Post by: ozone - Thread: Pralaya Yoga & Acro Yoga videos

Staff Reported Posts
#1

Nichole has reported a post.

Reason:

ozone was a bit too obvious about gaining his minimum posts to link to his videos.

Post: Pralaya Yoga & Acro Yoga videos
Forum: General Yoga Discussion
Assigned Moderators: N/A

Posted by: ozone
Original Content:

I been filming some of my friends and teachers for a little while and I wanted to share the videos with you all.

Here is my youtube channel-
http://www.youtube.com/user/ozoneification

And here are a couple direct links to some of the newer videos:

Pralaya Yoga-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0-MqJzheM0

Acro Yoga-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy443eKSB6c

New videos are coming soon and often, please give feed back if you can.

Namaste,

#2

what should we do about people who are posting one-liners as a minimum to link?
to me, they are spammers, but i would rather encourage them to stay on and not spam than to ban them out right. the thing is, i have yet to see this work with any previously spammy member.

#3

I think we need to review the posts. If they look like they might be viable then let them stay. If not, delete as spam and ban the user IMO.

#4

viable posts stay. not-so-much posts delete.
member staying, we play by ear? do you want to send a pm to rehab?

alix, you handled that one spammer really well by removing the link, banning the member and keeping the post…:slight_smile: i can’t remember the thread for some reason though…

#5

Neither can I! LOL. Was it one of the yogasupplies things in freeing the breath?

OK, my suggestion is:

Check the posts for viability - if all are crap then delete as spam and ban.
If some are valid then soft delete the garbage and don’t ban, rather hit the infraction link (red and yellow flags next to report post) and choose to send a “Warning”. In that warning you can be gentle, firm whatever is required and let the person know that they are only getting a warning this time but further spammy actions will get either more infraction points or an outright ban.

The infraction system can do most of the work for us. All we would need to do is hit the button and it is automatically configured to ban after a certain number of points is reached.

Does that sound logical Nichole?

With this guy I am not sure if he is on the level or not yet. I think I’d go the warning route and see what he does.

#6

I have to run. Please see his post and mine in this thread. I’ll come check on things when I’m done my driving around. Sorry to run away!

#7

sorry i was eating breakfast when he posted. i was coming back to send him a pm, but he was faster. thanks for speaking to his concern.

i think you handled the situation, so i am just going to leave unless if continues to post his video links or sends me a pm.

edit i am a deadline right now for an article and i have to sideline my participation on this for a few days. i put ozone on moderation until i can get to it.

that is unless you want to alix? i am sorry, i am just swamped and i shouldn’t even have logged on this weekend.

#8

OK, so I agree that we get to decide what a person’s interaction with our forum is, and ozone isn’t contributing enough to justify asking us to beef up the hits on his youtube channel. And I get the feeling he’s a lululaimon store employee, looking at the vids on his channel.
I think we just need to be more proactive about inviting folks to participate and share, maybe increase the minimum character count for a post. From his perspective, things were going along swimmingly until he shared the best stuff he had.

#9

ozone profile and user notes.

#10

thank you alix and techne. alix, 2x thanks on this one.

i this this guy is offering a lot lame ducks and he was indeed doing his bare minimum to post his links to his videos.

alix, you don’t need to extend further messages to him at this point, imo.

#11

OK – big assumption check time –
why do we think that him posting his links is more a benefit to him (taking from the forums) than it is to us (offering to the forums?)

#12

I haven’t watched his videos yet, I’m on and off a bunch today. I was just following up from Nichole’s piece.

My feeling is that he has told us he makes his living at making yoga videos (Whats your job thread) so posting links on your 16th post is a bit suspicious. For me thats not the bigger issue though. The bigger issue IMO is that I answered his question politely and asked him to PM and instead he posted 3 times a snot about having his links pulled. I would have reviewed his links and just put them back up if it weren’t for that.

Now that he is on moderation we need to see how he behaves. Thats just MHO though.

#13

those are my issues too.

perhaps he is offended that we noticed his posting to be what it is–growing viewers for his videos.

ozone, this ain’t our first rodeo.

#14

ozone checked in with me:

Hi, ozone. Thank you for checking in.
The combination of your reply to the ‘what is your job’ thread, and the fact that you linked to your youtube channel in the very first post in which you could post a link – after a series of quite brief replies – was a warning light for us on the moderation team. It is our intent to preserve the forums from advertising, and (coincidentally) this has been more difficult recently.
We do not have a bias against acro yoga – feel free to use the search function to confirm this. The site owner, David, is a practitioner of acro.
It is my hope that you will let us get to know you better by participating on the forums, that you will bear the period of moderation, and that we will all together grow in yoga.
If you would like to reply with some specifics to give us better context, I will certainly present those to the moderation team.

