Ordering Poses

Okay, so in another thread I was talking about how I’m struggling with the bow pose. InnerAthlete pointed out that this pose requires flexibility of certain muscle groups before attempting, so now I’m starting to realize that you can’t just do any pose at any time, you need to put them in a certain order so that pose 1 prepares you for pose 2, and so on.

Where can I find more information on how to sequence poses?

A 2,000-hour two-year teacher training.

You can do any pose you’d like, any time you’d like. For the most part it is “okay”. And by “okay” I mean you’ve not violated a rule AND you are a sentient being with free will. I do not mean the action is without consequence. Sometimes that consequence is warm and fuzzy while other times it is not :slight_smile:

Not all classes or approaches embrace the concept we’re discussing. Some styles, some classes, some teachers, teach the same thing over and over again. The sequence is fixed and one hopes it has been mindfully assembled for whatever the intentions are of that practice and the persons doing it.

However when we are talking about a student that is not supple or one that is not strong AND such a student wants to do a pose which requires flexibility of strength, then to do so there must be prerequisites. Otherwise forcing is often the result.

Two options, aside from a teacher training and years of study. You can take classes or privates at a place and in such a way as to develop a sequence which works for where you are now. Or you can peruse through books like “Yoga: The Path to Holistic Health” by Iyengar and hope you don’t go afoul of the boundaries.

sequence poses ? thats not yoga… all stuff caled : vyniasa , yevengar and other fake methods are just ‘fitness exercise’ borned with the influence of south india ‘malakumb’ circenses show off and some militar exercises… in traditional hatha yoga we call those ‘poses’ as SUKSHMA VYAYAMA thats exercise poses are to lengthen the body and preparation to hatha yoga asanas ( that is more inner atitude meditation to work with mind than just ‘body exercise’ ) research about what im saying, thats the truth , original and traditional way of yogi

[QUOTE=InnerAthlete;79619]A 2,000-hour two-year teacher training.

You can do any pose you’d like, any time you’d like. For the most part it is “okay”. And by “okay” I mean you’ve not violated a rule AND you are a sentient being with free will. I do not mean the action is without consequence. Sometimes that consequence is warm and fuzzy while other times it is not :slight_smile:

Not all classes or approaches embrace the concept we’re discussing. Some styles, some classes, some teachers, teach the same thing over and over again. The sequence is fixed and one hopes it has been mindfully assembled for whatever the intentions are of that practice and the persons doing it.

However when we are talking about a student that is not supple or one that is not strong AND such a student wants to do a pose which requires flexibility of strength, then to do so there must be prerequisites. Otherwise forcing is often the result.

Two options, aside from a teacher training and years of study. You can take classes or privates at a place and in such a way as to develop a sequence which works for where you are now. Or you can peruse through books like “Yoga: The Path to Holistic Health” by Iyengar and hope you don’t go afoul of the boundaries.[/QUOTE]

I don’t know that I want to undertake a 2,000 hour, 2 year teacher training course at the moment, so I suppose I will choose option one and Google “yoga classes + my city”. :wink:

Thank you for the feedback. :slight_smile:

Or you could spend a couple hours putting the flows together. It’s not difficult.

Dave is quite right.

It is not [I]difficult[/I] to bolt together an automobile engine either. However doing it so that the engine runs properly, efficiently, and safely is another matter altogether.

It is perfectly “okay” to opt-out of being taught, of receiving the teachings (transmission, no pun intended) directly from the teacher and his/her lineage, however do remember this apogee of choice as you may come to a crossroad where it is all to easy to blame yoga for your results.

The Internet is littered with stories of “help me I’ve been doing this thing and now I’m _____” and our deeper respect for the practice often comes after, not before it is needed:-)

When I come to the mat, I have to build an automobile engine, I would never come to my mat. I have a 75 min class. Are you suggesting that we should teach all 8 limbs (or build an engine) in 75 or 90 min Yoga class ? I ask my students to focus on their breath, throughout, that focus while putting your body into positions and flows, while calm in a difficult moment is yoga. Or a little piece of yoga, it’s practice after all.

The topic was sequencing Dave. The OP is a student. You are a teacher. A teacher spends time (hopefully years) learning the physiology and psychology of the poses so that they may be imparted safely, effectively, and soundly to students.

The point to the OP is that the assembly of these physiological and psychological pieces is a teaching skill. Ergo we, as students learn sequencing from our teacher(s) when they have done “the work” before us in order to be able to impart it.

When [U]you[/U] “come to the mat” hopefully you do so having been well taught. Your ability to build the “vehicle” or vessel (which incidentally contains the soul) is already present due to your ongoing training, your practice, and your intention.

As for what one teaches, such a thing is for each teacher to determine for themselves. As I look around the world of Yoga the pertinent question for me isn’t whether “we should be teaching all 8 limbs in a 90 minute class” (though “yes” is my inclination). Instead the question for me is “shouldn’t we be teaching more than some poses when we opt to label ourselves as teachers of Yoga?”.

The practice IS a practice and the teachings take time, discipline, and commitment. And this is my point. While a gander at this sequence or that sequence is more than nothing, it is not much more without some significant training, practice, and wisdom.

[QUOTE=yoga4Astrongback;79695]I don’t know that I want to undertake a 2,000 hour, 2 year teacher training course at the moment, so I suppose I will choose option one and Google “yoga classes + my city”. :wink:

Thank you for the feedback. :)[/QUOTE]

… Just don’t google yoga classes + my clitty, totally different outcome I expect! :slight_smile: sorry, couldn’t resist!