesn’t just happen, but requires grace from the guru and the godess. One of the most often reported new age BS hypochondriac condition among yogis is “kundalini syndrome.” Many people come with healing methods that are centered around aligning the chakras and kundalini, this has absolutely nothing to do with ayurveda or yoga.

I went to a yoga class once where a young female teacher who brought scented candles was substituting the class. After the class she came to me and said, you have a very open heart chakra. Not sure if she was hitting on me.

I think that people that are drawn to yoga are the same who are drawn to many alternative disciplines, and so they create all sorts of hybrids and ties. I don’t really see much wrong with that, although I get what CM is referring to.

This is nothing recent. New agers have been tied to yoga for decades. It’s up to me to do my own practice and not worry about the what the other guy is up to.

CityMonk,
Your words resonate. Watching yoga as practiced around, I too get pangs of anger and disgust. You read something like Toilet yoga, aka postures on the commode and what else would you feel!

Yoga is universal in nature and transcends all the boundaries of gender, faith, color or nationality. But precisely for the same reasons, its ownership gets usurped by anyone with an agenda. Where money-making is so respected that the means are irrelevant what else can happen!

But again on second thughts I wonder if we really need to defend yoga. Something that has survived and flourished over the thousands of years and leaving the shores of India become truly universal must have vitality that needs no outside help. Amongst the true followers there is a growing number of men and women who are realizing the truth the yoga way and through them yoga survives.

There is no short-cut to yoga and nothing is second-hand. Each decade in the past must have produced its own brand of BS for yoga. But in spite of no institution to protect it with an army of lawyers or probably because of that the BS died and yoga survived. I think, we are ok.

[QUOTE=Lavendar;70885]Yeah, I get the impression of open heart surgery too! All the new age BS is good for a laugh.:slight_smile: There’s plenty of it out there too.[/QUOTE]

good idea for a funny book:) hah?

[QUOTE=FlexPenguin;70889]I think that people that are drawn to yoga are the same who are drawn to many alternative disciplines, and so they create all sorts of hybrids and ties. I don’t really see much wrong with that, although I get what CM is referring to.

This is nothing recent. New agers have been tied to yoga for decades. It’s up to me to do my own practice and not worry about the what the other guy is up to.[/QUOTE]

haha:)) im fine with it too:))
you are right though…and im fine with the Syncretism as well…i guess it is natural process in so to say “evolution” or (de-evolution:D) of yoga