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#61

[QUOTE=kareng;47776][QUOTE=Surya Deva;47771]Nope, it is not experience, but direct experience born out imeditative perception which is mentioned in Hindu, Buddhist and Sikh scripture. And even then this evidence is only convincing to be the person who is directly experiencing it, not to somebody who is not.

The proof that the pudding is tasty is only knowable to the taster.[/QUOT

Well of course its my experience that you cant see, or taste…thats obvious…my point is it is a vital ingredient in spiritual progression that everyone is able to experience…now how much clearer can I make it…it isnt what you say and you are wrong…here I am telling you that you are completely utterly wrong, wrong wrong…

Now the subject is closed until you’ve done some homework on it…[/QUOTE]Could you please be specific about where SD is wrong in this argumentation?

#62

I don’t need to do any homework at all. You are the one making the claims, thus it is your burden of proof new-ager :wink:

#63

No, its down to you to educate yourself before dismissing someone otherwise you enter the ignorant arena…do so if you wish to, I cant stop you…if you wish to remain ignorant to this fact, well I just cant help that and I promise to take pity on you…x

#64

[QUOTE=kareng;47782]No, its down to you to educate yourself before dismissing someone otherwise you enter the ignorant arena…do so if you wish to, I cant stop you…if you wish to remain ignorant to this fact, well I just cant help that and I promise to take pity on you…x[/QUOTE]Are you high tonight Kareng?

#65

Yes, I will certainly tolerate someone who goes around bashing idols because of his individual experience with Christian teachings. Even the Muslim who jumps for joy when a Hindu temple is destroyed or when a Hindu is brutally murdered, due to his individual experience with the Quran, Allah, and Islam in general. You have opened my eyes Kareng. I should tolerate intolerance/ignorance wherever I see it, especially when it comes from the individual’s experience. Your words are nectar.

#66

[QUOTE=theseeker;47784]Are you high tonight Kareng?[/QUOTE]

On her Christianized/Western biases, yes. Or maybe her uncontrolled lust.

#67

the seeker…yes, we are talking about Ishvara…I have experienced Ishvara and SD doesn’t understand how Ishvara can be found, how Ishvara presents itself, how Isvara directs you, how Ishvara loves to sunbathe, how Ishvara projects itself…,…to sum up, he knows zilch about Ishvara…My account is real and he cant believe it, so he goes on about proof, scientific evidence at every chance without doing any research, whatsoever!..,.,.,the proof I have that he hasn’t done any research on it since we last spoke about it, …the proof is he still doesn’t know!..lol

#68

[QUOTE=theseeker;47784]Are you high tonight Kareng?[/QUOTE]

Ha what do you mean by high? crikey No…sorry I bet my sense of humour is looking weird…SD knows me a little…I hope!

#69

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;47787]On her Christianized/Western biases, yes. Or maybe her uncontrolled lust.[/QUOTE]

Did you pass you Chemistry exam?

#70

[QUOTE=kareng;47792]Did you pass you Chemistry exam?[/QUOTE]

I haven’t got my scores back but I am certain that I did well. On the other hand, I did get my grades on the AP Statistics and AP Calculus exams and they were both 100’s. Thanks for inquiring about my academic life, but I assure you it is unnecessary since I always make A’s.

It is a good feeling to be educated, and most importantly, a [B]critical thinker[/B] who doesn’t accept prevalent societal dogma blindly. Much less superficial than the feeling you get from drugs.

#71

[QUOTE=kareng;47789] I have experienced Ishvara and SD doesn’t understand how Ishvara can be found, how Ishvara presents itself, how Isvara directs you, how Ishvara loves to sunbathe, how Ishvara projects itself…,…to sum up, he knows zilch about Ishvara…[/QUOTE]

:lol:

I want what you’re having Karen!

#72

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;47796]I haven’t got my scores back but I am certain that I did well. On the other hand, I did get my grades on the AP Statistics and AP Calculus exams and they were both 100’s. Thanks for inquiring about my academic life, but I assure you it is unnecessary since I always make A’s.