Techne

#15

Did I only think I explained to him? I’m pretty sure I said nearly the same thing you did Techne. Did I dream that? I’m not sure what other explanation I can offer.

Nichole, I do feel a bit at sea as I was sending things after you had taken the actions. While I certainly don’t mind doing that, I think its important for the person who took the action to be the one to PM the user. I want to stress I don’t MIND doing this I just feel a bit detached from it as it was not my decision or action and explaining someone else’s action can be difficult. I think this user senses my detachment. Does that make any sense, I’m still a bit foggy as I just got up.

#16

it makes perfect sense and thank you, alix, you did do a good job :slight_smile:

i did take action, i removed his videos, reported the post and started a discussion. i then went to eat a saturday morning breakfast with my husband–i was away just a few (1.5-2) hours. ozone posted and you replied, before i logged back on to wrap it up. i am sorry that my time away from the computer was enough for this progression to take place. i know that is not what you are asking for, alix, but it did happen because i am logged off.

ozone, has a interesting take on events and his posts. for example, he posts about himself being moderated and acro yoga, but he takes away that it is acro yoga that we have a problem with. most of his messaging is similar to this; he does not hear what he does not want to hear. and he feels very entitled to post as he pleases here.

he posts his minimum limit of posts through mostly 1 liners, then directs our members to his off-sight videos, and then goes directly to the “linking rules thread” to complain and play the rules.

the pointless content of many of his thread that are still up, but some have been removed, like they one where he suggests a member may have bone cancer with a one-lined response and then his whining about his video links.

since you both have been pm’ing or posting on the boards with him while i am logged off, i am not sure what would be useful. i was going to write to firmly that this is a free forum, and you are a guest here, please behave as such or please find a forum where it is acceptable for you to post anything you’d like as well as send members off our forum and onto your own online investment. if you post about your moderation on the boards they will be deleted, if you…etc. there are many forums online, perhaps we are not the one for you, but you are welcome to continue to read here and post with approval.

#17

Nichole, when we take any action I think we should immediately PM the poster what has been done and why. That would forestall any of that other stuff occurring after we sign off or the need for “mop up” after the fact. As a general rule of thumb for all of us if you don’t have time to do everything then it would likely be best to leave it for a bit unless it is something horrendous.

Had this been solely my call I would likely have handled things differently and would have felt better able to explain myself. Since I was trying to explain your actions I think things were a bit muddled.

I don’t think there is any need for further communication with him from any of us. I’m sorry if I gave the impression you needed to do anything, that wasn’t my intent. I’m still trying to get the hang of how you are doing things now as its not quite what I am accustomed to.

I know that members (no matter who they are) get upset when their posts are moderated in any fashion and they don’t have an explanation for why it has happened. I know as well that you have been moving away from PMing a bit over here, but its my feeling that a little PM can go a long way toward avoiding the need for MORE moderation.

#18

i totally get what you are saying. thank you very much it. your experience as a moderator and admin go way beyond this forum and i over the moon in appreciation of that :slight_smile:

i agree that [B]immediate [/B]pm’ing is proactive, kind and the right way to operate. in the future, i will leave spam up on the boards if i don’t have the time to immediately write a pm.

in the future, i would like to ask that we consider some other options, so that if you are feeling like you must explain my actions, you have some other options than to actually do that :). in this situation, some other options were to 1) leave it until i could address his post myself, or if you felt this was urgent to respond to 2)pm him to tell him that i would be pm’ing him myself within the day and for him just to hold tight.

like said, i am sorry that this member is upset. my bad.

i will mend my ways.

#19

LOL! Nichole you make me laugh. I thought you had ASKED me to speak to him so…my bad.

I know I sound like a broken record but when you are short on time the Report Post function is a real help. We all have different schedules (and time zones) so if you need to dash, hit the Report Post and then let another member of the team handle it. Whoever picks up the ball just leave a note saying that you’ve dealt with it and how. If no one is comfortable with dealing with it, likely it can be left for later.

We are a team and I think we are grooving pretty well. The communication between us is key though, so I certainly appreciate that we are all open to that. Thanks you two.

#20

Yep, no worries.
And yeah, Alix, I did pretty much say just what you did. He just needed to hear it from one other person.
Really, I still have the impression that he was trying to share with us when he posted his links. And please, among us, what is the difference between him posting links to a youtube channel and Nichole or Gordon having links to their businesses in their signature? Certainly there’s a difference in these folks’ level of contribution to the forum community, but I’d be a lot more comfortable with situations like these if we could quantify that into a more sound policy than “15 posts; 25 posts”. What we have right now is a choice between accepting links like what ozone placed and deleting one-liner posts immediately so that members who do not contribute as profoundly as we’d like never make it to the 15 posts.