Problem with eating

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#1

Hello everyone

I have a problem.

I do yoga but whenever i eat, even the smallest thing, i lose myself, my center , and then i have to do something yogi, even the smallest thing, to regain my good state of mind.

I am working around people who do not practice yoga.

Is this situation familiar to anyone here ?

I don’t want to lose my job.i don’t want to starve myself.i want to eat something small and not to frik out.

What is wrong with me ?
or nothing is wrong.
i feel that even the smallest asana is changing me.i am very sensitive.

What to do ?

What do you say ?

#2

Namaste Milrod,
Do you suffer or have you suffered from an eating disorder? I dont think there is anything wrong with you. There is nothing “wrong” with any of us. Some of us just have some issues to work through and of course yoga tends to bring our awareness to those issues. Are you new to yoga?

Bless

#3

hi

i am not new but i practice only 3 or 4 asana in the morning.maybe i have to do more.

#4

…and i always finish the practice lying down.

#5

thank you for the help

i remembered that when i was only a few weeks old, i did an operation in the hospital because the food couldn’t reach my stomach.the way to the stomach was blocked and the doctors opened the way.

maybe this fact is connect to my problem.maybe not.

anyway i reduce the amount of food and i eat simple things.

i hope i will find the way to live in peace with yoga and eating.

thank you

#6

Boker Tov,

Milrod could you clarify whether this sense of being taken away from “center” occurs for you only at work or does it happen no matter where you are?

Also, it would be helpful to know what you are eating and what sort of practice you have been doing. Some simply do not consider the light brought into the body by this food or that - or the absence of light.

Gordon

#7

hello gordon

it occurs wherever i am.

since i wrote here i change my eating.i eat very little and i can work and feel good and inside my yoga.after i take a byte from a vegy or fruit or a nut, i go down, then up and i am back again.

i practice tree, dog and lying down like a dad person.i know more from shadow yoga that i learned in the past but for now i don’t use it .

and : “Some simply do not consider the light brought into the body by this food or that - or the absence of light.” can you explain these wards so i can understand because i didn’t.

i think now i am better with my problem.i think.i test every moment to see what is going on with me and for now i am pleased.

thank you for your concern.

milrod

#8

Hello Milrod,

This sensitivity ‘issue’ is something many encounter on the way. Also the sense of ‘being centered’ versus ‘not being centered,’ or often feelings/ideas arise that say: “I have lost connection with myself.” etc.

This is a natural distinction to experience when one starts to focus more consciously on being centered, present, connected, etc. But I have a suggestion for you:

Whatever it is you do or however you feel, centered or not, you are always connected to who you are, in fact: you are always what you are. How can you ever not be what you are? I suggest you to see, next time when the idea arises that you are ‘not centered’ or that you ‘lost yourself in food’, that these ideas and feelings are appearances arising within your perception, within your evenly present/connected awareness.

Doing so repeatedly will make you experientially confident in the fact that you are always present. All that arises, all sorts of ideas and sensations about yourself, are just ideas and sensations arising [I]in[/I] you. Awareness, or You, includes everything and excludes nothing by nature. Every time you notice that you feel ‘not centered’ simply confirms the fact that you are comlpetely present as the changeless knower, how else could you notice the change from being centered to not being centered? Rest as that which knows all states of mind and all changes between them. Recognize that that changeless knower is always present reagrdless of your ideas or sensations.

So if you wish for true stability, try not to always ‘feel’ stable or experience centeredness, instead, try to see how you are always already centered/stable/yourself. You can never leave the space that you. All that exists, including both the sense of ‘being centered’ and the sense of ‘not being centered,’ arises within this already present space which remains unaffected by all senses. All appears within perfect stability, including the sensation of instability.

This true stability is effortlessly present at all times.

Love,
Bentinho.

#9

hi

i will think about what you wrote and i think that you are talking about Buddha and not about yoga.

#10

Hi milrod,

I am talking about you and me.

Love.

#11

hi

and i am talking about a way of life that include me , the yoga and you.

love.

#12

Why do I feel with all that love around that the baby is thrown out togheter with the bathing water ?

Heck, one form of love and rescpet is to say what you think, honestly. I just feel gratuitious to use the word “love” all the time. It is already over and misused. Give love a chance, and leave it alone. :slight_smile:

Ok, use the word, just don’t expect me to do it. I am a grumpy old bastard, who hardly can change his habits.

#13

It’s misused only when used as a means to an end. When recognized as being here always naturally, with or without thoughts, as the basis of all, one can express it without limits and it would be authentic everytime.

You’re not grumpy, just an old bastard :).

Much of Love.

#14

Hi Milord,

I had some problems with stomach for several years and I remember how weird was effect of this pain on my mind. It could make me depressed (giving feeling similar to caused by Dementors in Harry Potter – that nothing happy will happen to me ever again) or elated after the pain (that I’m protected and everything will be ok). Not like with other source of pain which didn’t significantly change my state of my mind (e.g. muscles, teeth). I read later that it may be related to rich innervation of the gastric system (it has even name: enteric nervous system). It’s even called “second brain”. So if its disturbed, central nervous system is also affected (and vice versa).

Also, in text you wrote I noticed that you jump from one extreme to the other, which may mean that your ego (in a positive sense) is very sensitive and not stable enough. Maybe it’s also reason why it’s so influenced by disturbance coming from “second brain” activity…

I think you should check your gastric function with a doctor. It may be simple problem but causing lot of problem because of your body sensitivity (e.g. high acidity which in fact can kick in when you eat something). Also, I think it would be good if you would “ground” yourself more – e.g. doing things that make you feel happy and strong.

Kind Regards,
Pawel

#15

thanks

i will look at it

#16

pawel

hi.can you tell me what did you do to check this problem and what was the treatment.

thanks
milrod

#17

[QUOTE=milrod;26652]pawel

hi.can you tell me what did you do to check this problem and what was the treatment.

thanks
milrod[/QUOTE]

Hi Milord,
In my case treatment was simple - short run of medicine for lowering stomach acidity and in general avoidance of stress. After few weeks all this years long problem was gone. Sometimes instead of “holistic medicine” few tablets may solve the problem :wink:
Good luck
Pawel

#18

Stress actually makes the stomach less acidic. It has to do with the nervous system going into a sympathetic mode (fight or flight) which “turns off” digestion for the purpose of survival.

The stomach is one of only two parts of the body that should be acidic. The rest should be alkaline.

#19

[QUOTE=InnerAthlete;26879]Stress actually makes the stomach less acidic. It has to do with the nervous system going into a sympathetic mode (fight or flight) which “turns off” digestion for the purpose of survival.

The stomach is one of only two parts of the body that should be acidic. The rest should be alkaline.[/QUOTE]

I’m not sure, but I think this lowering of the stomach acidity by stress you mention is an acute response. And in case of chronic stress its different - there is overcompensation leading to increased acidity. At least in my case stress did cause an increase of acidity (because pain was related to stress level and it was responsive to simple “anti-acidity” medicine).

#20

Chronic stress is a by-product. If the nervous system is in such a state, treating the stomach would be overlooking the bigger picture.

If meds worked for you that is wonderful and I’d not dispute it - for you.
And I do realize there are certain lobbies which would have us believe a pill that reduces acidity in the stomach is “good”.

However, most stomach issues are misperceived as being an overly acidic state when, in fact, the dysfunction is too much alkalinity. An acidic stomach is absolutely essential for healthy digestive process.