It is a good feeling to be educated, and most importantly, a [B]critical thinker[/B] who doesn’t accept prevalent societal dogma blindly. Much less of superficial than the feeling you get from drugs.[/QUOTE]

So hang on…I’m a racist, a lustful woman, a drug taker, a Christian Hindu hating New Ager …have I missed anything out? there must be more…

#73

I want what you’re having Karen![/QUOTE]

really…I’m just keeping up with you all…well you have covered all lines of attack, stooping to drugs and drink accusations, anything else?

#74

[QUOTE=Nietzsche;47796]I haven’t got my scores back but I am certain that I did well. On the other hand, I did get my grades on the AP Statistics and AP Calculus exams and they were both 100’s. Thanks for inquiring about my academic life, but I assure you it is unnecessary since I always make A’s.

It is a good feeling to be educated, and most importantly, a [B]critical thinker[/B] who doesn’t accept prevalent societal dogma blindly. Much less superficial than the feeling you get from drugs.[/QUOTE]

Let me modify the last set of sentences. “It is a good feeling, a feeling much less superficial than that which you derive from using drugs, to be educated, and most importantly a critical thinker who doesn’t accept prevalent societal dogma blindly.”

There…modifying phrases are so annoying to work with…

#75

Come now, those who do drugs do so out of personal choice and experience. Hence, it is valid. Nothing to be ashamed of!

Don’t act so shocked. All of you have accused us of being racists (including anti-Semites), have posted links to anti-Hindu propaganda sites, and engage in trolling all the time (including posting material degrading our culture, skin color, and etc). And here you are, acting hurt over mere banter. I would wager that all of you wish for us to die horrible deaths or be murdered. SD and I, on the other hand, hope the best of things for you all, even if we disagree with your views. Such is the nature of things in the Kali Yuga. We Hindus tolerated the Muslims. They slaughtered us. We Hindus tried to tolerate the Christians. They exploited us. We try speaking out against oppression and ignorance; we are scorned and hated.

#76

I have nothing against anyone doing their own thing and if drugs is your thing then you go for it…its perfectly alright to defend it, if it makes you happy Nietzsche

#77

Karen, excuse the pun about drugs, but the things you say do not sound like they are coming from a sane person. “how ishvara sunbathes” You either are high on something or there is something very wrong…

#78

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;47808]Karen, excuse the pun about drugs, but the things you say do not sound like they are coming from a sane person. “how ishvara sunbathes” You either are high on something or there is something very wrong…[/QUOTE]

Sorry Surya, you have not experienced this but I have…when Ishvara is presenting in human form and is active at the third eye chakra, which is permanantely open… Ishvara responds to the sun and makes a point of coming forward, growing larger from the brow area raising its head to the sun…quite simoly, .Ishvara loves to sunbathe, absorb, enjoy, the sun…this is a fact I noted as it was happening and it happened on numerous occasions…

There were no drugs, alcohol or madness involved in this…I’m giving you a real account, not read from a book or relayed by someone but real information as to what happens when Ishvara is presenting in human form, active in open Ajna …

And for the record…I haven’t taken offense at anyones comments on this thread…you don’t bother me…I am trying to fill you in on a real account and it makes no difference to me if you choose to mock me because I know what I know and you don’t…you don’t actually practice, you read…I practice…thats the difference between us…

I dont drink alcohol, take drugs, engage in sexual activities, hate people, none of these things will get you anywhere…do you imagine that Ishvara wants an old drunk and drug taking looney to walk with?.

Now I’ve mentioned before that you need to find a master to ask…

#79

Your personal experiences are only convincing to you Kareng, not me. End off.

#80

[QUOTE=Surya Deva;47838]Your personal experiences are only convincing to you Kareng, not me. End off.[/QUOTE]

Well its easily solved…just find a Master and ask them…but then you would have to admit to being wrong which may well kill you…could this be why you wont do it…never mind…one day when you actually start practicing properly, you may experience what I have and others and then you will remember my words…as stated before SD…

I reckon I’;m more a Hindu than you are…than all of you are on this thread…a new ager knowing more…well I say, well…who would have thought it possible…,…